Donegal GAA Discussion Thread

overshoot

yea seems to be the jist of it, ref was informing players etc i noticed harps said on their facebook page, 'not all our players knew' so plenty did think they were losing.

it completely changed the type of game though and who was defending/pressing for the last score. always thought the refs score was final, would think a replay was the only fair way to do it. Would have major repercussions going forward if precedent was set to change a result on review, think that Louth/Meath Leinster final as the highest profile one (edit or the last derry final that players are now getting year long bans from)

dgl1992

So Glenties have appealed the decision of the ulster hearings committee to Croke Park. St. Eunans are the champions in Donegal and should be left in peace to prepare for Sundays game versus Fermanagh champions Roslea.

dgl1992

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From what I've heard, the Black Card had no reason to be rescinded.

Just seeing this point today. Probably should have read the thread more carefully! The black card given to Ciaran Bonner was not warranted at all. The collision was an accidental one and not deliberate. In order for a collision between players to be a cynical behaviour foul then the contact must be deliberate.

This matter is dragging on and on and at this stage is beyond ridiculous.

dgl1992

St. Eunans play Roslea in the ulster club this Sunday at 2.30 in O'Donnell park. Im looking forward to this game. Its Eunans first home draw in Ulster club in as long as i can remember. On their home patch they should have too much for Roslea.

I watched them against Glenswilly in last years Ulster Semi final and they were very one dimensional. Only tactic was lump high ball in on top of the Quigleys. Rumours that Sean Quigley definitely wont start suggest they wont have the fire power to down Eunans. Only caveat for Eunans is that last year Roslea were managed by Peter McGinnity. He was an old school manager fond of the man v man approach.

Mark Harte is a different character altogether. He may have a few tricks up his sleeve!

Hope all Gaels in Donegal get out and support the Donegal champions.

Redsoxfan

So Croke Park have accepted Naomh Conaill's appeal and so now Ulster Council will actually hear it.

No clue where this goes next if Ulster decide in Naomh Conaill's favour.

RMDrive

Redsoxfan wrote: »

So Croke Park have accepted Naomh Conaill's appeal and so now Ulster Council will actually hear it.

No clue where this goes next if Ulster deciede in Naomh Conaill's favour.

Has there been any word of when the UC will meet on this? Will tomorrow's game go ahead?

Alvin Holler

Hadn't heard anything since the croke park decision.

I'd be surprised if it was overturned. It's a referee's mistake and there's nothing in the rulebook about overturning a result.

dgl1992

Yeah the UHC have to hear the appeal of the Donegal CCC decision now. Some folks on Facebook and twitter saying appeal against result was successful. THAT IS NOT THE CASE.

As poster above states there is nothing in the rule book to force a replay. A referees error cannot lead to a replay.

There was a good piece in yesterdays Irish Times which referenced a case that went to the DRA and involved an error made by a referee. Sorry i cant get a link but it should still be up there and it explains the position pretty well

dgl1992

RMDrive wrote: »

Has there been any word of when the UC will meet on this? Will tomorrow's game go ahead?

Think they meet tonight. Danny Murphy from Ulster Council has said tomorrows game goes ahead and the winners of tomorrows game will be in the Ulster Semi final.

Redsoxfan

As far as I am aware, there will be no results overturned, no replays.

Redsoxfan

Fantastic by Cloughaneely - less than 24 hours after winning the Donegal Intermediate Championship, they win their first round game in Ulster against Castledawson after extra time, away from home!

Eunans had it easy enough. Omagh will be a different proposition I'm sure. Slaughneil v Clontibret in the other semi final.

dgl1992

Eunans had a facile victory over Roslea yesterday. They had their work done on the Quigley boys and eventually Seamus Quigley grew frustrated and roamed out the field. Conal Dunne was excellent as was their entire defence. Only conceding 6 points is fantastic.

Looking forward to next Sundays game v Omagh St.Endas. Its in Celtic park too so not too far to go!

tanko

Nidgeweasel wrote: »

Eunans county champions.

Crossmaglen out of Ulster. Big chance missed for Glenswilly.

