Chemtrails debunked.

Daithi 1

Yeah, theyre a good read. Different style of reporting those days.

pfurey101

Errrrrr, there are flights over Ireland everyday and no contrails the last few days. I thought It was because of the atmospheric conditions - but I guess all these pilots from all over the world that were flying over Ireland were told to turn off their Chemtrailulatory devices.

weisses

pfurey101 wrote: »

but I guess all these pilots from all over the world that were flying over Ireland were told to turn off their Chemtrailulatory devices.

Didn't you get the memo ??

Daithi 1

They've been sent to Pennsylvania :mad:

pfurey101

Daithi 1 wrote: »

They've been sent to Pennsylvania :mad:

Goddammmmmit - the Muricans get everything.

Oh dear, its gone all cloudy now - this means that all pilots from all airline 600 or 700 flights over Ireland today will re-engage the *CDU and no one will ever know. The 1,200 to 1,400 flight crew certainly won't be telling :eek:

*Chemtrailulatory Device Unit

Daithi 1

Old movies edited to normalise chems....

Daithi 1

They are now disguising chemwebs as spiderwebs. Look up ! and look down !!!!


.

Daithi 1

It's only a matter of time before some of these guys kill a bunch of folks.. :eek:

pfurey101

Daithi 1 wrote: »

It's only a matter of time before some of these guys kill a bunch of folks.. :eek:

Are normal people allowed to LIKE and are we accepted if we point out the obvious?

Or is it best to leave them alone?

Daithi 1

pfurey101 wrote: »

Are normal people allowed to LIKE and are we accepted if we point out the obvious?

Or is it best to leave them alone?

See for yourself

https://www.facebook.com/pages/CHEM-Trail-CHEMtrail/132660870130508

pfurey101

Daithi 1 wrote: »

See for yourself

https://www.facebook.com/pages/CHEM-Trail-CHEMtrail/132660870130508

Oh god! Best leave them on their own :eek:

Daithi 1

Heres the other leader again..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deKQEa3MAuE

Heathen

Fact!!

http://dailybelch.com/2013/11/19/latest-leaked-cables-confirm-the-existence-of-chemtrail-weather-manipulation/

shanered

Can't believe some of those people own guns and are comtemplating shooting at planes:eek:

Daithi 1

shanered wrote: »

Can't believe some of those people own guns and are comtemplating shooting at planes:eek:

I presume this type of thing is why the U.S government have dubbed "truthers" as "potential terrorists".

Daithi 1

This comment :



In response to this video, the biggest load of horsesh!t I have ever heard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqATQtwOY34

returnNull

Daithi 1 wrote: »

This comment :

brain dead fuktards...I know its probably all muppets just mouthing off but shooting down a plane so you can have alllegedly cleaner air but ignoring the 200+passengers on the plane and possible risk of casualities on the ground does not compute!

Daithi 1

returnNull wrote: »

brain dead fuktards...I know its probably all muppets just mouthing off but shooting down a plane so you can have alllegedly cleaner air but ignoring the 200+passengers on the plane and possible risk of casualities on the ground does not compute!

I presume they think there are no passengers, just barrels full of chemtrails. (Ballasts of water)

pfurey101

Daithi 1 wrote: »

This comment :



In response to this video, the biggest load of horsesh!t I have ever heard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqATQtwOY34

I guess they are not used to cloudy spells in Atlanta. Silly,silly man with a silly, silly post.

pfurey101

Edit

Daithi 1

Are these wind turbines spraying poisonous chemicals ?

Persisting contrails ! no chemicals required.



http://wiley-vch.e-bookshelf.de/products/reading-epub/product-id/629503/title/Wind%2BResource%2BAssessment.html

Daithi 1

What in the world are they spraying test results shown to be fraudulent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol6t0v6xjZE

Daithi 1

Daithi 1 wrote: »

This comment :



In response to this video, the biggest load of horsesh!t I have ever heard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqATQtwOY34

He should more to Ireland. Here it's possible to "Not See the SUN" for 300 days a year...........(this on excepted of course).

oops "one".

