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Catagory 5 Tropical Cyclone to strike east Coast of India

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  • Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭savj2


    India is set to take a devastating blow from Severe Tropical Cyclone Phailin later Friday through this weekend.
    Destructive winds over 160 kph (100 mph), flooding rain of 100-200 mm (4-8 inches), and a crippling storm surge of 4-6 meters (14-20 feet) are all likely near the landfall point of Phailin which is expected across northeastern India on Saturday.
    Anyone residing in the states of Odisha or eastern Andhra Pradesh is encouraged to take proper precautions and prepare for life-threatening conditions.
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    While the Western Pacific Ocean had produced 24 named tropical cyclones so far this year, the Northern Indian Ocean has only seen one named tropical cyclone until Phailin.
    The combination of very warm ocean waters and relatively low wind shear will aid in both development and the continued strengthening of this tropical cyclone through Friday.
    A track toward the northwest is expected and Phailin will churn toward northeast India through Friday with further strengthening expected. Phailin has the potential to strengthen into the equivalent of a Category 5 hurricane or a super typhoon prior to landfall.
    In the Indian Ocean, all storms that reach tropical storm strength are referred to as tropical cyclones and they retain that name regardless of how strong they become. Once they reach the intensity of a hurricane or typhoon, they are referred to as "severe tropical cyclones."
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    Image courtesy of NOAA from Severe Tropical Cyclone Phailin taken Thursday Night, local time
    This powerful tropical cyclone is then expected to thrash eastern India, specifically in an area from Visakhapatnam to Brahmapur later Friday through Saturday. This area is home to millions of people, and it appears likely that a portion of this area will face life-threatening conditions this weekend.
    After making landfall in northeastern India on Saturday, Phailin will track northwestward through interior India and weaken Sunday into Monday. However, heavy rain of up to several inches could still fall well inland from the coastline causing some flooding through Monday.

    http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/india-facing-tropical-cyclone/18611884


  • Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭savj2


    It's going to be a Cat 5 before landfall.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭savj2


    http://www.weather.com/news/weather-hurricanes/tropical-cyclone-phailin-20131010

    Interesting analysis of Cyclone Phailin from weather.com. Go to 02:11 on the video.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Latest from JTWC. US Navy has had this well above the threshold for Super Cyclonic for some time now. Also, note the 52ft waves.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Mr Cumulonimbus


    IR image at 12Z. Eye appears incredibly small.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    It seems Phalin has gone through an eyewall replacement. ADT estimated pressure went up to 934mb at 10am this morning, but now it's back gaining strength again, down to 919mb as the storm structure improves on satellite. Cloud tops estimated at -82.01, colder than any time previously.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Mr Cumulonimbus


    JTWC 1500Z advisory has the winds at 145 KTS (gusts to 170) at midnight, and at mid-day tomorrow, 130 KTS (gusts 160) not far short of landfall.

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 149 ✭✭Chris The Hacker


    What time (Irish time) is this expected to make landfall?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    What time (Irish time) is this expected to make landfall?

    In the hours shortly before or after noon.

    Latest ADT estimate : 913mb, 146 knots (270 km/h). Still getting stronger.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora




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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,374 ✭✭✭positron


    Watching this closely as I have family and friends in that region.

    Reddit /india has an WATCH THREAD going, could possibly get live updates from ground zero.

    http://www.reddit.com/r/india/comments/1o827g/cyclone_phailin_watch_thread/


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,374 ✭✭✭positron


    In the hours shortly before or after noon.

    Latest ADT estimate : 913mb, 146 knots (270 km/h). Still getting stronger.

    This has been brought forward to 2 PM IST, which is 9:30 am here, tomorrow morning.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭Iancar29


    Only catching up on this , cant believe it grew so much!!!

    Thread should be changed if possible very soon to ... " CAT 5 LANDFALL STORM "


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭Duiske


    Just seen this from Ryan Maue.
    Ryan Maue ‏@RyanMaue 32m

    Just got our microwave pass of Phailin. No doubt about Category 5. Based on eye temp & structure on satellite, 150-160 knots max wind.


  • Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭savj2


    I don't know how to change the thread title as the edit for that post has gone.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Outer core reaching land now, but still around 12 hours or so before landfall. It's probably peaked intensity.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭savj2


    The very severe cyclonic storm,
    PHAILIN
    over westcentral and adjoining eastcentral Bay of
    Bengal moved west-northwestwards during past 6 hours and lay centred at 2330 hrs IST of 11
    th
    October 2013 over westcentral and adjoining eastcentral Bay of Bengal near latitude 16.9
    0
    N and
    longitude 87.0
    0
    E, about 375 km south-southeast of Paradip, 345 km southeast of Gopalpur, and 340
    km east-southeast of Kalingapatnam. It would move northwestwards and cross north Andhra
    Pradesh and Odisha coasts between Kalingapatnam and Paradip, close to Gopalpur (Odisha) by
    evening of today i.e. the 12
    th
    October, 2013 as a very severe cyclonic storm with a maximum
    sustained wind speed of 210-220 kmph
    .
    Estimated track and intensity of the system are given in the Table below:
    Date/Time(IST)
    Position
    (Lat.
    0
    N/ Long.
    0
    E)
    Sustained maximum surface
    wind speed (kmph)
    Category
    11-10-2013/2330
    16.9/87.0
    210-220 gusting to 235
    Very Severe Cyclonic Storm
    12-10-2013/0530
    17.5/86.3
    210-220 gusting to 235
    Very Severe Cyclonic Storm
    12-10-2013/1130
    18.3/85.6
    210-220 gusting to 235
    Very Severe Cyclonic Storm
    12-10-2013/
    1730
    19.1/84.9
    210-220 gusting to 235
    Very Severe Cyclonic Storm
    1
    2-10-2013/2330
    19.8/84.5
    100-110 gusting to 120
    Severe Cyclonic Storm
    13-10-2013/
    1130
    20.5/84.1
    50-60 gusting to 70
    Deep Depression
    1
    3.10.2013/2330
    21.5/83.7
    40-50 gusting to 60
    Depression
    Warning for Odisha, Andhra Pradesh and West Bengal
    Rainfall at many places with heavy to very heavy falls at a few places and isolated extremely heavy falls (≥
    25 cm) would occur over coastal Odisha during next 48 hrs and over interior Odisha from today afternoon for
    subsequent 48 hrs. Rainfall at most places with isolated heavy to very heavy falls would also occur over
    north coastal Andhra Pradesh during next 48 hrs. Isolated heavy to very heavy rainfall would occur over
    coastal areas of West Bengal commencing from afternoon of today i.e. the 12
    th
    October.
    (i)
    Gale wind:
    Squally winds speed reaching 45-55 kmph gusting to 65 kmph would continue along and
    off Odisha and north Andhra Pradesh coast during next 6 hrs. It would increase in intensity thereafter
    with gale wind speed reaching 100-150 kmph from forenoon and 210-220 kmph along and off
    coastal districts of north coastal Andhra Pradesh and south Odisha at the time of landfall. State of
    Sea along and off Odisha and north Andhra Pradesh coast is rough to very rough and will become
    gradually phenomenal from afternoon of today. It will be rough to very rough along and off West
    Bengal coast during the above period.
    (iii)
    Storm Surge Guidance:
    Storm surge with height of 3.0 to 3.5 mt. above astronomical tide would
    inundate low lying areas of Ganjam, Khurda, Puri and Jagatsinghpur districts of Odisha and Srikakulam
    district of Andhra Pradesh during landfall.
    (iv)
    Damage expected over Odisha and adjoining north Andhra Pradesh:
    Extensive damage to kutcha
    houses. Some damage to old buildings. Large scale disruption of power and communication lines. Disruption
    of rail and road traffic due to extensive flooding. Potential threat from flying debris. Flooding of escape
    routes. Extensive damage to agricultural crops.
    (v)
    Action suggested:
    Fishermen out at sea along north Andhra Pradesh, Odisha and West Bengal coast
    are advised to return to coast. Fishermen are advised not to venture into sea. Total suspension of fishing
    operations. Mobilise evacuation from coastal areas. Judicious regulation of rail and road traffic. People in
    affected areas to remain indoors during cyclone landfall.
    The next bulletin will be issued at 0530 hrs IST of today, the 12
    th
    October, 2013.

    http://www.imd.gov.in/section/nhac/dynamic/cwind.pdf


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Latest forecast from Dr Masters. The only good news is that it is forecast to make landfall in an area not as low lying as where the 1999 cyclone hit, so even though the surge may be as severe it won't extend as far inland.
    Forecast for Phailin