Can I have your runners now? You'll hardly wear them again.:D

dgl1992

So our McKenna cup fixtures and locations are out. First up for Rory Gallagher s charges is a trip to Celtic park on the 4th of January. Then we are home to Queens on the 11th followed by a home game versus Fermanagh on Wednesday the 14th. Delighted we are at home to Fermanagh, hate the trip to Enniskillen!!

harpsman

Would it be better for Rory to tailor training to be peaking in August, even if it means theyre not 100% against Tyrone?

That Ulster draw is so awful you could expend alot of energy and still not win it and then have nothing in the tank after that.

Might be better to be in qualifiers early if we have AI ambitions.

ghostfacekilla

I'd rather the kitchen sink be thrown at Tyrone, firstly to setdown a psychological marker that their famine has regretfully been extended for another three years and secondly to try and win an ulster under our new chief of staff. Even if we only progressed that far, it would be a great springboard for next year and it'd give Rory a good idea what bodies could sustain an assault the following year in Drumcondra.

Any whispers at home on a backroom team yet?

Nidgeweasel

Four masters ladies beaten last night.

At least they got a second bite of it and were beaten on the field which should be easier to take.

Nidgeweasel

Eunans beaten in Ulster semi final by Omagh. You know, for a change.

Cloughaneeley beat out the gate by warrenpoint.

dgl1992

Eunans were second best on the day. Omagh had 4 wonderful goal opportunities but only took one. Ruled midfield until big Joe went off injured. Then Rory took over. Need to find a few more scoring forwards to compete in Ulster

Redsoxfan

In case anyone missed it, during an interview published in the Examiner last week, Paul Durcan seemed to confirm he is coming back for another year. Great news.

Nidgeweasel

Redsoxfan wrote: »

In case anyone missed it, during an interview published in the Examiner last week, Paul Durcan seemed to confirm he is coming back for another year. Great news.

Good to hear it.

That being said he had a shocker against Eunans in the QF. Seemed like his head had gone. Good break now for him though, I'm sure he'll be fine.

dgl1992

So Glenswilly Manager Gary McDaid is part of Rory Gallaghers backroom team. He has had fantastic success with limited resources in Glenswilly.

McKenna cup cant come around quick enough now!!

Nidgeweasel

dgl1992 wrote: »

So Glenswilly Manager Gary McDaid is part of Rory Gallaghers backroom team. He has had fantastic success with limited resources in Glenswilly.

McKenna cup cant come around quick enough now!!

He's done a great job with them for sure. They've some brilliant footballers though and should be winning the championship. I felt they left one behind them this year, no disrespect to St. Eunans.

From what I've seen of Glenswilly they are very professional in terms of their men on the line (and also taking notes in the stands) they appear to have a big emphasis on in game analysis and stats so hopefully GMcD can bring plenty to the table.

Added bonus of course in that he's hugely knowledgeable about Donegal football and football generally.

Any link to this appointment by the way? Will he stay on with Glenswilly?

ghostfacekilla

Mark McHugh has attended trials for the seniors if the meeeeeeja are to be believed.

Fr Tod Umptious

harpsman wrote: »

Would it be better for Rory to tailor training to be peaking in August, even if it means theyre not 100% against Tyrone?

That Ulster draw is so awful you could expend alot of energy and still not win it and then have nothing in the tank after that.

Might be better to be in qualifiers early if we have AI ambitions.

That's risky business when the B side of the qualifiers is so tough

If you lose to Tyrone then you will have to play four qulaifer games in fairly quick succession against four of the following
Derry, Down, Armagh, Tyrone, Mayo, Galway, Leitrim, Waterford, Tipp, Kerry, Louth, Westmeat, Wexford, Meath.

And if you get through that you play the Connaught or Ulster champion in the quarterfinal.

Now you could be lucky and get the dross of the list above, but equally you could end up playing the Ulster teams you were hoping to avoid, or one of Mayo or Galway
I'm not sure but Tyrone may also be a possible fixture later in the qualifiers

Winning the province is vitally important to All Ireland contenders, it helps you plan and prepare and ensures that you avoid the other big guns in the QF

Ceist_Beag

Fair play to Termon, absolutely brilliant performance and result yesterday.

