Chemtrails debunked.

Daithi 1

very funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5W6APS7D1o

Daithi 1

Daithi 1 wrote: »

outside that it's rare but does happen.

Rare ? are you joking ? I see this a lot.

Besides no one can deny the existence of cloud spraying, this has been going on for a long time and so there chemicals being sprayed into the atmosphere.

Whether this is the same as what we see I can't answer.

I don't believe it's population control, the world is well capable of supporting twice the population if it weren't for greed and corruption there wouldn't be half the starving there is today.

But rumours floating around say it could be an anti anthropogenic warming program scientists are so convinced that they can convince Governments to do anything.

You see I only started noticing this in the last couple of years, that the tail of the exhaust or (spray) would linger for so long and also stretch half way across the sky.

But isn't it interesting in one of my pics above where the trail just seemed to stop ? so what happened ? there was no plane crash, maybe the pilot though he'd shut off the engines to save fuel ?

King Mob

Deleted User wrote: »

Rare ? are you joking ? I see this a lot.

Besides no one can deny the existence of cloud spraying, this has been going on for a long time and so there chemicals being sprayed into the atmosphere.

Whether this is the same as what we see I can't answer.

It isn't the same at all.

Cloud seeding is used on clouds that already exist to make them rain when they normally would not.
This involves a small plane flying around a cloud, not a large place flying in a straight line in a clear sky.

It's not a particularly secret or sinister practice.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding

Deleted User wrote: »

But isn't it interesting in one of my pics above where the trail just seemed to stop ? so what happened ? there was no plane crash, maybe the pilot though he'd shut off the engines to save fuel ?

The pilot could have throttled up or down resulting in either less condensation from the engine exhaust or moving to a speed where a contrail wouldn't form. The plane could have reached a new altitude where the conditions didn't allow for a contrail. It could have hit a pocket of different air pressure or with a different level of moisture.
Or the reverse could be true as that could be the start of the contrail rather than the end.
There's tons of reasons that don't rely on the existence of a vast global conspiracy.

If that conspiracy did exist though and it was to try and stop global warming, why do they do it in secret?

pfurey101

Mad_Lad you need to relax. I worked in aircraft maintenance for 30 years and there is nothing there. There is no technology, equipment, systems etc.

Nothing!

But then again, in your mind, I could be part of the conspiracy and not the ramblings of those that have got it all wrong!

Daithi 1

Deleted User wrote: »

Rare ? are you joking ? I see this a lot.

Besides no one can deny the existence of cloud spraying, this has been going on for a long time and so there chemicals being sprayed into the atmosphere.

Whether this is the same as what we see I can't answer.

I don't believe it's population control, the world is well capable of supporting twice the population if it weren't for greed and corruption there wouldn't be half the starving there is today.

But rumours floating around say it could be an anti anthropogenic warming program scientists are so convinced that they can convince Governments to do anything.

You see I only started noticing this in the last couple of years, that the tail of the exhaust or (spray) would linger for so long and also stretch half way across the sky.

But isn't it interesting in one of my pics above where the trail just seemed to stop ? so what happened ? there was no plane crash, maybe the pilot though he'd shut off the engines to save fuel ?

I would imagine you only started noticing the last couple of years because thats when someone told you about chemtrails, so you started looking up more often. But those trails have always been there to some degree and it's extremely easy to prove, just google ww2 contrails images.

As far as the trails just stopping, I have already shown you that you dont need any engines to make a trail, let alone for it to start or stop. You can have an aerodynamic contrail or simply the difference in pressure over the wing. You can have pockets of warmer air in the atmosphere where trails become invisible, like if you are out in the cold you can see your breath but if you come inside you cant see it anymore, but it's still there.

Daithi 1

This image is doing the rounds now as evidence of "nano aluminium spray".

It seems when it's sunset the contrails look much more sinister.





Here is a similar image I came across, same coloring but much less sinister in appearance.

Daithi 1

This is an image often used to represent proof of chemtrails and haarp working in conjunction with eachother.

Below is an image from a book called "book of clouds studies", published in 1904. It shows the exact same pattern long before haarp or chemtrails.

Daithi 1

Daithi 1 wrote: »

I would imagine you only started noticing the last couple of years because thats when someone told you about chemtrails.

Actually you're wrong, I noticed it some time ago and decided to find out myself. I never heard about chemtrails before then.

Daithi 1

Daithi 1 wrote: »

This is an image often used to represent proof of chemtrails and haarp working in conjunction with eachother.