Daithi 1

Even motor exhaust contrail can persist in the right conditions.

pfurey101

Don't tell them about the B17's in WW2



Is that a good or bad thing for those poor chaps??

Daithi 1

pfurey101 wrote: »

Don't tell them about the B17's in WW2



Is that a good or bad thing for those poor chaps??

They will say they were early chem tests. Like this..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO89KAJGkL8

Daithi 1

It was a dirty business back then, chemtrailling your own people while you were dogfighting the enemy. How they could battle in the air while carrying all these chemical weapons on board..

pfurey101

Good point Daithi 1 - so who actually bombed the Germans?

Wait a minute, it was only a few years later when an alien ship crashed in Roswell......maybe, just maybe?????

Next door neighbour was out on the ride on mower......
He is spreading it everywhere................:P

Daithi 1

returnNull

chemtards...love it:pac:

Daithi 1

Rosalind Peterson, founder of California Skywatch, says there's no evidence that those trails in the sky are anything other than normal contrails, aircraft emissions.

Changed her mind .. :eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOXt0BTOTN0

Daithi 1

This is the original unadulterated video that started all the fuss. It is completely authentic and no camera tricks were used. It is simply a couple of KC-10's in formation and the audio you hear is just us poking fun at all the "chemtrail" conspiratorists. I knew when I shot the video that this would be catnip for all the conspiratorists out there. Yeah, the contrails have an odd way of "starting" and "stopping" but that is easily explained with physics. It's no different than the lenticular clouds that form over a mountain or the fog that flows from an open freezer. So, stop being so gullible, kids. There are truely bad things in the world but this isn't one of them!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t22wy4c-A-A

Here is what chemmies went crazy over..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSSWnXQsgOU

Daithi 1

On May 24th, 2011 We Are Change Calgary met with David Keith professor of Earth Sciences at University of Calgary, who was featured in the film "What in the World are They Spraying" outlining proposals for aerosol spraying programs that may use alumina particles to reflect the sun to help combat "Global Warming." David Keith has stated he has not seen the film and that he would not want to see it because the producer is biased in his opinion and built the evidence around the conclusion and not the other way around.

The meeting was attended by about 10 We Are Change Calgary members, and David Keith and his Assistants Hollie Roberts and Ashley Mercer (who works on public perception of geo-engineering) . David Keith has always denied that Chemtrail spraying operations are ongoing, while promoting Geo-engineering "proposals". We must remember that in a CFR meeting it was stated that there were Tens of Millions spent on confusing the public about Geo-engineering.

One of Davids main arguments in the meeting is, if there was a large scale chemtrail program that we would have to know about it. He states the paper trail would simply be too large, and there would be too many employees that would blow the whistle. We know this is simply not true because there have been countless large scale military operations that have been completely secret and confidential.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SFVYRZPXLs

Daithi 1

A typical conversation with a real chemnut..

Daithi 1

Delusional loonatic Max Bliss again. CHEMWEBS no less.

Also known as spider webs from ballooning or kiting spiders. Documented since 1670.

http://www.european-arachnology.org/proceedings/17th/23Duffey.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYI67g8YRUo

Daithi 1

HOW TO RUN A CONTRAIL
SCARE FOR FUN AND PROFIT
by Jay Reynolds

Before commencing on this enterprise, make sure you have the "enterprise" set up, after all, you are doing this for money, aren't you? Yes, you must have a sales network all set up in advance, ready for your marks to "buy into" as soon as you begin. There are many items you can sell, including books, videos, T-shirts, and vitamins which you can honestly say have protected you from "chemtrail fallout." After all, you know they really are just water vapor anyway.

Once the set up is all "set up", you'll have to steel yourself, because what you are about to do is mislead and deceive people, and it is difficult to do this if you aren't really a psychopathic liar.


If you're not able to speak clearly, with a straight face, while lying through your teeth, and sound just as sincere as a preacher, you had better just stop right now, because the strain on most normal people is too great.

