Shakhtar Donetsk vs Manchester United k/o 19.45 Sky.

Red Crow

Bringing Giggs on forced us back another 10 yards. Another silly sub from Moyes

BloodBath

Moyes set out to defend tonight. Typical negative football. We're going backwards.

collie0708

That has been coming all night,the last 15 mins will be tough I can see us going home with 0 points

Nolars

ahh Giggs not doing his job of doing anything.

Kerrydude1981

Seem to catch Vidic by surprise

bucketybuck

Surprise surprise. :rolleyes:

PhlegmyMoses

Deserved for Shakhtar. Moyes needs to cop on with these lineups and substitutions

kryogen

Whooosh

Danye

Model to happen when you bring a 38 year old on in the centre of the park! Vidic was poor for the goal but the way Vslencia just let his man run off him again is criminal!!

deisedevil

Sitting so deep all night that they may as well be sitting in the stands altogether watching the goals go in.

By the way, who's the 2nd commentator tonight on Sky? He's fukcing awful!

Paul Tergat

deisedevil wrote: »

Sitting so deep all night that they may as well be sitting in the stands altogether watching the goals go in.

By the way, who's the 2nd commentator tonight on Sky? He's fukcing awful!

Alan McInally

Peanut Butter Jelly

Well done Ryan, do a plied the next time you give them the ****ing ball.

cson

Paul Tergat wrote: »

This is no way to judge a footballer

It is and it isn't. When you aren't regularly playing in the Champions League you can take time to adjust; the good sides will show you up. I remember watching Arteta against Milan in his first season with Arsenal and he was absolutely swamped, lost out there. Now he looks the part. Same will happen with Fellaini.

edgecutter

Yes ashley sit down

SirDelboy18

Valencia is better than Nani defensively though!

CSF

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Deserved for Shakhtar. Moyes needs to cop on with these lineups and substitutions

The man is simply out of his depth.

kryogen

Any chance this ****ing sentimentality with Giggs is going to end after any of his inept appearances

Paul Tergat

cson wrote: »

It is and it isn't. When you aren't regularly playing in the Champions League you can take time to adjust; the good sides will show you up. I remember watching Arteta against Milan in his first season with Arsenal and he was absolutely swamped, lost out there. Now he looks the part. Same will happen with Fellaini.

Sorry, I mean the fact he isnt actually watching him.

BloodBath

Model to happen when you bring a 38 year old on in the centre of the park! Vidic was poor for the goal but the way Vslencia just let his man run off him again is criminal!

39. 40 in a few weeks.

Kylo Ren

CSF wrote: »

The man is simply out of his depth.

You should see him in a swimming pool.

Hank Scorpio

kryogen wrote: »

Any chance this ****ing sentimentality with Giggs is going to end after any of his inept appearances

Wouldn't be surprised if he got another 1 year contract

jamesbere

I'm fairly convinced shakhtar have mined so deep they've ended up in Brazil.

Nolars

1 sub again tonight?

PhlegmyMoses

CSF wrote: »

The man is simply out of his depth.

Not sure I totally agree but it's like he is trying to make us really functional and is only used to hard fought points. That's not how it is with United.

Can only hope he grows into it. By the by lads, Fellaini will get better. He has played amazingly well against top PL teams so to call him or of his depth after two European games against worse opposition is very premature.

collie0708

Rvp and welbeck are getting no service at all,looks like its backs to the wall for the last 5 mins

kryogen

Seeing Giggs on the field is actually tilting me

Never mind watching RVP stranded and starved

MagicMarker

Why have we not made a change since they score?

Kerrydude1981

If they drop back any further they will be lining the goals with DDG

Hank Scorpio

Nolars wrote: »

1 sub again tonight?

So far yeah, as bad as Fellaini was playing he was still able to offer a outlet and hold the ball up, he was playing behind RVP . Since Giggs came on they can't get out. Baffling sub

kryogen

Nolars wrote: »

1 sub again tonight?

Moyes will be delighted with this result sure! Doesn't want to change anything in case he loses

The exact opposite attitude of what should be in the managers chair at the club

Red Crow

Moyes needs to improve massively. His decision making has been terrible and we're playing a boring brand of football. Terrible stuff to watch.

kryogen

MagicMarker wrote: »

Why have we not made a change since they score?

This would be considered job done by the manager

super_furry

This is so much like Hodgson at Liverpool, it's uncanny.

Fanny Biscuit

collie0708 wrote: »

Rvp and welbeck are getting no service at all,looks like its backs to the wall for the last 5 mins

It's being like this all through the second half from what i have seeing. Another poor performance and odd team selection.

CSF

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Not sure i totally agree but it's like he is trying to make us really functional and is only used to hard fought points. That's not how it is with United.

This is the exact issue right here. I've never seen anything from Moyes to suggest he is capable of turning United into a slick effective attacking team capable of winning the amount of games that the teams who win the trophies usually win.

Nolars

Giggs, carrick and clev in midfield Ive seen more technique in the irish team.

retalivity

super_furry wrote: »

This is so much like Hodgson at Liverpool, it's uncanny.

I would actually laugh if he came out afterwards and said it was a historic result

Cypher_sounds

Valencia has perfected the art of standing still beside a football.

keith16

super_furry wrote: »

This is so much like Hodgson at Liverpool, it's uncanny.

Except it's the Champions League we're all watching.

super_furry

retalivity wrote: »

I would actually laugh if he came out afterwards and said it was a historic result

Tough place to come.

No easy games in Europe.

A good point away from home.

We'll look forward to the next game.

Cypher_sounds

super_furry wrote: »

This is so much like Hodgson at Liverpool, it's uncanny.

When was Hodgson in the CL with pool?

BloodBath

Shakhtar making subs to try and go win the game. Moyes totally inactive. He'll be gone by January.

Danye

Vidic with a goal here!

Kylo Ren

super_furry wrote: »

This is so much like Hodgson at Liverpool, it's uncanny.

Except they are league champions, and they are playing in the Champions League.

Rayne Wooney

One of the best strikers in the world on the pitch and we create sweet f*ck all for him. It's only a matter of time before RVP starts to get frustrated with Moyes' tactics.

kryogen

retalivity wrote: »

I would actually laugh if he came out afterwards and said it was a historic result

He will tell you its a good result

Ignoring that they were there for the taking

kryogen

****ing love Bernard, delighted to see him play in Spain or England in a couple of seasons

kryogen

Ok, that's it, Im on tilt

Red Crow

Phil Jones on. GTFO Moyes

super_furry

Wow. Phil Jones in the second minute of added time.