People shouldn't automatically assume that those who believe in chemtrails believe everything the read about them.

People should also know that he who pays the piper calls the tune, in other words, so called experts can be bought.

Do people for one instance believe Governments couldn't be capable of absolutely anything ? or do you believe governments are there to protect us ? :pac:

I can keep an open mind about anything, can chemtrails be proved ? probably not. Do I believe it's possible ? absolutely. Who knows what's going on in the name of Anthropogenic warming, aka global warming.

Daithi 1

Sure, it's a possibility that gov's would do it, they are actually discussing it openly and publicly, it's no secret it may happen one day. And they'll just do it.

But what is not possible is to hide the fall-out from it. How many different soils, air and water samples are done worldwide annually ? I'm willing to bet millions, and not one showing the results from chemtrails.

Thousands of people around the world screaming "chemtrails", not one of the with a couple hundred euro's to get their own tests done ? Not one single piece of proof of chemtrails anywhere in the world after 3+ decades of it happening and people being aware of it, investigating it in real time, no after the fact. ??

Who produces and manufactured millions of chemtrail devices ?
Who installed these devices on commercial jets ?
Who transports these devices
Who refills them for every trip ?
Who mines these metals ?
Who transports it to every airport on the planet ?
Is it the pilots job to spray this stuff all over the planet ?
Are the cabin crew in on it too ?


How many millions of people would it take to achieve all this ?

All this and many many more questions and not one single piece of proof. Not one leaked document, no one photo of a tanker pumping these materials onto jets, not one credible whistleblower, pilots, cabin crew, engineers, mechanics and airport staff, no rise in metal poisoning, no test results anywhere, no nothing.

Nothing ads up in the chemtrail theory, it's a non starter, a hoax.

pfurey101

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Sure, it's a possibility that gov's would do it, they are actually discussing it openly and publicly, it's no secret it may happen one day. And they'll just do it.

But what is not possible is to hide the fall-out from it. How many different soils, air and water samples are done worldwide annually ? I'm willing to bet millions, and not one showing the results from chemtrails.

Thousands of people around the world screaming "chemtrails", not one of the with a couple hundred euro's to get their own tests done ? Not one single piece of proof of chemtrails anywhere in the world after 3+ decades of it happening and people being aware of it, investigating it in real time, no after the fact. ??

Who produces and manufactured millions of chemtrail devices ?
Who installed these devices on commercial jets ?
Who transports these devices
Who refills them for every trip ?
Who mines these metals ?
Who transports it to every airport on the planet ?
Is it the pilots job to spray this stuff all over the planet ?
Are the cabin crew in on it too ?


How many millions of people would it take to achieve all this ?

All this and many many more questions and not one single piece of proof. Not one leaked document, no one photo of a tanker pumping these materials onto jets, not one credible whistleblower, pilots, cabin crew, engineers, mechanics and airport staff, no rise in metal poisoning, no test results anywhere, no nothing.

Nothing ads up in the chemtrail theory, it's a non starter, a hoax.

Ive been to Boeing and Airbus on many occaisions over a 30 year period, I have studied aircraft systems, I have dealt with aircraft component and engine manufacturers, engineers, flight crew, mechanics, logistics, supply chain, been involved in initial fleet deliveries to many airlines. I have spent years going through aircraft technical drawings, parts catalogues, overhaul and maintenance manuals, airframe and engine and component modifications and service bulletins and wiring diagrams from the Boeing 707's and BAC 1-11's in the 70's to Airbus 330/340's as late as 2009............


AND COMPLETELY MISSED THE CHEMTRAIL CONTROL SYSTEMS (and so did wikileaks)!!!!!!!


Mad_lad and all, please relax and focus your consideable resources on what really brought down the economy in 2007/8.

pfurey101

pfurey101 wrote: »

Ive been to Boeing and Airbus on many occaisions over a 30 year period, I have studied aircraft systems, I have dealt with aircraft component and engine manufacturers, engineers, flight crew, mechanics, logistics, supply chain, been involved in initial fleet deliveries to many airlines. I have spent years going through aircraft technical drawings, parts catalogues, overhaul and maintenance manuals, airframe and engine and component modifications and service bulletins and wiring diagrams from the Boeing 707's and BAC 1-11's in the 70's to Airbus 330/340's as late as 2009............


AND COMPLETELY MISSED THE CHEMTRAIL CONTROL SYSTEMS (and so did wikileaks)!!!!!!!


