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fr336 · 13-01-2014 1:28pm

Ah. Seems all the US bound flights are heading out west to Scotland than Ireland right now..

homerjay2005 · 13-01-2014 2:09pm

fr336 wrote: »

Ah. Seems all the US bound flights are heading out west to Scotland than Ireland right now..

its way up north now...very strange path. any idea why they are so different and far north today? seems a bit of a waste to be honest to have flights that far off course.

Trampas · 13-01-2014 2:22pm

EI593 / EIN59M looked like it aborted it's landing

flazio · 13-01-2014 2:32pm

homerjay2005 wrote: »

its way up north now...very strange path. any idea why they are so different and far north today? seems a bit of a waste to be honest to have flights that far off course.

Weather conditions perhaps?

ProfessorPlum · 13-01-2014 2:34pm

homerjay2005 wrote: »

its way up north now...very strange path. any idea why they are so different and far north today? seems a bit of a waste to be honest to have flights that far off course.

All the planned tracks (of the OTS) are very far north today owing to very strong westerly winds and turbulence further south.

cml387 · 13-01-2014 2:36pm

ProfessorPlum wrote: »

All the planned tracks (of the OTS) are very far north today owing to very strong westerly winds and turbulence further south.

Remember that PA103 (LHR JFK) flightpath took it over Lockerbie.
It's not that unusual.

phonypony · 13-01-2014 2:50pm

And there's no shortcut to the NAT track, you must enter from the appropriate oceanic entry point.

poteen · 13-01-2014 2:51pm

But even the flight from London to Shannon had an unusual flight path...

ProfessorPlum · 13-01-2014 3:02pm

I'd agree that they are quite unusually far north today. The sig weather charts will show why. Sometimes you can get a clearance to join the outer tracks, but I wouldn't be depending on getting that clearance. Anyway a quick look at the weather today, and it looks like the most southerly track might be a bit rough. Also to point out, although it does look a long way off what you might assume to be the shortest route, you have to remember that the shortest way between two points (on most maps) is not a straight line. The great circle will take you further north than you might imagine at first glance.

peter1892 · 13-01-2014 3:27pm

poteen wrote: »

But even the flight from London to Shannon had an unusual flight path...

Was that the BAW 1 that does LCY-SNN-JFK? I've noticed that it regularly takes a route bringing it over Dublin rather than a more direct route across South Wales & Wexford. But I've always thought that might be done to avoid congestion over London (so that it doesn't mix with traffic approaching LHR).

highlydebased · 13-01-2014 4:37pm

Ryanair Stansted-Shannon flights also route over Dublin as a matter of routine

poteen · 14-01-2014 7:22am

highlydebased wrote: »

Ryanair Stansted-Shannon flights also route over Dublin as a matter of routine

But the Cork flights to heathrow I have noticed usually travel along the South of Ireland. I don't know the answers. These are just observations but all of the above points in relation to Shannon seem logical.

flanzer · 14-01-2014 11:25am

Aer Lingus 757 training at East Midlands

http://www.flightradar24.com/BCS51T

Wise Old Elf · 14-01-2014 11:45am

flanzer wrote: »

Aer Lingus 757 training at East Midlands

http://www.flightradar24.com/BCS51T

Possibly a stupid question, but will it get a "paint job" to Aer Lingus livery, and will it get a new EI designation or remain QY6384?

fr336 · 14-01-2014 11:45am

flanzer wrote: »

Aer Lingus 757 training at East Midlands

http://www.flightradar24.com/BCS51T

How odd..it comes up as a DHL for me

flanzer · 14-01-2014 11:55am

fr336 wrote: »

How odd..it comes up as a DHL for me

It is a DHL. The pilots will be flying cargo for the next few weeks as part of the training

fr336 · 14-01-2014 11:58am

flanzer wrote: »

It is a DHL. The pilots will be flying cargo for the next few weeks as part of the training

Ah..how do you know it's an EI then?

(not doubting, genuine question)

How many UK/Ireland airlines use East Midlands for training? I thought it was an FR thing (probably silly of me, as if they have their reasons for there so will many others!)

flanzer · 14-01-2014 12:01pm

fr336 wrote: »

Ah..how do you know it's an EI then? (not doubting, genuine question)

How many UK/Ireland airlines use East Midlands for training? I thought it was an FR thing (probably silly of me, as if they have their reasons for there so will many others!)

