Flightradar24 Thread

eastmayo

Yes it's on the way to Shannon,don't no what the problem is

sparrowcar

Poochie05 wrote: »

Flew out of Dublin Airport yesterday around 12:30 and saw an Aer Limgus Regional plane being escorted in by 4 fire tenders.anyone know the details? Just curious, might have looked more dramatic than it was!

Santa flight.

EB_2013

Listening on ATC, AFR733 is heading for runway 24.

Problem with forward cargo hold door.

windowspotter

Fire alarm from front cargo hold

flazio

Alarm on the forward cargo hold door. Possible fire?

jimbis

What alarm are they referring too in the cargo hold, I only caught half of the conversation.

Edit, I see the above posts now

EB_2013

Can they not land on runway 06 at Shannon?

flazio

Wind conditions probably favour 24

kub

Didn't a Lufthansa 744 land in Cork a few years ago with a similar issue

jimbis

Only 156 on board including crew. Is it normal to have that few?

flazio

Can ORK handle a Jumbo?

kub

flazio wrote: »

Can ORK handle a Jumbo?

Yes it can and has done loads of times.

jamo2oo9

Just heard it passing overhead at 4000ft over Castletroy and boy, she was not quiet! I could tell there was something off about the sound of it as it wasn't like the B738 or A320 that come out of Shannon regularly so I had to check FR24 and it was a B747-428

kub

How is that 744 doing Is it down?

flazio

Down safe and heading for stand.

windowspotter

Down fine...need to evacuate now & check for fire

flazio

Would they get stairs or would it be out with the slides?

windowspotter

No imminent danger & directed to a stand so steps seems the logical answer here

EB_2013

Photo from Twitter

'UPDATE EMERGENCY Air France flight #AF733 on the ground safe at Shannon. http://t.co/KokpZsAIYG thx to @nickwhittome'

Tenger

jimbis wrote: »

Only 156 on board including crew. Is it normal to have that few?

Probably normal enough at the moment. This is the end of the pre-Xmas lull, same happens in mid-January for approx 4 -6 weeks. However I would expect it to have picked up by Dec 13th!

typer05

I see at the moment there is a ryanair ryr1370 (Boeing 737)departed from Shannon turned around over Achill and is on its way back to Shannon again

Skuxx

typer05 wrote: »

I see at the moment there is a ryanair ryr1370 (Boeing 737)departed from Shannon turned around over Achill and is on its way back to Shannon again

Santa flights!

JCX BXC

typer05 wrote: »

I see at the moment there is a ryanair ryr1370 (Boeing 737)departed from Shannon turned around over Achill and is on its way back to Shannon again

Happened all day yesterday and will happen all day today

highlydebased

Air France A320 inbound SNN to collect pax from earlier diverted 747
http://www.flightradar24.com/AFR389V/50a0882

The Bould Rabbit

That was quick. Do Air France usually have a spare aircraft and crew hanging around in case they get called out to collect a few stranded passengers somewhere?

highlydebased

The Bould Rabbit wrote: »

That was quick. Do Air France usually have a spare aircraft and crew hanging around in case they get called out to collect a few stranded passengers somewhere?

Indeed an airline as big as Air France (any many other carriers even smaller) would have standby aircraft in case of technical fault, diversions, displaced aircraft across the network etc and crew on standby. A common practice.

The Bould Rabbit

Well it seems like a shocking waste of money to me. Surely it costs a lot more in the long run to pay a crew to sit around doing nothing all day while looking out at a perfectly good plane doing nothing either when it could be up there earning its keep.

I reckon it would cost them more doing that in a week than it would to ship the stranded passengers home on the next available scheduled flights from Shannon and Dublin.

highlydebased

The Bould Rabbit wrote: »

Well it seems like a shocking waste of money to me. Surely it costs a lot more in the long run to pay a crew to sit around doing nothing all day while looking out at a perfectly good plane doing nothing either when it could be up there earning its keep.

I reckon it would cost them more doing that in a week than it would to ship the stranded passengers home on the next available scheduled flights from Shannon and Dublin.

In short, it's not at all that simple.

They (crew) work a mix of airport standbys (at airport waiting) and home standbys where they must be available to come to work asap. What crew are paid for these varies

What would be more "shocking" would be the possible disruption and financial cost if standby aircraft and crew were unavailable. Standby crew cover for crew who might phone in sick, or to crew flights covering other disruption like today.

If an aircraft developed a technical fault away from base it could be stranded there for some time depending on the nature of the problem- if there were no standby aircraft + crew other flights that day could potentially be cancelled that day and further beyond.

For example Ryanair have at least 3 or 4 aircraft on standby at Dublin and Stansted (and more) during the Summer. It's in the airlines interest to have standbys for leaving pax delayed by many hours leaves them open to delay compensation payouts, spoiled reputation etc etc.

Standby aircraft themselves might do flying in the morning and be left spare for the afternoon, and so on.

Foggy43

From a longhaul view, one major carrier I know do not keep spare aircraft. If an aircraft goes 'tech' what will happen depends on the time of day. If it occurs in the morning or afternoon then an aircraft scheduled to go later will be 'rolled up' and take the place of the 'tech' aircraft which will be now rolled down in the hope the fault can be rectified. Aircraft going 'tech' late evening/night can result in the schedule been flown the following day as there maybe no aircraft available until aircraft return the following morning. There will be aircraft arriving late evening but they will have been scheduled early morning departures. They can be turned around quickly but the 'tech' aircraft may not be ready for a morning service. The early departures will be high revenue and these will not be comprimised. If an aircraft goes tech away from base then what happens depends on agreements are in place between the carriers. Sometimes a 'rescue' aircraft has to be flown.

It is very expensive to keep aircraft parked up at LHR. A recent example was G-VIIS. It could have been flown back to LHR. It was found it would be far cheaper to leave the aircraft in SNN and do the fix there.

The Bould Rabbit

Right, so its not a case of Air France crew sitting around in CDG all day twiddling their thumbs and moaning about having to choose between l'escargot and horse for lunch again.

But hang on. You mention Ryanair. Aren't they forever leaving people stranded all over the place? You hear of stories about them dropping people off at the wrong airport or not turning up at all. Then O'Leary will say feck them, "they can have a refund for the cost of the flight only, or wait for the next available flight on Tuesday week, or swim."

I never heard of them sending a spare plane to Spain to bring stranded holidaymakers home.