    Phailin is likely to be the strongest tropical cyclone to affect India in fourteen years, since the great 1999 Odisha Cyclone. The models are in tight agreement that Phailin will make landfall in Northeast India on Saturday between 09 - 15 UTC about 100 miles to the southwest of where the 1999 cyclone hit. The India Meteorological Department (IMD) is predicting that a storm surge of up to 3.5 meters (eleven feet) will hit along a swath a coast to the right of where the center makes landfall. I expect that this is an underestimate, since the 1999 Odisha Cyclone brought a storm surge of 5.9 meters (19 feet) to the coast, and Phailin is larger in areal extent and just as strong. The region of the coast where Phailin is expected to hit is not as low-lying, though, which should keep the death toll due to storm surge much lower compared to the 1999 Odisha Cyclone, where more than 70% of the deaths occurred due to the storm surge. Deforestation of the coastal mangroves in the storm surge zone was associated with increased death toll in that storm, according to Das and Vincent (2009), who concluded, "villages with wider mangroves between them and the coast experienced significantly fewer deaths than ones with narrower or no mangroves.". I expect that Phailin will weaken slightly before hitting the coast, due to interaction with land, and hit as a Category 4 storm with winds of 145 - 155 mph. The 1999 Odisha Cyclone hit land with top winds of 155 mph.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭SnowDrifts


    Fairly shocking that none of the major news outlets have picked up on this yet. If this was in the Gulf of Mexico, we would have live 24 hour coverage at this stage.


  • Registered Users Posts: 244 ✭✭rickdangerouss


    SnowDrifts wrote: »
    Fairly shocking that none of the major news outlets have picked up on this yet. If this was in the Gulf of Mexico, we would have live 24 hour coverage at this stage.


    BBC has this and a weather update video.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-24487130

    Maybe you are correct however.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭savj2


    The Indian Met are completely underestimating this storm. This is not a "Very Severe Cylonic Storm". This is a "Super Cyclonic Storm"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭SnowDrifts


    BBC has this and a weather update video.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-24487130

    Maybe you are correct however.

    Yeah I was talking more about international news agencies. Some of them are running the story but hidden in side articles.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Harps


    A really worrying situation from the few bits of info I've seen on this storm, could be front page headlines over the weekend, hopefully not. Good to see they're taking precautions anyway with 250,000 people being evacuated


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭smellslikeshoes


    Here's great size comparison between this one and the 1999 cyclone that killed 10k people.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭Duiske


    Off topic, but GFS showing a large Typhoon off shore Japan nest tues/weds. Very close to Fukushima on Wednesday. May not pan out like that, but worth keeping an eye on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Looks like it is about to undergo another eyewall replacement. This took about 5-6 hours last time. This time it will be over more shallow, slightly cooler water with some land interaction so it may not be able to fully recover again before landfall. It will probably knock about 20 kts off the windspeed, which will still be very severe, but it won't do anything to weaken the surge which is already in motion.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Duiske wrote: »
    Off topic, but GFS showing a large Typhoon off shore Japan nest tues/weds. Very close to Fukushima on Wednesday. May not pan out like that, but worth keeping an eye on.
    To be honest a storm isn't going to do anything more than the stupid mistakes they keep making there anyway.


    All I've been thinking since yesterday is "at least it's not hitting Banglasdesh." The effects of such a scenario are beyond anything outside of stats in a videogame.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Harps


    24 hour sat view here, the eye isn't far from the coast now though it looks to be breaking up a bit

    http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-app/satellite?CONT=asie&CREG=iiir&LANG=en&STRUCTUR=_&LOOP=24


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Harps wrote: »
    24 hour sat view here, the eye isn't far from the coast now though it looks to be breaking up a bit

    http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-app/satellite?CONT=asie&CREG=iiir&LANG=en&STRUCTUR=_&LOOP=24

    It started an eyewall replacement as it approached the coast and has run out of water to reorganise. Still a very powerful Cat 4 though and the storm surge will be based on how strong the storm was earlier rather than how strong it is now.

    They have managed to evacute a lot of people though so hopefully the surge will not take too many lives.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 149 ✭✭Chris The Hacker


    Live TV coverage from NDTV on Phailin.

    http://www.ndtv.com/video/live/channel/ndtv24x7


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