Mad_lad and all, please relax and focus your consideable resources on what really brought down the economy in 2007/8.

For all we know you could be part of the conspiracy

No point worrying about what brought down the economy, we already know that and it's too late , perhaps focusing on repairing it you mean ?

Daithi 1

Whatever, anything but non-chems.

Daithi 1

Chemtrail challenge

http://www.chemtrailschallenge.com/the-challenge

Treora

Is it simply an issue with oil supply, coupled with governments perceiving a benefit in not requiring the cleaning of the fuel source? Sort of an oops, yeh, sshh moment.

ecomac

I'm sorry if someone brought this before. I'm not too much in "Cospiracy Theory" subject, but this seems to be interesting.

go to United States Patent and TradeMark Office:
www.uspto.gov -> Patents -> Search Patents -> Patents Number Search -> enter 5003186 as the patent number

for lazy lads
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5003186.PN.&OS=PN/5003186&RS=PN/5003186

King Mob

ecomac wrote: »

I'm sorry if someone brought this before. I'm not too much in "Cospiracy Theory" subject, but this seems to be interesting.

go to United States Patent and TradeMark Office:
www.uspto.gov -> Patents -> Search Patents -> Patents Number Search -> enter 5003186 as the patent number

for lazy lads
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5003186.PN.&OS=PN/5003186&RS=PN/5003186

It has been a few times. However it's not particularly Earth shattering.
You can get a patent for most things even if they don't work or have never been tested.

Then there's the issue about why they would have this patent in the first place if they are trying to keep the whole thing secret.

Isn't there an Irish chemtrail site ? and wasn't there tests done on trees in the U.K that found high levels of the ingredients in trees somewhere ?

Interesting.

Oh you can be damn sure someone's making a lot of money out of it, no other reason they could do it. God only knows the long term damage that could be done from all this, even though there has not been any warming in the last 15 years which the IPCC have admitted nor can explain.

The 1930's were much warmer times in the U.S than they are now, and even warmer peaks than in 1998. I'd like to see the data for Europe too.

King Mob

Deleted User wrote: »

Isn't there an Irish chemtrail site ? and wasn't there tests done on trees in the U.K that found high levels of the ingredients in trees somewhere ?

Was there? Do you know what the results where and do you know how they were able to determine that these ingredients came from chemtrails.

The only "tests" I've seen involve some people claiming they did tests and finding certain chemicals with no mention of how they were able to determine these chemicals come from chemtrials.

Deleted User wrote: »

Interesting.

Oh you can be damn sure someone's making a lot of money out of it, no other reason they could do it.

How could they be making money from it exactly?
Surely a conspiracy involving millions of people would cost more than it could ever make.

pfurey101

There were tests post Chernobyl, I guess thats what he means.

Have a nice day now.

Daithi 1

Given the fact that geo scientists are considering injecting some materials into the atmosphere, it's not at all surprising that the technology may exist.

Daithi 1

AngryHippie

Deleted User wrote: »

Isn't there an Irish chemtrail site ? and wasn't there tests done on trees in the U.K that found high levels of the ingredients in trees somewhere ?

Interesting.

Oh you can be damn sure someone's making a lot of money out of it, no other reason they could do it. God only knows the long term damage that could be done from all this, even though there has not been any warming in the last 15 years which the IPCC have admitted nor can explain.

The 1930's were much warmer times in the U.S than they are now, and even warmer peaks than in 1998. I'd like to see the data for Europe too.

You are one crazy buffalo.

It's bunkum. The whole thing. Find something else to be paranoid. How about your phone.....?

pfurey101

Daithi 1 wrote: »

They are so scarily blinkered, fanatical and unreal it is actually not worth joining their Facebook pages to have any meaningful debate with them!

I suppose it takes all sorts.

Daithi 1

Yup, some of them are in so deep, it's really not worth saying anything to them.
I'm actually friends with quite a lot of them as I used to be a truther so I see a lot of this ^ stuff daily. It's quite sad. Some do listen tho, eventually.

returnNull

Daithi 1 wrote: »

I used to be a truther

Have you crossed over to the dark side?:pac:

Im skeptical:pac::pac::D

Daithi 1

Let's just say I'm not very popular with the truthers..

