What bits did you not understand? (Spoilers for all seasons)

IvaBigWun

The Cousins are first seen in the opening scene of Season 3 as they arrive in an expensive Mercedes at a small village in the Mexican desert where they find men and women crawling on their bellies up a dusty, adobe-lined desert road. The Cousins join them, leading up to a path toward a candlelit shrine to Santa Muerte. The two men rise to their feet. One makes an offering; the other pins something to the shrine: a sketch of "Heisenberg"

Why were "men and women crawling on their bellies up a dusty, adobe-lined desert road" towards a pic of Heisenberg?

The only thing that makes sense is they saw him as some kind of a myth or legend they had to worship.

Anyone?

RubyRoss

I can't remember now but I thought Hector Salamanca explained at some point why they do that before they assassinate somehow.

RubyRoss

It was something like the saint would assist them in their task but they had to prove themselves worthy by crawling and giving gifts - in others words, the difficulty of it proved that they were serious. Some character explained that but I can't remember when.

ballsymchugh

that must be why the two lads failed, they drove past all the locals crawling to the top of the queue and only crawled a little bit themselves!

the_monkey

They weren't all crawling toward the Walter White photo, just their own - whatever they needed doing - the WW photo was just for the cartel twins.

IvaBigWun

RubyRoss wrote: »

It was something like the saint would assist them in their task but they had to prove themselves worthy by crawling and giving gifts - in others words, the difficulty of it proved that they were serious. Some character explained that but I can't remember when.

Eh?

So they were all crawling towards different "saints"?

tim3000

What happened with Jesse and the ricin and him beating up Saul? They lost me there I thought that Walt swapped it out for salt

ballsymchugh

no, they were all crawling towards the same saint, but each one had their own reason for crawling. the brothers were asking for help with killing walter white.

think the wailing wall in jerusalem. everyone who prays there puts a request/hope on a bit of paper and sticks it in the cracks of the wall looking for divine intervention. all praying to the same thing but different requests.

jaykhunter

tim3000 wrote: »

What happened with Jesse and the ricin and him beating up Saul? They lost me there I thought that Walt swapped it out for salt

When Jesse was about to leave, he copped Hewell must've taken his weed when he bumped into him/patted him down, he made the connection that the Hewell bump also happened seasons ago when he lost the ricin, Fring wasnt a factor at the time so it must've been Walt to put Hewell up to it : Walt took the ricin, Walt poisoned Brock.

It's a bit of a leap but he knows Walt is full of **** so he beats it out of Saul.

y0ssar1an22

2 questions from finale...

1. what is the story with

the watch Walt puts on top of petrol pump?

2. what is the story with

Jesse the carpenter scene?

Crucifix

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

2 questions from finale...

2. what is the story with

Jesse the carpenter scene?

From an earlier episode:

Group Leader: Jesse, last time, you seemed down about your job at the Laundromat. Let me ask something, if you had the chance to do anything you wanted, what would you do?

Jesse Pinkman: Make more green, man. A lot more.

Group Leader: Forget about money. Assume you have all you want.

Jesse Pinkman: I don't know. I guess I would make something.

Group Leader: Like what?

Jesse Pinkman: I don't know if it even matters, but... work with my hands, I guess.

Group Leader: Building things, like carpentry or bricklaying or something?

Jesse Pinkman: I took this vo-tech class in high school, woodworking. I took a lot of vo-tech classes, because it was just big jerk-off, but this one time I had this teacher by the name of... Mr... Mr. Pike. I guess he was like a Marine or something before he got old. He was hard hearing. My project for his class was to make this wooden box. You know, like a small, just like a... like a box, you know, to put stuff in. So I wanted to get the thing done as fast as possible. I figured I could cut classes for the rest of the semester and he couldn't flunk me as long as I, you know, made the thing. So I finished it in a couple days. And it looked pretty lame, but it worked. You know, for putting in or whatnot. So when I showed it to Mr. Pike for my grade, he looked at it and said: "Is that the best you can do?" At first I thought to myself "Hell yeah, bitch. Now give me a D and shut up so I can go blaze one with my boys." I don't know. Maybe it was the way he said it, but... it was like he wasn't exactly saying it sucked. He was just asking me honestly, "Is that all you got?" And for some reason, I thought to myself: "Yeah, man, I can do better." So I started from scratch. I made another, then another. And by the end of the semester, by like box number five, I had built this thing. You should have seen it. It was insane. I mean, I built it out of Peruvian walnut with inlaid zebrawood. It was fitted with pegs, no screws. I sanded it for days, until it was smooth as glass. Then I rubbed all the wood with tung oil so it was rich and dark. It even smelled good. You know, you put nose in it and breathed in, it was... it was perfect.