No matter what you do, some smartalec will come along and find the details you forgot, and try to spoil the whole thing, it never fails. Accordingly, you've got to learn the number one rule that anyone contemplating a chemtrail scare should make sure is covered:

NEVER SHOW ANY REAL EVIDENCE AT ALL, NEVER, NOT EVER, (this way, anything you create out of thin air, exaggerate, or omit can't be scrutinized)

Portray all your evidence as "preliminary," as "dangerous," and as something "big,"
a "national emergency," but NEVER ACTUALLY SHOW ANY EVIDENCE!!!!!!
(remember, you don't really have to have any)

Most people will be completely satisfied with this approach, especially the people you really want on your side. You see, you don't really want people who need proof. Yes, that's right. The name "con-man" is a shortened form of "confidence-man." The "marks" you are seeking are not the ones who require real evidence. You don't want them at all. You are trying to form a cadre of "true believers" who do what they are told, believe what they are told, and repeat it as quickly as they are told, whatever they are told. You want a big crew of gullible yes-men, rumormongers, and loudmouths, because they will end up doing 99% of all your work for you, while you sit back and watch with glee.

Where to find the people you need

The people you need are people who have these attributes:

-They believe whatever they are told, and don't need proof of anything. This is paramount, because critical thinking is the one thing that can kill your ploy.

-They respond and are motivated by fear, not to discover anything, but to run around screaming,
"The sky is falling!!" in as many places as possible. Remember, you don't want people to think, you want them to remain in ignorance, and fear is one of the best paralyzers of reason, so always seek to make the whole thing as scary as possible, and instill enough fear in your followers that they'll just leave it up to you, being too fearful to look more closely.

-They have a belief that some things are unexplainable, that paranormal events and magic really do exist. These people will believe practically anything already, they come tailor made for you and your purposes.

-That are already physically ill, are predisposed to illness, or know someone who is, especially people who don't go to doctors because they don't trust them, and whose illnesses thus drag on and continue undiagnosed. These people can then be trotted out and displayed as "sufferers" whenever you need a "victim." This tactic is one of the best, because any scoffers can then be portrayed as "inhuman."

-The people who already fear any kind of technology, and do not understand scientific terminology are ripe for your exploitation, keep them dependent on you for information in pre-digested form, they will most likely just accept whatever you tell them. You're not going to tell them much anyway, especially if it might refute your play, because this will encourage them to begin seeking knowledge on their own.

What to say, where, and when

After choosing your audience carefully, format your story to best satisfy the objectives outlined above, remembering always to NEVER SHOW ANY EVIDENCE, NO NOT EVER(that way, you really don't have to have any).

Your prime weapon is fear, your prime target those most vulnerable to fear and paralyzation, thus the harder you can hype any aspect to promote fear the better. The following can be used to your advantage:

- Normal contrails are most often seen during the cooler parts of the year, especially October through springtime and thankfully for your cause, the cold and flu season coincides with this time period, so any normal illness at that time can certainly be said to be "possibly" caused by chemtrails.

- ANY other illness can be used likewise, remember YOU WILL NEVER SHOW ANY EVIDENCE ANYWAY, right? So all illness is fair game, bring in meningitis, lupus, any allergies, boils, asthma, emphysema, strep, and just about anything else. Don't forget, there are numerous hypochondriacs who will willingly discuss all sorts of complaints who just need a sympathetic audience, encourage their stories, you will be amazed at how sad they can be, and how much they will speculate, extending the fear into all sorts of unlikely places.

- Keep your possibilities open, WiiiiiiiDE open, don't just settle on illness, or you will be missing out on so many other popular ideas. Don't forget, there is always the idea that *somebody* wants to kill a lot of people, that *somebody* wants to change the weather, that *somebody* wants to do almost anything. What you must do is keep it vague enough and there will be droves of people
who will think up more outrageous ideas than you could even imagine. Remember, they will do 99% of the work for you if you just set the stage. You will be amazed, earthquakes, comets, droughts, floods, storms, even plane crashes will become part of the legend you can help create, mold, guide and develop.

