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Walton Terrace, North Dock, 1911

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  • 30-09-2013 6:22pm
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    Gravale
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    My grandparents lived at 4 Walton Terrace, North Dock, Dublin, in 1911. I've searched Google maps and a 1912 Dublin map around the docks area and East Wall but haven't seen such a place depicted. Has anyone any idea where this address might be?

    Thanks.


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    chopper6
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    Gravale wrote: »
    My grandparents lived at 4 Walton Terrace, North Dock, Dublin, in 1911. I've searched Google maps and a 1912 Dublin map around the docks area and East Wall but haven't seen such a place depicted. Has anyone any idea where this address might be?

    Thanks.


    Thom's Street Directory will tell you where it is but it might be hard finding one that goes back that far.

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/North_Dock/


    It seems the Ward of North Dock took in quite a large area...from Abbey Street to Oriel Street...


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    spurious
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    The lovely folk upstairs in Pearse Street library have Thom's and similar directories going back to 1800 and before.
    I suspect 'Walton terrace' might be part of another road/street.

    **edit I see someone on the census enumerator's form has written 'West Road'. It may have been/still be(?) a terrace of houses on that road.


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    face1990
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    I took a look at the OSI's historical maps, but couldnt see it. http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,591271,743300,0,10

    The enumerator's abstract has 'West Road' in feint pencil above Walton Terrace. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000054652/
    West Road is still there today, and my guess is that Walton Terrace was off it (presumably on the east side of it - on the historical maps, the west side is built up and has the modern street names, the east side is relatively undeveloped)


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    shanew
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    Walton Terrace is listed in Thom's 1910 as 'off West Road', and consisting of 'Eight small houses' - no names unfortunatly.


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    shanew
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    the 1910 listing for West Road states it's 'near North Strand'. Some of the premises and houses listed for it may be clues...
    Drumcondra Link Line Railway
    Mr. John Cronin, Anna cottage
    Mr. James Kelly, Fort lodge
    Smith & Pearson structural engineers, gate & railing makers
    Smythfield house (tenements)


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    shanew
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    wonder if Walton Terrace may have been some of these houses between West Road and the railway ?

    OSI map, c1900


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    face1990
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    ^^ Beat me to it! :D




    Another possibility OP: There's a triangle of wasteground where Ossory Road joins West Road, between the railway tracks. http://goo.gl/maps/UZii6

    The OSI historical maps show two narrow streets in this triangle, lined with small houses. Sadly the streets aren't named, but I'd think there's a good chance that's where Walton Terrace was.

    Best of luck in your search!


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    shanew
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    Walton Terrace seems to have grown by 1917 - it's listed as part of West Road in this edition and now has 17 houses.

    Two other terraces listed as part of West Road at that time - St. Valentine's terrace of 9 houses, and Sydney terrace with 23. Also mentioned are the railway, Smith & Pearson, nine houses in tenements, and also 5 'small houses'


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    spurious
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    Upstairs in Pearse Street Library are the folk to speak to.
    I think they may even have copies of the full OS maps.


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    Gravale
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    face1990 wrote: »
    Another possibility OP: There's a triangle of wasteground where Ossory Road joins West Road, between the railway tracks.
    http://goo.gl/maps/UZii6 I'd think there's a good chance that's where Walton Terrace was.

    Thanks everyone for the very useful information. I suspect that the above might be the answer, though I'll continue to pursue all other suggestions mentioned by the previous posters.

    The interesting thing is that my grandmother was raised in the houses within the triangle of wasteground just mentioned, then known as Coady's Cottages. She married a Scotsman about 1908 and was living at 4 Walton Terrace in the 1911 Census. See these links to the triangle and Coady's Cottages within it.

    By the way, the photograph was taken from the railway arch crossing over West Road and looking down a small road, clearly seen on the attached OSI map.

    Coady's Cottages, West Road, East Wall (very best).jpg

    Coady's Cottages.jpg


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