Its not just about the bike! - 400m Swim TT 2013-2014

Kurt Godel

Name|Pool Length|Oct '13|Nov|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June'14
Green&Red|50m|6:48||||||||

tunney

Name|Pool Length|Oct '13|Nov|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June'14
Green&Red|50m|6:48||||||||
Tunney|25m|7:04||||||||


Seeing as I swam about four times since May not too bad.

Stroke count slipped out from 36 per 100m for first 100m to 40 for last, and pacing wasn't great either 1:39 out to 1:51

StaggerLee

Name|Pool Length|Oct '13|Nov|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June'14
Green&Red|50m|6:48||||||||
Tunney|25m|7:04||||||||
Staggerlee|50m|6:55||||||||

Kurt Godel

Name|Pool Length|Oct '13|Nov|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June'14
Green&Red|50m|6:48||||||||
Tunney|25m|7:04||||||||
Staggerlee|50m|6:55||||||||
Kurt Godel|25m|6:48||||||||


I was at the pool with my kids, do decided to throw down a "marker" to measure progress against over the next few months. No huge effort involved, 1:35 for the first 100m but I deliberately eased off a bit for the rest- mainly so I could be sure I'd get the whole 400 done!

The time is fair enough, for no recent pool activity and little overall swimming. I'll be looking to take at least a minute off this over the lifetime of this table.

stampydmonkey

Name|Pool Length|Oct '13|Nov|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June'14
Green&Red|50m|6:48||||||||
Tunney|25m|7:04||||||||
Staggerlee|50m|6:55||||||||
Kurt Godel|25m|6:48||||||||
Stampydmonkey|25m|6:21||||||||




Did 1km warm up, then a lane came free so just had a go. Would love to get down to 5:30. Got tired very quickly so hopefully have some room to make that improvement

Green&Red

Tunney whats ur stroke rate/min?
Have been working on increasing mine over the last two months, invested in a metronome, one of the best pieces of kit I own, has really improved my speed endurance and my general speed

tunney

Green&Red wrote: »

Tunney whats ur stroke rate/min?
Have been working on increasing mine over the last two months, invested in a metronome, one of the best pieces of kit I own, has really improved my speed endurance and my general speed

To be fair my 400m TT is based on basically not swimming so form and fitness are out the window.

I'd measure more per 50m than per minute to be honest, around 38 strokes per 50m (in a 25 but not paying much attention to the kick off) (which at the moment isn't that much south of a minute)

I understand the desire to increase the stroke rate but my concern would be how you achieve the increase. If it is by moving the same about of water faster then fine, but if its my slipping through the water........

Green&Red

My issue up to this has just been a lack of speed, I dont have that sprint capability. I was happy enought this year that I was fresh coming out of the water, my biggest weakness being that my legs drop and that is helped with a wetsuit.
So I'm thinking increase the stroke rate and hopefully speed with maybe some loss of swim form and then go back and try and rectify that. Currently our swim sessions are split pretty much 50-50 between technique and speed/endurance work.

j0hn1

Name|Pool Length|Oct '13|Nov|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June'14
Green&Red|50m|6:48||||||||
Tunney|25m|7:04||||||||
Staggerlee|50m|6:55||||||||
Kurt Godel|25m|6:48||||||||
Stampydmonkey|25m|6:21||||||||
j0hn1|18m|8:07||||||||


Room for improvement anyway

blainj2

Name|Pool Length|Oct '13|Nov|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June'14
Green&Red|50m|6:48||||||||
Tunney|25m|7:04||||||||
Staggerlee|50m|6:55||||||||
Kurt Godel|25m|6:48||||||||
Stampydmonkey|25m|6:21||||||||
j0hn1|18m|8:07||||||||
blainj2|25m|6:43||||||||


This will easily be improved on as the lanes were busy and i had to wait a few times in between lengths.

Boardcore

Name|Pool Length|Oct '13|Nov|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June'14
Green&Red|50m|6:48||||||||
Tunney|25m|7:04||||||||
Staggerlee|50m|6:55||||||||
Kurt Godel|25m|6:48||||||||
Stampydmonkey|25m|6:21||||||||
j0hn1|18m|8:07||||||||
blainj2|25m|6:43||||||||
Boardcore|25m|6.38||||||||

Happy enough today, but felt stroke going to sh!t with about 150m to go. Goal - Sub6.

mistermatthew

Boardcore wrote: »

Name|Pool Length|Oct '13|Nov|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June'14
Green&Red|50m|6:48||||||||
Tunney|25m|7:04||||||||
Staggerlee|50m|6:55||||||||
Kurt Godel|25m|6:48||||||||
Stampydmonkey|25m|6:21||||||||
j0hn1|18m|8:07||||||||
blainj2|25m|6:43||||||||
Boardcore|25m|6.38||||||||

Happy enough today, but felt stroke going to sh!t with about 150m to go. Goal - Sub6.