- Use the media, use it, use it, abuse it. Use the most credible sources first, before they catch on, of course, the mainstream press will see right through what you are trying to do, they at least have
to make some money after the whole thing blows off. Pick at least one media outlet that has some credibility as an opener, the best you can find. Of course, eventually, they will catch on, so then you just go down the line, and don't forget the late night shows like Art Bell, he will promote anything and has millions of gullible insomniacs ready for their latest adrenaline fix. Actually, these hosts know that people are most vulnerable when they are in a semi-somnolent state, and are sometimes almost taken to the point of being hypnotized.

- The Internet is your prime stomping ground, and can distribute the most outrageous stuff imaginable, so just imagine it! What you will definitely need are lots of websites that can post pictures. Visual stimuli are necessary to promote Mass Sociogenic Illness, and it is imperative that these images get implanted in the most sinister way possible. It doesn't matter if they are normal contrails or not, it doesn't matter if planes are visible or not, each and every contrail picture is a possible chemtrail, in fact, you really shouldn't talk about what normal contrails are if you can avoid it at all costs, just call them all chemtrails and soon everybody else will too. Almost all contrails will eventually be considered chemtrails after a time. These websites are your greatest tools, and the nice thing is that you can get other people to run them and set them up for you, they will be begging to do it, or just do it anyway.

- While we're on the subject of websites, you can help promote fear by suggesting that people write their congressman, government agencies, and the military. These people and agencies will then visit the sites, and their visits can be construed as "inordinate interest" and be hyped as real evidence that "something big" is going on. These public servants do realize they shouldn't insult the people they work for, and will do everything they can short of telling the correspondents they are nuts, or being lied to, they know darn well nobody wants to hear that. Some of them will see these contacts as so silly they may not respond, and that is your cue to state that "something big" must really be going on, because they are "afraid to respond" or "they are stonewalling."

- There might come a time when one does respond and categorically deny all existence of chemtrails. Search carefully for anything said that supports your idea, but NEVER discuss anything at all that refutes anything you say. Remember, NEVER DISCUSS THE EVIDENCE THAT REFUTES YOUR STORY, you must be the filter, and you must keep people dependent on you for "information."

Here come the critics

If you're lucky, critics, skeptics, and debunkers will just dismiss what you say and go on, but you may not be so lucky, and they will have to be dealt with eventually. These people, if dealt with directly, can be the real pox, so just ignore them if at all possible. If fact, you must remember that YOU are in control, you just don't have anything to say to these people at all. Arguing with them will get you nowhere, and since there is no evidence to show, there is no evidence to discuss.

Remember rule numero uno: (THERE IS NO EVIDENCE, SO YOU NEVER WILL HAVE TO SHOW ANY)

Now, sooner or later, someone will ask for proof anyway, so here are some tips on how to handle the eventuality:

-Acting very sincere, state that you "really aren't sure what is going on," but say that you have been getting hundreds, or thousands of reports from "people all over the country," who say they are seeing all kinds of chemtrails. This pits the critics not against you, but against unknown and unknowable hordes of people, and puts you as just the reporter of these "facts." Remember, these people can't be expected to reveal their identity, and you have hyped the fear level so high, they probably never will, so none of it can ever really be checked out anyway.

-Portray any references, even incorrect or tangential ones as "facts," everything else you can as "evidence," all speculation as "hypothesis," and all rumors as "possibilities," after all, anything is possible, right?

-Do your utmost best to remain aloof from the critics, whenever possible, do not engage them in debate or respond at all. Since they are right, to respond is death. They can be your worst nightmare.

-Since skeptics will show up wherever you are, unfortunately you will not be able to participate in open forums and can only use media sources that are "friendlies", as mentioned above.

The Bottom Line

Eventually, either too many people will catch on(time has a way of eliciting the truth), or sales may decline to the point where this play becomes a waste of time.
An exit strategy will have to be mapped out, or else one's reputation may be irretrievably damaged. One suggestion would be to simply connect this scam to the next one. For instance, another conspiracy theory could be linked to the chemtrails, then a gradual easing out could be possible towards the new play. Fortunately, your followers, at least the "true believers", will probably not even notice that contrails continue to be produced as before.

Good luck.
You'll need it.

Torakx

Ha! that was written by the CIA to throw me off the truth.

Daithi 1

No.