Nidgeweasel

Geraldine to get called up to the men's senior panel?

dgl1992

Congratulations to the Termon ladies. Fantastic achievement. Geraldine McLaughlin is some woman for one woman! 3.08 in an All Ireland Final. Unbelievable Jeff!

ghostfacekilla

Paul Brennan's transfer to Bundoran has gone through which would make him eligible for inter county once he plays a club championship match. Has anyone any idea if he is any better than our current stock of half backs? I wonder was this a wiley move by our new 'dear leader' Dear Santa, can we please recruit Emlyn Mulligan...I have however been a terribly behaved boy this year.

Nidgeweasel

ghostfacekilla wrote: »

Paul Brennan's transfer to Bundoran has gone through which would make him eligible for inter county once he plays a club championship match. Has anyone any idea if he is any better than our current stock of half backs? I wonder was this a wiley move by our new 'dear leader' Dear Santa, can we please recruit Emlyn Mulligan...I have however been a terribly behaved boy this year.

He's not. Our half backs are outstanding to a man.

I don't think he'd have any impact on our squad whatsoever and I'd rather bring through a minor.

overshoot

Nidgeweasel wrote: »

He's not. Our half backs are outstanding to a man.

I don't think he'd have any impact on our squad whatsoever and I'd rather bring through a minor.

Not on the first team, his primary position is 6, his won't be usurping a fit Karl lacey.
Thompson is probably underrated compared to his compatriots and the more vunrable...not thrilled but he could make the match day squad.

I would not be favouring these kind of transfers tho. If he had moved to letterkenny for example, grand that's work ir whatever, its life in an amateur game, but its about 5 miles from kinlough to bundoran

Redsoxfan

Whatever about the transfer itself, this leaves a bad taste

http://www.leitrimobserver.ie/news/local-news/kinlough-footballer-convicted-of-serious-assault-1-2032441

Nidgeweasel

Redsoxfan wrote: »

Whatever about the transfer itself, this leaves a bad taste

http://www.leitrimobserver.ie/news/local-news/kinlough-footballer-convicted-of-serious-assault-1-2032441

It does, but to be fair, it was a one off incident when he was very young. Not excusing the behaviour at all but I'm sure he's learned his lesson.

I really don't think he'd even make the panel.

Timmyctc

Redsoxfan wrote: »

Whatever about the transfer itself, this leaves a bad taste

http://www.leitrimobserver.ie/news/local-news/kinlough-footballer-convicted-of-serious-assault-1-2032441

That was 7 years ago in fairness. Its not like its been a recurring thing in recent years has it?

2moreMinutes

And some of our own home-grown fellas aren't exactly angels either.....

Redsoxfan

Timmyctc wrote: »

That was 7 years ago in fairness. Its not like its been a recurring thing in recent years has it?

I have no idea. I have been asking a few different people about the guy but information is hard to find.

major deegan

overshoot wrote: »

Not on the first team, his primary position is 6, his won't be usurping a fit Karl lacey.
Thompson is probably underrated compared to his compatriots and the more vunrable...not thrilled but he could make the match day squad.

I would not be favouring these kind of transfers tho. If he had moved to letterkenny for example, grand that's work ir whatever, its life in an amateur game, but its about 5 miles from kinlough to bundoran

It's actually less than two miles from Kinlough to Bundoran.....Emlyn Mulligan was from Bundoran originally afaik!

charlie14

overshoot wrote: »

Not on the first team, his primary position is 6, his won't be usurping a fit Karl lacey.
Thompson is probably underrated compared to his compatriots and the more vunrable...not thrilled but he could make the match day squad.

I would not be favouring these kind of transfers tho. If he had moved to letterkenny for example, grand that's work ir whatever, its life in an amateur game, but its about 5 miles from kinlough to bundoran

When Thompson first got his place, to my shame I didn`t rate him at all and said so. Over the years not only has he grown on me, but last year, and particulary this year, I thought him amongst our top performers

harpsman

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

That's risky business when the B side of the qualifiers is so tough

If you lose to Tyrone then you will have to play four qulaifer games in fairly quick succession against four of the following
Derry, Down, Armagh, Tyrone, Mayo, Galway, Leitrim, Waterford, Tipp, Kerry, Louth, Westmeat, Wexford, Meath.