Holsten

I don't understand how the world got to know that Walter was Heisenberg.

How come his face was on the tv and in newspapers etc?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

marie and skylar told the police....

bur

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

2 questions from finale...

1. what is the story with

the watch Walt puts on top of petrol pump?

That was actually a continuity error that they had to fix.

Holsten

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

marie and skylar told the police....

Yeah with zero evidence? The DEA had pretty much NOTHING on Walt but accusations from Marie and Skylar.

bur

Crucifix wrote: »

From an earlier episode:

Group Leader: Jesse, last time, you seemed down about your job at the Laundromat. Let me ask something, if you had the chance to do anything you wanted, what would you do?

Jesse Pinkman: Make more green, man. A lot more.

Group Leader: Forget about money. Assume you have all you want.

Jesse Pinkman: I don't know. I guess I would make something.

Group Leader: Like what?

Jesse Pinkman: I don't know if it even matters, but... work with my hands, I guess.

Group Leader: Building things, like carpentry or bricklaying or something?

Jesse Pinkman: I took this vo-tech class in high school, woodworking. I took a lot of vo-tech classes, because it was just big jerk-off, but this one time I had this teacher by the name of... Mr... Mr. Pike. I guess he was like a Marine or something before he got old. He was hard hearing. My project for his class was to make this wooden box. You know, like a small, just like a... like a box, you know, to put stuff in. So I wanted to get the thing done as fast as possible. I figured I could cut classes for the rest of the semester and he couldn't flunk me as long as I, you know, made the thing. So I finished it in a couple days. And it looked pretty lame, but it worked. You know, for putting in or whatnot. So when I showed it to Mr. Pike for my grade, he looked at it and said: "Is that the best you can do?" At first I thought to myself "Hell yeah, bitch. Now give me a D and shut up so I can go blaze one with my boys." I don't know. Maybe it was the way he said it, but... it was like he wasn't exactly saying it sucked. He was just asking me honestly, "Is that all you got?" And for some reason, I thought to myself: "Yeah, man, I can do better." So I started from scratch. I made another, then another. And by the end of the semester, by like box number five, I had built this thing. You should have seen it. It was insane. I mean, I built it out of Peruvian walnut with inlaid zebrawood. It was fitted with pegs, no screws. I sanded it for days, until it was smooth as glass. Then I rubbed all the wood with tung oil so it was rich and dark. It even smelled good. You know, you put nose in it and breathed in, it was... it was perfect.

You left out the last few lines for some reason?

Group Leader: What happened to the box?
Jesse Pinkman: I... I gave it to my mom.
Group Leader: Nice. You know what I'm gonna say, don't you? It's never too late. They have art co-ops that offer classes, adult extension program at the University.
Jesse Pinkman: You know, I didn't give the box to my mom. I traded it for an ounce of weed.

godtabh

bur wrote: »

That was actually a continuity error that they had to fix.

What was the error?

bur

godtabh wrote: »

What was the error?

In episode 5.01, he's not wearing a watch in the diner scene.

mloc123

The watch was a gift from Jesse.

Leaving it behind, I assume that fact he still wore it to that point was to show he didn't really hate Jesse?

ballsymchugh

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

2 questions from finale...

1. what is the story with

the watch Walt puts on top of petrol pump?

they filmed the bit in the restaurant (start of season 5) before the last episode and walt wasn't wearing the watch, just by accident. it was, as time goes, after the scene at the petrol station on the way back to ABQ so when they figured it out, they just made a point of showing that he had taken it off.

Crackle

Holsten wrote: »

Yeah with zero evidence? The DEA had pretty much NOTHING on Walt but accusations from Marie and Skylar.

