Donegal GAA Discussion Thread

ArnoldJRimmer

doc_17 wrote: »

When did we last play Tyrone in an Ulster Final?

Ah the memories, my first Ulster final was the drawn game in 1989, a scorcher of a day and sat high up on the old hill. Donegal had it won when the ref gave a shocking decision in favour of Tyrone to hand them an equaliser. Then Tyrone hammered us in the replay

doc_17

ArnoldJRimmer wrote: »

Ah the memories, my first Ulster final was the drawn game in 1989, a scorcher of a day and sat high up on the old hill. Donegal had it won when the ref gave a shocking decision in favour of Tyrone to hand them an equaliser. Then Tyrone hammered us in the replay

Yeah I was at that replay. First ever game away game. I was fairly sure we hadn't played them since in a final but wanted to check!

Gonna be a tough one but so important to win it given the side of the draw we'll end up on

jjdonegal

doc_17 wrote: »

Yeah I was at that replay. First ever game away game. I was fairly sure we hadn't played them since in a final but wanted to check!

Gonna be a tough one but so important to win it given the side of the draw we'll end up on

When would the loser be out again? 2 weeks after is it?

charlie14

jjdonegal wrote: »

When would the loser be out again? 2 weeks after is it?

FAIK it is now 2 weeks. Changed from just the 1 two years ago.

Plenty of time for Tyrone

Redsoxfan

doc_17 wrote:

Gonna be a tough one but so important to win it given the side of the draw we'll end up on

Important to win it for the Ulster Championship itself, it's enough for me this year. Anytime we have lost in the Final we have fallen well short in the Quarter Finals so it's the end of the line as far as I'm concerned. If we win I will start considering other opportunities!

K-9

ArnoldJRimmer wrote: »

Ah the memories, my first Ulster final was the drawn game in 1989, a scorcher of a day and sat high up on the old hill. Donegal had it won when the ref gave a shocking decision in favour of Tyrone to hand them an equaliser. Then Tyrone hammered us in the replay

Yep we had the first match won, shocking in the second match. I think the second match was a soaking wet day IIRC.

Anyway, at least all the hype and favouritism will be on Tyrone going in.

Alvin Holler

Redsoxfan wrote: »

Important to win it for the Ulster Championship itself, it's enough for me this year. Anytime we have lost in the Final we have fallen well short in the Quarter Finals so it's the end of the line as far as I'm concerned. If we win I will start considering other opportunities!

This is the key point. If we lose the Ulster final we'll most probably playing Monaghan, Mayo or Cork in a qualifier and then if we win that we'll be playing Dublin in the quarters.

Whereas if we win, I'm not 100% sure but we certainly couldn't play Tyrone and probably not Monaghan so we'd be looking at Mayo. They'd have come through a tough qualifier route but i'd fancy us after a couple weeks rest.

So basically, win ulster and we're looking at Mayo-> Galway/Roscommon to get to All Ireland Final. Lose and we could be looking at Mayo -> Dublin -> Kerry.

Happy to be corrected if I've got any of this wrong!!

downthemiddle

Never a penalty and never a black card.

Redsoxfan

downthemiddle wrote:

Never a penalty and never a black card.

Yep, very harsh. Tony was having a fine game.

harpsman

ArnoldJRimmer wrote: »

Ah the memories, my first Ulster final was the drawn game in 1989, a scorcher of a day and sat high up on the old hill. Donegal had it won when the ref gave a shocking decision in favour of Tyrone to hand them an equaliser. Then Tyrone hammered us in the replay

Yeah Damien O Hagan charged head first into John Connors and ref gave a free which "Scotchy" Conway popped over. Robbery.
I when I was younger and all Ulster games had Ulstermen reffing there would have been the perception that 6 county refs always looked after 6 county teams. May be nonsense but if Jim Currans(Tyrone) performance in the 92 final is anything to go by then it wouldn't surprise me.

Ps met OHagans brother after match in 05 and when I brought it up he laughed and said yeah he was a demon for winning those kind of frees😡

doc_17

It's a bit like the perception in this county where refs from, let's say they southern board teams, are always harsher on the northern teams and vice versa.

squareball1988

What a satisfying win that was. Serious credit must go to Rory for getting the lads pumped up for another 78mins of football.

The first goal concession was a sideline mistake and all those antics are turning is into a hateful enough team. But in any event we were deserving victors.

Anthony and Rory would have been MOTM candidates had we not lost them. Murphy imperious. Marty unheralded. And E McGee had a stormer. We really hadn't a bad player on the day. N McGee will do well to get his jersey back off Gillespie. He's pure Gaoth Dobhair that young lad. M McHugh had a great cameo too. And that point (that he never should have tried) was class.

Tyrone will likely go in as favourites purely on the momentum of their 5 goals. And that's fine by me. A win would almost make me feel bad for ever doubting Rory. Hopefully it'll be a minor-senior double. Another potentially great day for Donegal in Clones.

harpsman

Alvin Holler wrote: »

This is the key point. If we lose the Ulster final we'll most probably playing Monaghan, Mayo or Cork in a qualifier and then if we win that we'll be playing Dublin in the quarters.

Whereas if we win, I'm not 100% sure but we certainly couldn't play Tyrone and probably not Monaghan so we'd be looking at Mayo. They'd have come through a tough qualifier route but i'd fancy us after a couple weeks rest.

So basically, win ulster and we're looking at Mayo-> Galway/Roscommon to get to All Ireland Final. Lose and we could be looking at Mayo -> Dublin -> Kerry.

Happy to be corrected if I've got any of this wrong!!