AIRLINE pilots fear their jumbos could be shot down by conspiracy theorists who believe they are being poisoned by commercial aircraft.

The conspiracy theorists are part of a global "chemtrail" movement that claims jets are spraying toxic chemicals over heavily-populated towns and cities around the world.

"Threats to shoot down aircraft or harming pilots are becoming more prevalent, overt and alarming," says Mike Glynn, a current airline captain and former vice-president of the Australian and International Pilots Association.





http://www.theaustralian.com.au/travel/jet-pilots-fear-chemtrail-attacks/story-e6frg8rf-1226508708721

pfurey101

Daithi 1 wrote: »

No.

AIRLINE pilots fear their jumbos could be shot down by conspiracy theorists who believe they are being poisoned by commercial aircraft.

The conspiracy theorists are part of a global "chemtrail" movement that claims jets are spraying toxic chemicals over heavily-populated towns and cities around the world.

"Threats to shoot down aircraft or harming pilots are becoming more prevalent, overt and alarming," says Mike Glynn, a current airline captain and former vice-president of the Australian and International Pilots Association.





http://www.theaustralian.com.au/travel/jet-pilots-fear-chemtrail-attacks/story-e6frg8rf-1226508708721

""While most can be discounted as empty threats, there remains the possibility that some unhinged individual or group may act. "

I'd bust me gut over that description except that there are far too many misguided chemtards out there :eek:

Daithi 1

pfurey101 wrote: »

""While most can be discounted as empty threats, there remains the possibility that some unhinged individual or group may act. "

I'd bust me gut over that description except that there are far too many misguided chemtards out there :eek:

Iv'e seen some of them trying to rally others into chipping in to buy weapons to take jets down. Most are probably blowing hot air, agreed, but I still think it's only a matter of time before someone actually does it, or they start occupying or killing pilots.

On a lighter not. Check out Tanner, Hitting on half the population with sleeping disorders lol.. Even though they don't have super sensitive scent senses like him, they may still be suffering from chemtrail disorders.



Keeping this one in mind :

Daithi 1

I found some of these comments to be quite sad..

I took this over the house this afternoon, you can clearly see the end of the trail, and in the last pic you can see the older end of the trail starting to break up so it looks as if the "spray" or whatever was just turned off.

This obviously isn't the first time I've seen this sometimes there are loads and they all merge to form what appears to be a cloud.

Think about it, a normal jet has a short tail that dissipates quiet quickly, these trails are very long and stay in the air a much much longer time.

So if I believe in the so called conspiracy yes I do, I've no doubt what governments are capable of, and they will do anything.

It's been well known for years that spraying is done to alter weather.

And scientists are so convinced that man is changing the climate the climate that it's thought that there could be a global effort to combat global warming, god only knows what harm this will all do in the years to come.

Daithi 1

There is a perfectly rational explanation for contrails to persist, it's been know for about 80 years that the will persist under the right conditions, which s relative humidity @ 100% or higher with respect to ice (RHi). Not an uncommon condition. The stop start (spray) theory also has a simple explanation. The atmosphere in certain layers are supersaturated, this can change in a matter of 100 feet or less. You can have pockets of warmer air (like clouds) but are invisible so the contrail exhaust vapor doesn't crystallize to ice.

Short video here that shows how the contrail can stop and start all of a puddin..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t22wy4c-A-A

pfurey101

There are even times when the trails are broken or patchy. Its probably the ChemDumping Device operator having a go a sign writing. Turning the yoke on and off.

They are a mad lot them cads. The boundahs!

I could accept that argument if I didn't at the same time see planes flying with a normal short fast dispersing trail.

I'll never accept so called expert explanations as he who pays the piper calls the tune !!!

This is where we need proper investigative journalism, but sadly there is a lack of true journalism today.

Daithi 1

It just depends on the altitude. Between 30-45,000 feet they are more likely to persist, outside that it's rare but does happen. You can have one trail persisting and a jet a few hundred feet above or below the trail wont persist.
This is known since the 40's even before, long before chemtrails are believe to start 90's.

Daithi 1

Here is a good article on the subject.


http://www.csicop.org/specialarticles/show/a_million_poisoning_planes/