And if you get through that you play the Connaught or Ulster champion in the quarterfinal.

Now you could be lucky and get the dross of the list above, but equally you could end up playing the Ulster teams you were hoping to avoid, or one of Mayo or Galway
I'm not sure but Tyrone may also be a possible fixture later in the qualifiers

Winning the province is vitally important to All Ireland contenders, it helps you plan and prepare and ensures that you avoid the other big guns in the QF

What a f***ing joke this new qualifirs system is. Cork and Galway got to qf last year by beatin Sligo and Tipperary. By the looks of next years draw Donegal will be playin the same Ulster teams til Christmas to get that far in or out of the province!

Fr Tod Umptious

harpsman wrote: »

What a f***ing joke this new qualifirs system is. Cork and Galway got to qf last year by beatin Sligo and Tipperary. By the looks of next years draw Donegal will be playin the same Ulster teams til Christmas to get that far in or out of the province!

Yep, two years on the trot now it has come out completely lopsided

Nidgeweasel

13 new faces (well, 12 + Gary McFadden) on the panel ahead of the Kenna cup. Wouldn't give much weight to it most will be gone after it anyway. Good to see new faces in for a while though if only to give some new players some exposure and who knows they might step up and give Rory a headache.

Thing to take from that is Big Neil and Karl getting an extended break. Karl looked absolutely dead on his feet at times last year although his influence remains absolutely critical. More than happy to even see him written off for the league with a view to coming in towards the tail end and ready for the summer.

Oh, and Mark McHughs back.

http://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/gaa/gaelic-football/gaelic-football-news/rory-gallagher-adds-13-newcomers-4857872

Ceist_Beag

Nidgeweasel wrote: »

Oh, and Mark McHughs back.

Not surprised at this in itself but I'm quite surprised at the lack of any real mention of it in the reports on the squad, other than as a side note! Great to have him back anyway.

rrs

Timmyctc wrote: »

That was 7 years ago in fairness. Its not like its been a recurring thing in recent years has it?

He got a 3 month this year during the Club Championship too, the main reason for his switch it appears to Bundoran

overshoot

Ceist_Beag wrote: »

Not surprised at this in itself but I'm quite surprised at the lack of any real mention of it in the reports on the squad, other than as a side note! Great to have him back anyway.

In fairness he announced it months ago that he would play again this year. Just the routine now of calling him up.

I'm sure there will be a few pieces on the McHugh brothers and isn't eoin their cousin?

charlie14

overshoot wrote: »

In fairness he announced it months ago that he would play again this year. Just the routine now of calling him up.

I'm sure there will be a few pieces on the McHugh brothers and isn't eoin their cousin?

Yeah, first cousin and a son of Jame`s as fair as I know. Saw him in Peile Na Gaeltachta final this year. Scored a cracker of a goal, and looked very sharp. Like the rest of the clan, plenty of running and ghosts into good positions.

Redsoxfan

Would like to see Eoin McHugh get a run during the McKenna Cup and even the League to see if he's up to it at the highest level. Like what I have seen and heard at club level, but that's only an indicator. That Gaeltacht Final was a cakewalk for Kilcar.

Biggest question is, I suppose, how many of those not in the squad will return for the League? No public indication that anyone is dropping out, but plenty of rumours. As there were last year I suppose.

ghostfacekilla

No scores from play as of yet from Tír Chonaill at half time in the McKenna Cup.

overshoot

Derry 1-5, Donegal 5pts. converting 5 out of 19 shots, Derry 6 from 10

Donegal Gaa Results and Updates are great on Facebook, they get to a few games themselves and retweet (linked to fb) alan foley, chris mcnulty.
McElhinney (c) and Dermot Molloy are the only starters who would have played in the AI final. Mark McHugh starting also. Full team here

edit: didnt read that right... none from play... thought you were asking the score!

opiniated

Bit of a massacre going on. Still, they're only lads, so I suppose the experience will prove valuable, if nothing else.

Redsoxfan

#roryout