I think we could play Monaghan again if drawn. Ideally Monaghan and Mayo would be drawn together and we get the other 4b winner-possibly Cork/Westmeath, not that Id completely write off Cork. All hypothetical, obviously. Still buzzing after taking out our Farney friends. Time to focus on Tyrone-for some reason I feel strangely relaxed about it:eek:

Nidgeweasel

harpsman wrote: »

Time to focus on Tyrone-for some reason I feel strangely relaxed about it:eek:

You must not have to listen to them on a daily basis!

Nidgeweasel

Just heard that Seamus McGeady (Radio na Gaelteacht) died suddenly yesterday.

What a real shame that is. A genuine man with an obvious love for the GAA and the Irish language.

He'll be missed by many on a match day.

RIP.

Ceist_Beag

Ah God, that's terrible news Nidge. Once again on Saturday night he brought the match into our house and I only commented today how it's often more tense listening to a match on the radio than watching on tv. Seamus was up there with the best on describing a game to the listeners.
It's a big loss to his many listeners, his family and all who knew him.

Ar dheis De go raibh a n'anam.

downthemiddle

Nidgeweasel wrote: »

Just heard that Seamus McGeady (Radio na Gaelteacht) died suddenly yesterday.

What a real shame that is. A genuine man with an obvious love for the GAA and the Irish language.

He'll be missed by many on a match day.

RIP.

Séamus McGeady was a genuinely decent person as well as a broadcaster of renown. He will be missed in Cloughaneely for his contribution to life in the area.
Séamus had a life long love of sport. He played full back on a PCC soccer team that reached an All Ireland Schools final as well as for Glenea Utd. He also made many appearances for Cloughaneely. After graduating from college he started working with Radio na Gaeltachta where he brought sport to life for many native speakers.
Suaimhneas sioraí dá anam uasal.

harpsman

I know you cant read too much into it but last nights result puts our win over Monaghan into perspective.

Im sure Therone will be strong favourites now.

boxer.fan

harpsman wrote: »

I know you cant read too much into it but last nights result puts our win over Monaghan into perspective.

Im sure Therone will be strong favourites now.

Really was the unexpected result although teams regularly struggle at that level of the qualifiers. Hard to know what to make of the whole setup as it stands. We may not find out where we're at til we get out of Ulster by the looks of things.

Has the ref been named yet for the final?

Not that one

Has Gillespie forced his way into the starting 15 even with Neil Mc Gee to return, or will he have a season of filling any of the 3 full back/ 6 defensive positions as first sub.
I was impressed by him in the first game vs Monaghan.
I didn't see second game, but match reports/player ratings in papers were ok.

Not many other changes likely, i'm a bit nervous about the negative vibes that Karl Lacey may not be able to provide to his normal standard, and long term concerns over Neil Gallagher's contribution this season.

Other than that, let them at it.... and hope for the best.

North of 32

harpsman wrote: »

I know you cant read too much into it but last nights result puts our win over Monaghan into perspective.

Im sure Therone will be strong favourites now.

I think I see what you're doing

LilNiall

I see David Coldrick is the ref for Sunday. Was also ref in 2013 and 2015.

Nidgeweasel

LilNiall wrote: »

I see David Coldrick is the ref for Sunday. Was also ref in 2013 and 2015.

A fine omen!

As long as it's not the poison dwarf from Sligo I'm relatively happy.

charlie14

LilNiall wrote: »

I see David Coldrick is the ref for Sunday. Was also ref in 2013 and 2015.

In 2013 he did nothing when Mark Mc Hugh blatantly taken out of it.

Alvin Holler

Not that one wrote: »

Has Gillespie forced his way into the starting 15 even with Neil Mc Gee to return, or will he have a season of filling any of the 3 full back/ 6 defensive positions as first sub.
I was impressed by him in the first game vs Monaghan.
I didn't see second game, but match reports/player ratings in papers were ok.

He was solid in both games, I'd probably keep him in at the expense of Thompson.

Looking forward to Sunday, an Ulster title would be absolutely massive to us but there's so much more at stake.

doc_17

Interesting comments from Jim today but very few from outside the county will buy them!

charlie14

Alvin Holler wrote: »

He was solid in both games, I'd probably keep him in at the expense of Thompson.

Looking forward to Sunday, an Ulster title would be absolutely massive to us but there's so much more at stake.

I really liked the cut of the lad, but I`d worry he may not be as effective out in the wide open spaces as he is in a full back line. Especially v Tyrone.

charlie14

doc_17 wrote: »

Interesting comments from Jim today but very few from outside the county will buy them!

I thought myself he got it spot on. Other than ourselves 2012 and 2014 especially and Monaghan and Tyrone I haven`seen a team that can transfer from a blanket defence to attack in any meaningful manner.
It`s just blanket and then no great ideas where they are going.

Kinda wish he hadn`t said it though.
I`d be happy enough playing teams that keep 14 back and take all day to move the ball from defence..:)

dog_pig

Alvin Holler wrote: »

He was solid in both games, I'd probably keep him in at the expense of Thompson.

Looking forward to Sunday, an Ulster title would be absolutely massive to us but there's so much more at stake.

I thought Thompson was very good, especially in the replay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHn2zRn4zxQ

K-9

doc_17 wrote: »

Interesting comments from Jim today but very few from outside the county will buy them!

In fairness the same thing has been pointed out by pundits on the Sunday Game and the press for ages now, sweepers just covering space and nothing else and no outlets for attack.

When at our best it's an exciting style to watch, same as counter attacking done well in soccer. Otherwise it's horrific to watch, club football is getting ruined by it.

That old adage, the best forwards will win it is still true, some teams forget all about the forward part! The other thing is it takes a couple of years to develop properly and managers often don't get 3 years to get it working properly.