Cyclist who did first tri last in august. Might get to the pool and try this for motivation. Although My times gonna be around 12mins (for real)

Bambaata

Does a wetsuit pool swim count? ;-) tried the suit in the outdoor pool here in lqnzarote this morning and couldnt believe the difference. Managed 05:27 for a steady effort, reckon id crack 5 in it if i went full wack. Never realised the benefit!!

blainj2

Bambaata wrote: »

Does a wetsuit pool swim count? ;-) tried the suit in the outdoor pool here in lqnzarote this morning and couldnt believe the difference. Managed 05:27 for a steady effort, reckon id crack 5 in it if i went full wack. Never realised the benefit!!

That time might demoralise the other people in the table myself included..

Kurt Godel

Bambaata wrote: »

Does a wetsuit pool swim count? ;-) tried the suit in the outdoor pool here in lqnzarote this morning and couldnt believe the difference. Managed 05:27 for a steady effort, reckon id crack 5 in it if i went full wack. Never realised the benefit!!

You have to go for it! It'll be interesting to refer against your non-wetsuit pool 400 time.

gerfmurphy

I average about 12.30 comfortably in 750mt sprints. Wetsuits are a god send for me.
Related;
400 pool time was always about 7.10 or so. I just a went sub seven this week (6.55)when I decided I should try kicking.

Not sure how to add to the table

Diamond_25

no!

Bambaata

Kurt Godel wrote: »

You have to go for it! It'll be interesting to refer against your non-wetsuit pool 400 time.

Unfortunately didnt have the time, had to get the suit dry to pack! I'll have to add to this soon though, dont wana lose my swim work this winter! Takes too long to return. Its funny, i dont know if id beat my old time but i feel i can get a much more solid longer swim out of me these days. I suppose i was aiming at 1900m and so that was the aim, feel like i can maintain good pace to that now

El Director

Name|Pool Length|Oct '13|Nov|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June'14
Green&Red|50m|6:48||||||||
Tunney|25m|7:04||||||||
Staggerlee|50m|6:55||||||||
Kurt Godel|25m|6:48||||||||
Stampydmonkey|25m|6:21||||||||
j0hn1|18m|8:07||||||||
blainj2|25m|6:43||||||||
Boardcore|25m|6.38||||||||
El Director|50m|7:12|||||||||


Well it's a start. Hopefully another 6-8 weeks and I can get back to were I was in June. The aim before next season is a sub 6 25m. Hopefully I can make a similar comment to Bambatta this time next year as I am aiming for 2 HIM attempts.

LaGlisse

Name|Pool Length|Oct '13|Nov|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June'14
Green&Red|50m|6:48||||||||
Tunney|25m|7:04||||||||
Staggerlee|50m|6:55||||||||
Kurt Godel|25m|6:48||||||||
Stampydmonkey|25m|6:21||||||||
j0hn1|18m|8:07||||||||
blainj2|25m|6:43||||||||
Boardcore|25m|6.38||||||||
El Director|50m|7:12|||||||||
La Glisse |25m| 5:58|||||||||

Same as my jul/aug times but hadnt been doing that much work since aug. Also unlike those times did this without my temp-trainer so pretty happy. Hope to go sub 5.30 and beyond this winter

shotgunmcos

Name|Pool Length|Oct '13|Nov|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June'14
Green&Red|50m|6:48||||||||
Tunney|25m|7:04||||||||
Staggerlee|50m|6:55||||||||
Kurt Godel|25m|6:48||||||||
Stampydmonkey|25m|6:21||||||||
j0hn1|18m|8:07||||||||
blainj2|25m|6:43||||||||
Boardcore|25m|6.38||||||||
El Director|50m|7:12|||||||||
La Glisse |25m| 5:58|||||||||
shotgunmcos|50m|6:08|||||||||


Have to start somewhere I guess...

BennyMul

Name|Pool Length|Oct '13|Nov|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June'14
Green&Red|50m|6:48||||||||
Tunney|25m|7:04||||||||
Staggerlee|50m|6:55||||||||
Kurt Godel|25m|6:48||||||||
Stampydmonkey|25m|6:21||||||||
j0hn1|18m|8:07||||||||
blainj2|25m|6:43||||||||
Boardcore|25m|6.38||||||||
El Director|50m|7:12|||||||||
La Glisse |25m| 5:58|||||||||
shotgunmcos|50m|6:08|||||||||
BennyMul|50m|9:20|||||||||



first time in the water in almost 7months, and drowned for 400m.

