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School Sexism

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭pharmaton


    ok, I didn't really, there was quite a few around campus cause there was training on so I just walked through past dorms and over to sports pitches, I did keep an eye out for various areas that could hold a poster or two without causing too much upset in the future though. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 296 ✭✭LOTD


    1shot16 wrote: »
    no not really... like every other 16 year lad old more interested in guns or cars and women...

    Damn thug life ain't easy son.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    I have questions, I have questions...!

    What house did the Sorting Hat put you in?
    Is Hermione a goer?
    What's Dumbledore like really?
    ...and of course is there really a troll in the dungeon? ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 Mr. D


    Hi,

    And you thought you were raising an issue amongst interested fellow posters, instead landing in a pit of hilarious comedians! And gosh, how droll they are, wouldn't you agree? Think of the time they spent dreaming up those quick-witted yet incisive replies. How I laughed and laughed.

    Since I won't attempt to compete with the professionals, I won't try to be funny. But as for your question, could I suggest you get a hold of copies of the school's rules and other policies -- anything that documents the sexism you perceive -- and go through them noting whatever you consider sexist. All schools in the country must now have these policies in an accessible form.

    Then contact the Equality Authority. They will either help/advise you directly, or else suggest to you where to go next. Good luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭stefan idiot jones


    This is After Hours, no ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭H3llR4iser


    Welcome to the real world, op. It was the same when I was in school a couple of decades ago - girls were allowed things we weren't because everyone seems to think that "girls are better behaved". Mind you I'm talking about a different country, so you know what the extent of the phenomena is.

    Get used to it, this won't end with school. As a man, you will be tagged as a "player", immature, possibly called a b@astard repeatedly with no real reason, frisked randomly in public places "just because"; And goodness forbids, you can't be trusted around children - the idea will be that you're either a juvenile idiot that will mess up with them or simply a pedophile.

    In all fairness, this kind of sexism goes both ways - the assumption is that women will "behave" just because they're women; as if they'd be incapable of free will and critical thinking, just following the "program" nature imposed on them. As you see, the other side of the garden ain't greener - quite the contrary, actually.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    H3llR4iser wrote: »
    Welcome to the real world, op. It was the same when I was in school a couple of decades ago - girls were allowed things we weren't because everyone seems to think that "girls are better behaved". Mind you I'm talking about a different country, so you know what the extent of the phenomena is.

    Get used to it, this won't end with school. As a man, you will be tagged as a "player", immature, possibly called a b@astard repeatedly with no real reason, frisked randomly in public places "just because"; And goodness forbids, you can't be trusted around children - the idea will be that you're either a juvenile idiot that will mess up with them or simply a pedophile.

    In all fairness, this kind of sexism goes both ways - the assumption is that women will "behave" just because they're women; as if they'd be incapable of free will and critical thinking, just following the "program" nature imposed on them. As you see, the other side of the garden ain't greener - quite the contrary, actually.

    I'm a forty-something property-owning middle-class white male. Everybody thinks I'm brilliant no matter how big a prick I am. It's fan-tastic. :cool::cool::cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭who the fug


    andyman wrote: »
    I think the phone situation, sexist or not, is a disgrace. What if something happens in the boys dorms and none of them has a phone to call emergency services? They'd have to find a prefect/whatever they're called (I never went to boarding school, so excuse my terminology), they'd have to go down to the room to ensure it's not a hoax and that ****'s getting real and by the time he does that, 1 minute - 90 seconds could have elapsed from the moment the incident happened.

    How is a child supposed to get in touch with his family? That's an absolute shambles and something should really be done about it.

    Sweet suffering Jesus how the fook do you think we survived before the blasted mobile phone, rules are in place to stop the buggers burning the place down or blowing it up and boarders knows more than one way in or out (trouble was the blasted teachers had been there longer so knew them all )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭stefan idiot jones


    I really think we should organise an escape committee to free this poor tortured soul from the oppressors.

    Solidarity Brother.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭who the fug


    I really think we should organise an escape committee to free this poor tortured soul from the oppressors.

    Solidarity Brother.

    Think poster should avail of the day release policy available


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭pharmaton


    H3llR4iser wrote: »

    As you see, the other side of the garden ain't greener - quite the contrary, actually.
    to be fair though the grass is quite lush over there, the faux hockey pitches are particularly fluorescent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭Tiddlypeeps


    OP you are in the unfortunate position of being a minor so you are going to have a really tough time getting anybody to take you seriously.

    What I would recommend you do is organise a meeting with all the male borders. If everyone agrees that this rule is bad and should be done away with then you should be able to come up with a plan to combat it. As a form of protest you could let the headmaster know that the boys will no longer be handing over their phones/sim cards. As long as everyone sticks together and nobody hands over their phones/sim cards then they can't suspend/expel everyone.

    Be warned tho, one possible outcome of this is that phones/sim cards will be banned for everyone since the issue is with the sexism and not with the lack of access to phones.

    We did something like this when I was in school. Girls all had to wear skirts, and the heating the school was pretty crappy so in the height of winter it was bloody cold. We wanted to wear pants like the boys and the school was having none of it. We organised protest days where all girls would wear pants into school. Nobody was punished because they can't give everyone detention or suspend them. Eventually it became policy that girls could wear pants if they want to.

    Neither the issue I faced or the issue you face are particularly serious, but they do reinforce at a young age to all children that men and women are to be treated differently. Children aren't born sexist, it's something that they learn as they grow. So obviously anything that removes that influence is going to be good.

    You can't do much about the girls having access to their dorms, that's their battle to fight. If they see the boys being successful with the mobile phones tho it may encourage them to follow suit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    ...Be warned tho....

    Be careful with comparisons like this - it'll be a lot easier to just drop in a blanket-ban on mobiles than it would've been to make the boys wear skirts as well! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭Tiddlypeeps


    jimgoose wrote: »
    Be careful with comparisons like this - it'll be a lot easier to just drop in a blanket-ban on mobiles than it would've been to make the boys wear skirts as well! :D

    I have no idea what you are trying to say here.


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