Daithi 1

Daithi 1

It's a chembomb !!! This is now considered proof of cembombs. 120,000 hits in 5 days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqqYKC6-rm8

This is a bursting weather balloon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lG3zr0yaJw

Daithi 1

hahaha :pac::pac::pac:

Chris Dolmeth

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Fukushima radiation... In Connecticut! Jeezus!

pfurey101

Ah noooooooooooooooo! Own up....who done dis!!!!!

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ireland-says-no-to-chemtrails/1442687159298620

Oh dear!!!

Stainless_Steel

pfurey101 wrote: »

Ah noooooooooooooooo! Own up....who done dis!!!!!

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ireland-says-no-to-chemtrails/1442687159298620

Oh dear!!!

Absolute retards. Imagine putting energy into something so stupid. Sure not like they'd have a job I suppose.

BloodBath

They really need to start making science mandatory in schools instead of Irish....

Daithi 1

MrPudding

Even more worrying, it look like Formula One is part of the consipacy too!



Oh nos.

MrP

IrelandSpirit

I don't care what they're spraying, it's a beautifully fumigated sky out there today -- zero natural sunlight or colour or tones, bland and insipid. Lovely.

And above all, normal, wikipedia-zombie normal, and even though chemtrails are just ordinary contrails (only bigger and therefore don't exist), they're here to improve our lives by blotting out natural sunlight and reducing the detrimental visual impact of a clean blue sky, proven to cause depression and mental illness.

It's science, get over it, go shopping -- also, we need to email these people at the UN and tell them we love our dreary artificial-looking skies, before they stop it and return us to ugly natural skies again. Sickening:


http://vimeo.com/87564470

pfurey101

IrelandSpirit wrote: »

I don't care what they're spraying, it's a beautifully fumigated sky out there today -- zero natural sunlight or colour or tones, bland and insipid. Lovely.

And above all, normal, wikipedia-zombie normal, and even though chemtrails are just ordinary contrails (only bigger and therefore don't exist), they're here to improve our lives by blotting out natural sunlight and reducing the detrimental visual impact of a clean blue sky, proven to cause depression and mental illness.

It's science, get over it, go shopping -- also, we need to email these people at the UN and tell them we love our dreary artificial-looking skies, before they stop it and return us to ugly natural skies again. Sickening:

http://vimeo.com/87564470

I maybe missing some irony, sarcasm or the auld tongue in cheek here. But you just described a typical day of Irish weather - something that was forecasted all weekend - becoming cloudy with a chance of rain.

IrelandSpirit

pfurey101 wrote: »

I maybe missing some irony, sarcasm or the auld tongue in cheek here. But you just described a typical day of Irish weather - something that was forecasted all weekend - becoming cloudy with a chance of rain.

I'm actually in Spain right now, and everybody's freaking out about the white lines sprayed in the sky, blotting out the sun, 'estelas' they call them here. There's a town in Murcia which is taking the issue to the UN! Basterds, I hope not, I love the estelas and the sickly white-out sky, hate natural sunlight, it hurts my eyes -- no good for anything much except plants perhaps.

weisses

IrelandSpirit wrote: »

I'm actually in Spain right now, and everybody's freaking out about the white lines sprayed in the sky,

I would freak out if i run out of it

http://www.flickr.com/photos/runneralan/2834935364/

pfurey101

IrelandSpirit wrote: »

I'm actually in Spain right now, and everybody's freaking out about the white lines sprayed in the sky, blotting out the sun, 'estelas' they call them here. There's a town in Murcia which is taking the issue to the UN! Basterds, I hope not, I love the estelas and the sickly white-out sky, hate natural sunlight, it hurts my eyes -- no good for anything much except plants perhaps.

Well rest assured in Spain - I know of no one freaking out. Everyone is grand and its windy, wet, dull and cloudy.

Just a normal Irish weather day here. Enjoy your sunshine and be not afraid.

IrelandSpirit

pfurey101 wrote: »

Well rest assured in Spain - I know of no one freaking out. Everyone is grand and its windy, wet, dull and cloudy.

Just a normal Irish weather day here. Enjoy your sunshine and be not afraid.

Thanks, but as I say, I always hated natural sunlight so I'm grateful for whatever it is that's being sprayed in the sky. It's good to block out the sun, NASA says that around 20% of sunlight no longer reaches the planet's surface due to aerial pollution, 'global dimming', perhaps up to 30% in the most impacted areas. I'm hoping that by around 2030 it's more like 80%. I'm sure Monsanto will engineer some gmo crops that can grow in less sunlight, if they haven't already.