SlowMe

Name|Pool Length|Oct '13|Nov|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June'14
Green&Red|50m|6:48||||||||
Tunney|25m|7:04||||||||
Staggerlee|50m|6:55||||||||
Kurt Godel|25m|6:48||||||||
Stampydmonkey|25m|6:21||||||||
j0hn1|18m|8:07||||||||
blainj2|25m|6:43||||||||
Boardcore|25m|6.38||||||||
El Director|50m|7:12|||||||||
La Glisse |25m| 5:58|||||||||
shotgunmcos|50m|6:08|||||||||
BennyMul|50m|9:20|||||||||
SlowMe|25m|6:03|||||||||


might as well through my hat in - might get me doing this regularly hopefully. Delighted with that time but it'll be a challenge to improve on it! prob one of the best times I put in this year

shotgunmcos

Name|Pool Length|Oct '13|Nov|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June'14
Green&Red|50m|6:48||||||||
Tunney|25m|7:04||||||||
Staggerlee|50m|6:55||||||||
Kurt Godel|25m|6:48||||||||
Stampydmonkey|25m|6:21||||||||
j0hn1|18m|8:07||||||||
blainj2|25m|6:43||||||||
Boardcore|25m|6.38||||||||
El Director|50m|7:12|||||||||
La Glisse |25m| 5:58|||||||||
shotgunmcos|50m|6:08|||||||||
shotgunmcos|20m|5:34|||||||||
BennyMul|50m|9:20|||||||||
SlowMe|25m|6:03|||||||||

RJM85

Noob question... How do I add to the table?

gerfmurphy

RJM85 wrote: »

Noob question... How do I add to the table?

+1

stampydmonkey

gerfmurphy wrote: »

+1

• "Quote" the last post that has the table in it.
• Copy the last line of text in the table..in this case its SlowMe's line
• Paste the copied text into the line below SlowMe
• Edit the SlowMe's username and time in the pasted line, to your own details
• Delete the Quote text inc brackets at the start and end of the table....at the start delete [ QUOTE=XYZ ] & at the end delete [ /QUOTE ]
• Preview post to check and Submit if happy.

Hopefully that makes sense, although theres prob an easier way of doing it!

Bambaata

Quote the last post, remove the

at the top and [ /quote] at the bottom of the post otherwise the next person cant quote the table and then the easiest way to add is copy someone, hit return after the last person on the table, paste it on that new line before the [/table] and edit to your details - name, pool size, time under the applicable month (by counting the lines across)

Hope that makes sense.

Bambaata

stampydmonkey wrote: »

• "Quote" the last post that has the table in it.
• Copy the last line of text in the table..in this case its SlowMe's line
• Paste the copied text into the line below SlowMe
• Edit the SlowMe's username and time in the pasted line, to your own details
• Preview post to check and Submit if happy.

Hopefully that makes sense

Got there just before me and a hell of a lot clearer Dont forget to remove the old quote tabs though or the next person cannot quote the table

Oryx

Name|Pool Length|Oct '13|Nov|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June'14
Green&Red|50m|6:48||||||||
Tunney|25m|7:04||||||||
Staggerlee|50m|6:55||||||||
Kurt Godel|25m|6:48||||||||
Stampydmonkey|25m|6:21||||||||
j0hn1|18m|8:07||||||||
blainj2|25m|6:43||||||||
Boardcore|25m|6.38||||||||
El Director|50m|7:12|||||||||
La Glisse |25m| 5:58|||||||||
shotgunmcos|50m|6:08|||||||||
shotgunmcos|20m|5:34|||||||||
BennyMul|50m|9:20|||||||||
SlowMe|25m|6:03|||||||||
Oryx|25m|7:59|||||||||

gerfmurphy

Name|Pool Length|Oct '13|Nov|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June'14
Green&Red|50m|6:48||||||||
Tunney|25m|7:04||||||||
Staggerlee|50m|6:55||||||||
Kurt Godel|25m|6:48||||||||
Stampydmonkey|25m|6:21||||||||
j0hn1|18m|8:07||||||||
blainj2|25m|6:43||||||||
Boardcore|25m|6.38||||||||
El Director|50m|7:12|||||||||
La Glisse |25m| 5:58|||||||||
shotgunmcos|50m|6:08|||||||||
shotgunmcos|20m|5:34|||||||||
BennyMul|50m|9:20|||||||||
SlowMe|25m|6:03|||||||||
Oryx|25m|7:59|||||||||
ger murphy|25m|6.55|||||||||

first goal was to get sub 7, primary goal is to swim @1.30 or below