It's an Air Contracters 757 operated by DHL (who have a hub there). With EIN wet leasing off ACL, it was better to provide training here

fr336 · 14-01-2014 12:04pm

flanzer wrote: »

It's an Air Contracters 757 operated by DHL (who have a hub there). With EIN wet leasing off ACL, it was better to provide training here

Where is EIN's main training base?

flanzer · 14-01-2014 12:07pm

fr336 wrote: »

Where is EIN's main training base?

That I don't know. I know they do a bit of training out of Shannon

b757 · 14-01-2014 12:12pm

fr336 wrote: »

Where is EIN's main training base?

Base training is done in Shannon.

Kumsheen · 14-01-2014 12:36pm

fr336 wrote: »

Where is EIN's main training base?

EIN are not going to operate the 757's.

fr336 · 14-01-2014 12:43pm

Kumsheen wrote: »

EIN are not going to operate the 757's.

I'm so confused this morning.

Growler!!! · 14-01-2014 1:34pm

Kumsheen wrote: »

EIN are not going to operate the 757's.

fr336 wrote: »

I'm so confused this morning.

In the same way as EIN don't operate the ATR's.

Now it's confusing :P

flanzer · 14-01-2014 2:10pm

flanzer wrote: »

Aer Lingus 757 training at East Midlands

http://www.flightradar24.com/BCS51T

Callsign now is BCS52T post lunch

http://www.flightradar24.com/BCS52T

Tenger · 14-01-2014 3:14pm

fr336 wrote: »

I'm so confused this morning.

The B757's are going to be operated by Air Contracters. They will operate under the EI brand and livery but daily ops are by ACL regulations.

The flight crew are a mix of EI and ACL, while the cabin crew are all EI. So EI staff will have to be trained to ACL procedures.

ACL already lease B757's to DHl so it makes sense for ACl to carry out the training on 'their' aircraft at a DHL base. Especially as the 2 B757's in SNN are not fully outfitted yet.

(To add confusion....EI and ACL formed a joint partnership to lease the aircraft)

fr336 · 14-01-2014 3:29pm

Tenger wrote: »

The B757's are going to be operated by Air Contracters. They will operate under the EI brand and livery but daily ops are by ACL regulations.

The flight crew are a mix of EI and ACL, while the cabin crew are all EI. So EI staff will have to be trained to ACL procedures.

ACL already lease B757's to DHl so it makes sense for ACl to carry out the training on 'their' aircraft at a DHL base. Especially as the 2 B757's in SNN are not fully outfitted yet.

(To add confusion....EI and ACL formed a joint partnership to lease the aircraft)

Well my head is still cluttered but I think I just about know what's going on now

homerjay2005 · 16-01-2014 2:13am

anybody know much about these 3 Atlantic Airlines Planes that appear each night over central England around 12.30 to 1.00 am?

one seems to be landing in Belfast now, with another heading eastwards from Birmingham. the 3rd seems to be flying south from East Midlands.

why are they always flying this late at night and what are they carrying?

EDIT: while i type, ive spotted a 4th one thats showing a very weird flightpath looking like its coming from Stansted and heading north. find their movement very strange.

the 2nd one from Birmingham seems to be landing in Dublin soon.

Growler!!! · 16-01-2014 6:16am

Like most cargo operators they mainly work at night. They used to be called Air Atlantic before a merger with a swedish cargo company to become West Atlantic. A buddy of mine was a cadet with them before the link up. I think he used to post on here and the FII website.

As to what they may be carrying? Could be anything from perishable items to people's Amazon orders.

homerjay2005 · 16-01-2014 10:42am

Growler!!! wrote: »

Like most cargo operators they mainly work at night. They used to be called Air Atlantic before a merger with a swedish cargo company to become West Atlantic. A buddy of mine was a cadet with them before the link up. I think he used to post on here and the FII website.

As to what they may be carrying? Could be anything from perishable items to people's Amazon orders.

wiki says they specialise in Hazardous material. they had about 6 planes in the sky around 2am last night, just think they must have some special contracts at that hour every night. landed in Belfast, Cardiff and Dublin and somewhere north like Newcastle also and didnt track the other 2 flights.

theres some amount of night traffic from East Midlands, especially from courier companies like DHL and TNT. is there some special set up there that allows it to attrack courier companies so much?

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