And the Spaniards need to get over their 'Sunny Spain' image. We can only hope they too embrace their new artificial white-out skies, and stop their moaning about estelas and weird-looking grid-clouds. All that natural blue sky mumbo-jumbo is so last century.

Terry Gilliam Beard

IrelandSpirit wrote: »

Thanks, but as I say, I always hated natural sunlight so I'm grateful for whatever it is that's being sprayed in the sky.

There's nothing being sprayed in the sky. There's no evidence that anything is being sprayed in the sky. There is no logical way that things could be being sprayed in the sky and kept quiet.

In short, the whole theory is total horse****. But keep on believing - people love to think that they have secret knowledge, and if it makes you happy, keep on going. Just like religion - one doesn't need any proof to believe, does one?

IrelandSpirit

Well I know there's no evidence of any aerial spraying except for the white lines being sprayed in the sky which I adore because I hate sunlight, it hurts my eyes! Look at this beautiful sunset .. or is it sunrise, hard to tell because of the spraying which doesn't exist and there's no evidence for except for the evidence for it but this is the sky I love:



Absolutely gorgeous, isn't it? And here in Spain we've been watching those horrible old-fashioned natural sunrises but thankfully they don't last long because by afternoon the sky is a white-out of spraying, which I know isn't spraying but blocks out the sun with white trails sprayed everywhere. Cognitive dissonance, I love it, it's the future

Terry Gilliam Beard

IrelandSpirit wrote: »

Well I know there's no evidence of any aerial spraying except for the white lines being sprayed in the sky

The contrails, you mean? The stuff that is the result of engines operating in the sky, the same stuff that has been seen and documented since WW2?

So the evidence you have of spraying is...not evidence of spraying.

But have FAITH! That's the important thing. Who needs evidence, when you can FEEL the truth (that you want to believe).

IrelandSpirit

Terry Gilliam Beard wrote: »

The contrails, you mean? The stuff that is the result of engines operating in the sky, the same stuff that has been seen and documented since WW2?

So the evidence you have of spraying is...not evidence of spraying.

But have FAITH! That's the important thing. Who needs evidence, when you can FEEL the truth (that you want to believe).

Yes I know, you're right! The engines operating in the sky are the same as the crappy engines of WW2 so it has to be the same stuff that has been seen and documented then, even though it's 2014 and technology has advanced incredibly far since WW2 and they're obviously not the same engines it has to be the same crap sprayed out because they're the same engines.

I like your logic, you make no sense.

Any case, I'm hoping it's multivitamins but I don't care what's being sprayed up there, just give me artificial sunsets and artificial skies. I hate natural sunsets, people fall in love under them, even write poetry about the wonderful experience, and bla bla.

I do love a good sprayed-up sky so, that last pic was from Paris BTW, the French call the spray of their WW2 engines 'Le Chemtrails', so romantic

Terry Gilliam Beard

Contrails over Paris. Wow, amazing.

IrelandSpirit

Terry Gilliam Beard wrote: »

Contrails over Paris. Wow, amazing.

Les Chemtrails, yes, amazing -- you'd love it, because whatever that crap is they spray with their crappy WW2 engines it lingers all day, hundreds of white lines all over the sky, blotting out the sun, even though they shouldn't cover the sky and blot out the sun because they don't exist.


Won't embed the image for some reason, but this is a picture of the Eiffel Tower. People complain about it because they think the spray-stuff, 'Les Chemtrails' is ugly but as you can see, the spray-stuff doesn't exist and the Eiffel Tower is typical Paris and romantic:

https://scontent-b-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/p600x600/1897668_10151912902667051_1079962917_n.jpg

Terry Gilliam Beard

IrelandSpirit wrote: »

Les Chemtrails, yes, amazing -- you'd love it, because whatever that crap is they spray with their crappy WW2 engines it lingers all day, hundreds of white lines all over the sky, blotting out the sun, even though they shouldn't cover the sky and blot out the sun because they don't exist.

Indeed, chemtrails don't exist. Contrails do. Even - gasp - over one of the busiest airport hubs in the world.

Brown Bomber

Terry Gilliam Beard wrote: »

There's nothing being sprayed in the sky. There's no evidence that anything is being sprayed in the sky. There is no logical way that things could be being sprayed in the sky and kept quiet.

Really?
U.S. military’s secret experiment sprayed radiation on low-income housing



http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/04/u-s-militarys-secret-experiment-sprayed-radiation-on-low-income-housing/


But keep the faith etc