Massive jump in DOE test fees- RSA

ubs69 · 23-10-2013 4:58pm

Yepeeeeee just got my cert for the van, tested it on Monday got cert today ,very efficient service ,but cert is valid for 4 weeks :eek: how did they work that out ? Have I to go back in in 4 weeks to test it again ? What a joke .

Fred Swanson · 23-10-2013 5:11pm

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ubs69 · 23-10-2013 5:20pm

I don't know ill contact tax office tommorow,last doe was nov gone ,but I read some where I should get at least 6 months ,but why not a year if its a whole new system and new test :mad:

Fred Swanson · 23-10-2013 5:32pm

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Bpmull · 23-10-2013 6:11pm

ubs69 wrote: »

I don't know ill contact tax office tommorow,last doe was nov gone ,but I read some where I should get at least 6 months ,but why not a year if its a whole new system and new test :mad:

I got a year on my disc which I only got a week ago. Ring them and see what they say.

ubs69 · 23-10-2013 7:48pm

Bpmull wrote: »

I got a year on my disc which I only got a week ago. Ring them and see what they say.

When did your lat doe expire?

Bpmull · 23-10-2013 7:58pm

ubs69 wrote: »

When did your lat doe expire?

It was out about two weeks when I got it done as when I rang I couldn't get an appointment for nearly two weeks. I'd imagine 4 weeks is just a mistake unless your doe was out 11 months or something like that and even at that I assume there is some cut of value on the backing dating so that you get a minimum of a certain amount of months.

Fred Swanson · 23-10-2013 8:43pm

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Bpmull · 23-10-2013 8:59pm

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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I doubt it as my van was regd in February and I got a disc with 10-14 expiry.

Fred Swanson · 23-10-2013 9:04pm

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aaakev · 23-10-2013 10:16pm

Its now going by the date of your last test

demanufactured · 28-10-2013 10:47am

The whole thing is set up to stop dodgy test centers passing vehicles that shiuldnt pass...and doing retests where they are not needed.
the brown envelopes are no more.

Red Nissan · 28-10-2013 11:04am

demanufactured wrote: »

The whole thing is set up to stop dodgy test centers passing vehicles that shiuldnt pass...and doing retests where they are not needed. the brown envelopes are no more.

Can you substantiate this statement?

The system is EXACTLY the same as it was before, only the bureaucracy and department are different, some of the former staff are still doing the same job.

My own vehicle passed only this month and it had a brake pad so worn down that it was eating the brake disk. I was told the pads were worn down and I should change them, so I toddled off to my mechanic and one disk was more than half way cut through.

demanufactured · 28-10-2013 11:56am

Red Nissan wrote: »

Can you substantiate this statement?

The system is EXACTLY the same as it was before, only the bureaucracy and department are different, some of the former staff are still doing the same job.

My own vehicle passed only this month and it had a brake pad so worn down that it was eating the brake disk. I was told the pads were worn down and I should change them, so I toddled off to my mechanic and one disk was more than half way cut through.

If it passed on brake performance yhen it passed.
Your test center is obviously useless or dodgy.
on equipment tests there is no way for them to cheat the system anymore.
if the aoftware says it passed then it passed.
and same for a fail.

Red Nissan · 28-10-2013 12:09pm

demanufactured wrote: »

If it passed on brake performance yhen it passed.
Your test center is obviously useless or dodgy.
on equipment tests there is no way for them to cheat the system anymore.
if the aoftware says it passed then it passed.
and same for a fail.

Interesting. So a computer passed my vehicle but a roadside check would have failed it? Seems the whole thing has not been thought through.

demanufactured · 28-10-2013 1:22pm

Red Nissan wrote: »

Interesting. So a computer passed my vehicle but a roadside check would have failed it? Seems the whole thing has not been thought through.

No....the tester passed the visuals when they shouldn't have.

Fred Swanson · 30-10-2013 1:56pm

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Red Nissan · 30-10-2013 3:52pm

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Yes and no. The cert should be down very fast, in the event that it does not arrive quickly, three days after the test, one may Tax without the physical cert as it will be in the database for the Tax Office to see.

aaakev · 30-10-2013 6:45pm

Fred Swanson wrote: »

Do you have to wait for the cert in the post before you can get tax?

No, You can now tax online 24 hrs after the test so no more queing in the tax office for yas lads!

Fred Swanson · 30-10-2013 6:53pm

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aaakev · 30-10-2013 6:57pm

Your pin is the last 6 digits of your chassis no

Fred Swanson · 30-10-2013 7:00pm

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aaakev · 30-10-2013 7:30pm

You could be right, ill check in the morning when i go into the office and see what we have been told

Red Nissan · 30-10-2013 9:31pm

aaakev wrote: »

No, You can now tax online 24 hrs after the test so no more queing in the tax office for yas lads!

That's better again. Never really understood why a commercial vehicle owner or his agent had to turn up in person. And I know, had in the cert from the DOE and get another from the MTO, but still why?

Cleveland Hot Pocket · 31-10-2013 8:27am

aaakev wrote: »

No, You can now tax online 24 hrs after the test so no more queing in the tax office for yas lads!

Does that apply for first time taxing too, as in after you buy a (commercial)vehicle?

aaakev · 31-10-2013 9:03am

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

Does that apply for first time taxing too, as in after you buy a (commercial)vehicle?