His face and name would have been put out after he took Holly, plus he would have been wanted in connection with the disappearance (and presumed murders) of two DEA agents.

Plus, you also have the phonecall to Skyler.

Shout Dust

Why people moan about having to watch Dexter after Breaking Bad, why bother watching a show that you think its ****?

And why people are putting spoiler tags in this thread when there's a spoiler warning in the thread title

JoseJones

Why did he poison Brock? My memory is a bit sketch on those episodes but I remember being confused by the whole thing!

penzo

JoseJones wrote: »

Why did he poison Brock? My memory is a bit sketch on those episodes but I remember being confused by the whole thing!

walt tricked jessie into thinking it was gus to get him back on his side

penzo

there's 3 things I would have liked to have known tho but really it's doesnt affect the storyline that much or anything

who gus was or who he was connected to that made the cartel spare his life in the flashback.

how walt poisoned brock and if brock thought it was him as he was acting sort of weird around him.

a bit more background on walt and gretchen and the early grey matter days.


but it doesn't wreck my head or anything, just everything they done so far was brilliant so just want more cos i'm greedy !

gnfnrhead

Shout Dust wrote: »

Why people moan about having to watch Dexter after Breaking Bad, why bother watching a show that you think its ****?

It was also the final season. Most were watching to see how it ended. If it wasnt the final season I'd have stopped after three or four episodes.

NicoleL88

The only thing I'm left wondering is, did Todd shoot Brock too?

jaykhunter

NicoleL88 wrote: »

The only thing I'm left wondering is, did Todd shoot Brock too?

No, Todd just shot Andrea, to teach Jesse a lesson for trying to escape. They left Brock alive so Uncle Jack's gang still had something to keep Jesse in line (he still had someone to lose)

tim3000

jaykhunter wrote: »

When Jesse was about to leave, he copped Hewell must've taken his weed when he bumped into him/patted him down, he made the connection that the Hewell bump also happened seasons ago when he lost the ricin, Fring wasnt a factor at the time so it must've been Walt to put Hewell up to it : Walt took the ricin, Walt poisoned Brock.

It's a bit of a leap but he knows Walt is full of **** so he beats it out of Saul.

Thanks that cleared it up for me :pac:

A Primal Nut

bur wrote: »

That was actually a continuity error that they had to fix.

I don't get this. He drove 30 hours, I don't think people would have cared if he didn't have the watch by the time he got to New Hampshire. If they really wanted to fix it they could have just shown it in the background.

While it may have been inspired by an attempt to fix a continuity error, I think there is more significance given that it was a gift from Jesse.

LionelNashe

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

2 questions from finale...

1. what is the story with

the watch Walt puts on top of petrol pump?

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I think it was part of a trail of breadcrumbs that he was leaving for the cops, like the way he showed his New Hampshire drivers licence to the Denny's waitress and left the New Hampshire car in the parking lot, even though the cops knew he had been in New Hampshire.

jaykhunter

A Primal Nut wrote: »

I don't get this. He drove 30 hours, I don't think people would have cared if he didn't have the watch by the time he got to New Hampshire. If they really wanted to fix it they could have just shown it in the background. While it may have been inspired by an attempt to fix a continuity error, I think there is more significance given that it was a gift from Jesse.

Agreed, I think that's the main kayfabe significance. Also, he won't need a watch/time has no meaning after tonight, or maybe it's random generosity (someone else can use this watch) as the money on him has no meaning to him (he left a big tip to the waitress)

stevenmu

jaykhunter wrote: »

When Jesse was about to leave, he copped Hewell must've taken his weed when he bumped into him/patted him down, he made the connection that the Hewell bump also happened seasons ago when he lost the ricin, Fring wasnt a factor at the time so it must've been Walt to put Hewell up to it : Walt took the ricin, Walt poisoned Brock.

It's a bit of a leap but he knows Walt is full of **** so he beats it out of Saul.

Don't forget that it was Walt who helped him "find" the ricin afterwords which means Walt must have been responsible for Hewell taking it, and for poisening Brock.

hfallada

Does anyone else think hanks reason for catching Heisenberg after he knew it was Walt, was purely self centred? He didnt want to catch him because he was a DEA agent but because Walt had betrayed him and made him out to be a fool by being under his nose the whole time.

