Time to stand up against the silly southern Irish gun laws?

bizmark

Gta 5 taught me the best defence against guns is a knee high wall my house is now 95% knee high walls so have as many guns as you want i don't care

IRLConor

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

AR-15 rifles.

In fairness, there are already some AR-15 and similar rifles licensed in Ireland. Not a lot, but some.

humanji

"That board with a nail in it may have defeated us, but the humans won't stop there. They'll make bigger boards and bigger nails, and soon, they will make a board with a nail so big, it will destroy them all!"

SoulandForm

IRLConor wrote: »

There are lots of legally held semi-automatic rifles, pistols and shotguns in this country.

I own a rifle and while I think there are many serious issues with our licensing system allowing people to get firearms for self-defence will not solve anything.

You have to come up with all manner of justification in order to get near a chance of getting one unless you are in the "know"- the fact is that the Free State's gun control laws are even worse the UK's (if that were possible) and effectively disarm the majority of the civilian population.

This is a class issue and its disgusting that the ULA, Sinn Fein and the Labour Party who are supposed to represent the masses are silent on it.

The_Valeyard

THEY TUK YUR GUUUNNNNSSSS

djflawless

SoulandForm wrote: »

Its illegal for any normal Irish citizen to buy a serious automatic or semi-automatic weapon.

This is where your wrong.its LEGAL to own a semi auto weapon in ireland.
I have had a semi auto shotgun and rifle in my name legally

IRLConor

SoulandForm wrote: »

You have to come up with all manner of justification in order to get near a chance of getting one unless you are in the "know"- the fact is that the Free State's gun control laws are even worse the UK's (if that were possible) and effectively disarm the majority of the civilian population.

This is a class issue and its disgusting that the ULA, Sinn Fein and the Labour Party who are supposed to represent the masses are silent on it.

Absolute nonsense. You have to come up with reasonable justification (why do you want a semi-auto pistol? because I compete in shooting competitions where they're used. etc.) and there are people from all economic backgrounds with legally held semi-auto firearms.

SoulandForm

djflawless wrote: »

This is where your wrong.its LEGAL to own a semi auto weapon in ireland.
I have had a semi auto shotgun and rifle in my name legally

I meant a serious one like an AK 47.

bizmark

SoulandForm wrote: »

You have to come up with all manner of justification in order to get near a chance of getting one unless you are in the "know"- the fact is that the Free State's gun control laws are even worse the UK's (if that were possible) and effectively disarm the majority of the civilian population.

This is a class issue and its disgusting that the ULA, Sinn Fein and the Labour Party who are supposed to represent the masses are silent on it.

The free state ? is this a troll

IRLConor

SoulandForm wrote: »

I meant a serious one like an AK 47.

AK-47 full auto? Not legal here.
AK-47 clone, semi-auto? Totally legal (but pointless) here.

Savoir.Faire

No, no, I have to disagree with you OP. Having licenced guns for hunting purposes, or culling badgers, is fine but I don't agree with arming the proles.

A man wouldn't feel safe anywhere if every Joe Soap was armed to the teeth with handguns and semi automatic assauly rifles.

Terrible idea and one, I hope, never sees the light of day.

SoulandForm

IRLConor wrote: »

Absolute nonsense. You have to come up with reasonable justification (why do you want a semi-auto pistol? because I compete in shooting competitions where they're used. etc.) and there are people from all economic backgrounds with legally held semi-auto firearms.

Do you think the authorities would accept defending my civil and religious liberty as a reasonable explanation?

Benny_Cake

bizmark wrote: »

Gta 5 taught me the best defence against guns is a knee high wall my house is now 95% knee high walls so have as many guns as you want i don't care

Yeah, and if the guards see you firing your weapon, just duck down an alleyway. They usually forget about gun deaths after 45 seconds or so.

4zn76tysfajdxp

Nothing prevents gun crime like looser gun ownership laws.

SoulandForm

bizmark wrote: »

The free state ? is this a troll

I dont consider the puppet regime in the 26 counties the Irish Republic but that does not a troll make.

IRLConor

SoulandForm wrote: »

Do you think the authorities would accept defending my civil and religious liberty as a reasonable explanation?

No, it's not a legitimate reason, either in law or in the mind of any non-crackpot.

humanji

SoulandForm wrote: »

Do you think the authorities would accept defending my civil and religious liberty as a reasonable explanation?

How are you going to defend your religious liberty with a gun?

SoulandForm wrote: »

I dont consider the puppet regime in the 26 counties the Irish Republic but that does not a troll make.

So you're against democracy? Probably best you don't have a gun, then. We don't need a militia of Freemen. *shudder*

bizmark

SoulandForm wrote: »

I dont consider the puppet regime in the 26 counties the Irish Republic but that does not a troll make.