No because you still need the "goods only" declaration for first time taxing of a new (to you) commercial vehicle

Cleveland Hot Pocket · 31-10-2013 9:07am

aaakev wrote: »

No because you still need the "goods only" declaration for first time taxing of a new (to you) commercial vehicle

That is ridiculous too - but that is another matter.
Ok thanks.

aaakev · 31-10-2013 9:09am

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

That is ridiculous too - but that is another matter.
Ok thanks.

Tell me about it! Anyone can make the declaration with any details ince the reg of the vehicle is correct.....

ubs69 · 31-10-2013 10:53am

Did anyone check out cvrt site ? Looks like you have to do 3 tests if your doe is out of date , what a load of bollocks

aaakev · 31-10-2013 11:11am

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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aaakev wrote: »

You could be right, ill check in the morning when i go into the office and see what we have been told

Spoke to the DOE manager in the garage here and he said you do not need a pin, just your reg. If your DOT test is not over one month out of date and there are no arrears owed for road tax you can tax online 24 hrs after the test. we have had feedback from several customers who said the new process is great, one of these customers has over 40 vehicles on the road so that's a huge amount of time saved each year, it could be over a week in total man hours lost for one employee doing the tax office run!

Fred Swanson · 31-10-2013 1:46pm

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aaakev · 31-10-2013 1:48pm

Fred Swanson wrote: »

That is what I gets when I attempt the online taxing.

Dont know what to tell ya Fred... When was your tax out and last doe out?

Fred Swanson · 31-10-2013 1:54pm

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cabb8ge · 31-10-2013 2:52pm

aaakev wrote: »

Tell me about it! Anyone can make the declaration with any details ince the reg of the vehicle is correct.....

Yes but many people would be not inclined to make false declaration and ask Garda to sign it. With goods only declaration that mean no personal use, only to and from home to work. Any other use intended and declaration is false. Some High horses I think upset over uninsured drivers but not against making false decalation for commercial tax, mind boggles

Scouserfan · 10-11-2013 12:39am

visual wrote: »

The test centres for DOE aren't as high teck as NCT

All equipment in commercial test centres are identical to nct including cameras. Nct is carried out by Spanish company called applus. 45 nct centres, 140 cvrt commercial centres. 8 times more cars on road than commercials. Nct is a monopoly, but too many covet centres in country

Fred Swanson · 10-11-2013 12:50am

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Scouserfan · 10-11-2013 12:55am

Fred Swanson wrote: »

Despite the numbers of CVRT centres, it still takes weeks to get a test.

We get same and next day appointments at our local centre. Nobber Motors in meath

aaakev · 10-11-2013 1:00am

Fred Swanson wrote: »

Despite the numbers of CVRT centres, it still takes weeks to get a test.

Where are you based??! We test about 7,000 vehicles a year and you can normally get a test within 2 or 3 days! Alit of the time we can fit you in next day at a push....

Fred Swanson · 10-11-2013 1:01am

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aaakev · 10-11-2013 1:06am

Id say thr has to do with the new tax system too so people who were fusdling the systen or letting vans sit are now doing the test because they have to.... Reckon it will calm down in a few weeks

Setec · 13-02-2014 10:18am

Got a test organised for next week in the next town over. My local test centre is nearly a 5 weeks waiting list!

Red Nissan · 13-02-2014 11:13am

Setec wrote: »

Got a test organised for next week in the next town over. My local test centre is nearly a 5 weeks waiting list!

I go out of town too, a county centre will fit me in anytime if I don't mind waiting. I can make an appointment in the morning for the same afternoon.

It's been like that for over ten years after a Cork centre 'booked me in' for 9 AM and told me to come back at six that evening, got the test done out of town, same day and I had virtually no waiting time.

ballbag05 · 25-02-2014 1:45pm

Where's best place in Cork city area for a doe test, feel like I'm being ripped off in Dennehys Careigtwohill

Fred Swanson · 25-02-2014 1:47pm

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ballbag05 · 25-02-2014 1:51pm

Fred Swanson wrote: »

They all charge the same statutory fees. €111 for the test and €43.50 for a retest.

It's that they always fail it and make me retake it is the ripping off factor

Cleveland Hot Pocket · 25-02-2014 1:53pm

ballbag05 wrote: »

It's that they always fail it and make me retake it is the ripping off factor

The condition of your vehicle does that

Red Nissan · 25-02-2014 2:05pm

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

The condition of your vehicle does that

No it may not. One would think that, but some centres have reputations, some fails pass in other centres.

Over time one gets experience and word of mouth will impart wisdom.

Fred Swanson · 25-02-2014 2:09pm

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Cleveland Hot Pocket · 25-02-2014 2:09pm

Red Nissan wrote: »

No it may not. One would think that, but some centres have reputations, some fails pass in other centres.

Over time one gets experience and word of mouth will impart wisdom.

But a fully working truck will always pass.

mickdw · 25-02-2014 5:29pm

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

But a fully working truck will always pass.

Yes but it's obvious there are matters of opinion that can result in pass or fail and like it or not, test centres differ. Locally, one centre is attached to a sales and servicing outlet and they tend to fail very slight wear items to the point where Toyota main dealer passed fit what the tester failed.

Massive jump in DOE test fees- RSA

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