.red.

Why was the meth blue?

vitani

Not really something I don't understand, but I'd love to know how difficult it actually is to make ricin. I don't want to google recipes though because I don't want the police showing up on my doorstep.

hfallada

.red. wrote: »

Why was the meth blue?

One of the ingredients of meth is pseudo. It's found in anti histamines and sudofed. These medicines make you sleepy. But the pseudo keeps you alert. But states with a meth problem generally have Pseudo containing products presciption only or when you buy it you are logged onto a data base to restrict sales.

So Walter uses a substance that has the same effects of pseudo but was blue.

jaykhunter

.red. wrote: »

Why was the meth blue?

In storyline terms it was because of the chemicals Walt used to make meth (not with cough syrup etc), and at a certain high purity it's naturally blue. (although in reality pure meth is colourless!)

ballsymchugh

hfallada wrote: »

One of the ingredients of meth is pseudo. It's found in anti histamines and sudofed. These medicines make you sleepy. But the pseudo keeps you alert. But states with a meth problem generally have Pseudo containing products presciption only or when you buy it you are logged onto a data base to restrict sales.

So Walter uses a substance that has the same effects of pseudo but was blue.

aye, in the first few cooks in season one, they were breaking pseudoephedrine out of blister packets to break up with a pestle and mortar.
it changed when they started to use methylamine as the precursor and that's where the blue came from (as long as the process was done right)

Miguel_Sanchez

A Primal Nut wrote: »

While it may have been inspired by an attempt to fix a continuity error, I think there is more significance given that it was a gift from Jesse.

I think he was joking about it being a continuity error they had to fix.

JoseJones

penzo wrote: »

walt tricked jessie into thinking it was gus to get him back on his side

JoseJones wrote: »

Why did he poison Brock? My memory is a bit sketch on those episodes but I remember being confused by the whole thing!

Yeah but didn't he know that Jesse would figure out pretty quickly that it was lily of the valley and hence it wasn't actually Gus that poisoned him?

blackmadra

I think he was joking about it being a continuity error they had to fix.

Wrong looser! I saw the Talking Bad episode right after the show and Vince Gilligan said himself that it was continuity error.

But they tried to come up with an artsy explanation for it

Wacker The Attacker

When was walter shot last night

Crucifix

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

When was walter shot last night

When he's lying on top of Jessie there's an impact sound and he grunts. I guess a bullet ricocheted and hit him

bren2001

While watching the show I took leaving the watch as Walt saying that his time had stopped. It was over.

I have not watched Talking Bad yet but I don't really get why they would make any deal of the watch for a continuity error. He could of just taken it off.

WellThen?

What really happened with Walt at Gray Matter? It's never been clear to me why he had to leave...

jaykhunter

WellThen? wrote: »

What really happened with Walt at Gray Matter? It's never been clear to me why he had to leave...

Walt and Gretchen were engaged but he rich successful family looked down on him as inferior. He couldn't take it so told her "**** you", broke up with her, and sold his stock. (The details are from cast interviews)

ceadaoin.

jaykhunter wrote: »

Walt and Gretchen were engaged but he rich successful family looked down on him as inferior. He couldn't take it so told her "**** you", broke up with her, and sold his stock. (The details are from cast interviews)

No this was shown in the show wasnt it. After Gretchen found out that Walt was lying to his family about the Schwartz' paying for his chemo he calls her or maybe it was when they met for lunch. She said something about them being engaged and him just upping and leaving her after going to meet her family and discovering that they were rich.

laoisforliam

bren2001 wrote: »

While watching the show I took leaving the watch as Walt saying that his time had stopped. It was over.

I have not watched Talking Bad yet but I don't really get why they would make any deal of the watch for a continuity error. He could of just taken it off.

My reading of it also.

In the closing scene of S01e01 the song 'out of time man' by Mick Harvey plays. Mr. White was essentially fighting a losing battle against time the whole series. Leaving the watch at the gas station was a way of accepting his fate before one last blow-out.

ballsymchugh

who called the police at the end?

laoisforliam

Hard to tell, i think that some overheard the gunfire and reported it. I was however always under the assumption that the Meth lab was isolated.