What do you consider it then ? and why is it a "puppet regime"

made you sounds like you want to retreat to the hills and broadcast conspiracy theory's on a short wave radio surronded by fully auto wapons incase the puppet regiem stages a waco on you tbh

SoulandForm

Benny_Cake wrote: »

Yeah, and if the guards see you firing your weapon, just duck down an alleyway. They usually forget about gun deaths after 45 seconds or so.

There is already a massive gun crime problem in Dublin as there is in parts of the UK- the problem is that criminals have all the guns not the ordinary working person. The states with the strictest gun control laws also have the highest gun crime rates-funny that.

Gun control is forbidden by the Bible as the mod of the Christianity you might like to recall that fact.

yoyo

Fr D Maugire wrote: »

Is it not obvious??? In countries like the US where there is looser gun control, violent crime is at a much lower level and people feel more secure in their own homes due to the fact they can own a nice semi-automatic gun. Think of all those people here in Ireland who are living in fear on a daily basis.

I think it's the reverse tbh. Violent crime less in the US? Every single shooting in Ireland (which is mostly gangland related, so generally doesn't effect the "normal" population) is generally mentioned in the news. It only seems to be the mass shootings that are reported over there as shootings are so common. When was there ever a mass shooting ala Columbine, Sandy Hook, Aurora etc. in Ireland?
I know someone who was over in Las Vegas on holidays and witnessed a rapper being killed in a drive by shooting (yes right outside a hotel!!). What was worse was in the commotion another tourist was also killed when the taxi they were in crashed in the panic. They are not in a rush back to America as you could imagine..
Guns should be restricted to those that need them, and our gun laws are fine as it is...

Nick

djflawless

SoulandForm wrote: »

I meant a serious one like an AK 47.

All guns are serious to be fair

"why did you shoot him??"
"ah sure twas only a shotgun.not a 'serious gun'

A gun in the wrong hands is a licence to kill.simple as.
People that have guns legally, have them because they are deemed mentally,physically and socially safe to do so

So why change it??
If you want to protect yourself go buy a baseball bat or a hurl and save yer few shillings.
And leave guns to us who use them for our livelyhood

Insect Overlord

SoulandForm wrote: »

I meant a serious one like an AK 47.

Are you totally and utterly insane?

Benny_Cake

SoulandForm wrote: »

There is already a massive gun crime problem in Dublin as there is in parts of the UK- the problem is that criminals have all the guns not the ordinary working person. The states with the strictest gun control laws also have the highest gun crime rates-funny that.

Gun control is forbidden by the Bible as the mod of the Christianity you might like to recall that fact.

Really? I'll tell the Amish to head down to the sporting goods store then.

SoulandForm

Fr D Maugire wrote: »

Is it not obvious??? In countries like the US where there is looser gun control, violent crime is at a much lower level and people feel more secure in their own homes due to the fact they can own a nice semi-automatic gun. Think of all those people here in Ireland who are living in fear on a daily basis.

With people owning guns, crime will whither away as everybody fears a gun pointed at them.

God Bless you Father.

Insect Overlord

Fr D Maugire wrote: »

Is it not obvious??? In countries like the US where there is looser gun control, violent crime is at a much lower level and people feel more secure in their own homes due to the fact they can own a nice semi-automatic gun. Think of all those people here in Ireland who are living in fear on a daily basis.

With people owning guns, crime will whither away as everybody fears a gun pointed at them.

Paxton Nutritious Stroller wrote: »

Nothing prevents gun crime like looser gun ownership laws.

I love the fact that the irony of these posts has totally flown over the OP's head.

SoulandForm

Benny_Cake wrote: »

Really? I'll tell the Amish to head down to the sporting goods store then.

Well the Amish are not quite the Quakers who have drifted off from Christianity to drown their souls in vile swamps of their own imagination they are hardly mainline Christians (their opposition to infant Baptism for one). In the Old Testament all Israelites were expected to be armed- and remember that Christ Himself told His Apostles to buy swords. This is also linked to the prophetic attacks on standing army and opposition to absolute authority of human states.

In my opinion we should abolish the IDF and the Gardai and replace them with Citizen Defense committees.

hansfrei

Yes for Europe
Yes for jobs
Yes for gun control

Menas

SoulandForm wrote: »

I dont consider the puppet regime in the 26 counties the Irish Republic but that does not a troll make.

How can you poll to change the laws of a state that you do not recognise?

bizmark

Trigger Happy wrote: »

How can you poll to change the laws of a state that you do not recognise?

Ak 47's obviously

jill_valentine

WTF....