2013-4 Heineken Cup Discussion Thread

phog · 22-01-2014 1:58pm

phog wrote: »

Looking for a lazy way to check out red/yellow cards issued during the pool stages.

I run a H/cup competiton at work, each participant had to select a team from each round that would win their game, you cannot pick the same team twice and we weighted a win against an Italian team, the oppisition had to score 6 tires to get a BP.

Anyway I have a view tied on 27 points and after checking Tries for, PD they're still tied so next is Red Cards. The problem is the cards only count in the game that the participant used that team. Is there any easy way of checking cards issued without haveing to read the individual match report on ERC site or ESPN?

Does anyone know do the ERC or any other site list cards issued by team by fixture?

Bump...anyone?

P_1 · 22-01-2014 2:00pm

phog wrote: »

Bump...anyone?

Don't think so, thought wiki or flashscores might've but it seems they don't.

CatFromHue · 22-01-2014 2:48pm

I think there were only two red cards in total in the pool stages.; Mafi against Gloucester and Evans against Leinster. Both were in round 6 too.

who_me · 22-01-2014 3:35pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

I think there were only two red cards in total in the pool stages.; Mafi against Gloucester and Evans against Leinster. Both were in round 6 too.

Mafi's was from Round 1, wasn't it?

duckysauce · 22-01-2014 4:08pm

phog wrote: »

Bump...anyone?

here you go

http://rugby.statbunker.com/competitions/MostSinBins?comp_id=440

who_me · 22-01-2014 6:16pm

duckysauce wrote: »

here you go

http://rugby.statbunker.com/competitions/MostSinBins?comp_id=440

(From a southern perspective) nice to see Munster not featuring. That doesn't happen too often.

molloyjh · 22-01-2014 6:23pm

who_me wrote: »

(From a southern perspective) nice to see Munster not featuring. That doesn't happen too often.

Things have changed now that Quinny has retired... :P

jacothelad · 22-01-2014 6:30pm

who_me wrote: »

(From a southern perspective) nice to see Munster not featuring. That doesn't happen too often.

Was POM not binned in a game?

http://rugby.statbunker.com/competitions/MostSinBins?comp_id=440&club_id=82

sydthebeat · 22-01-2014 6:32pm

who_me wrote: »

(From a southern perspective) nice to see Munster not featuring. That doesn't happen too often.

yeas are gettin soft :P

.ak · 23-01-2014 10:09am

So, I'm waiting until the last min to book flights, where abouts will the ERC announce the times? I'm presuming twitter?

molloyjh · 23-01-2014 11:06am

.ak wrote: »

So, I'm waiting until the last min to book flights, where abouts will the ERC announce the times? I'm presuming twitter?

Ditto, but hotels rooms are all but gone in the city centre in Toulon already! I'd say keep an eye on twitter as it'll be up there from someone almost immediately.

.ak · 23-01-2014 11:09am

molloyjh wrote: »

Ditto, but hotels rooms are all but gone in the city centre in Toulon already! I'd say keep an eye on twitter as it'll be up there from someone almost immediately.

Yeah. I'm planning on staying in Nice, with an outside chance of finding something in Toulon last minute for the saturday night.

ssaye2 · 23-01-2014 11:40am

PP have the QF markets up already, way too early imo

Ulster -4
Clermont -12
Toulon -5
Munster -4

thomond2006 · 23-01-2014 11:53am

ssaye2 wrote: »

PP have the QF markets up already, way too early imo

Ulster -4
Clermont -12
Toulon -5
Munster -4

The earlier they get in cash the better, it's never too early! They know that all the teams will name their strongest possible side so there's no risk compared to putting out odds for Rabo matches.

P_1 · 23-01-2014 12:21pm

ssaye2 wrote: »

PP have the QF markets up already, way too early imo

Ulster -4
Clermont -12
Toulon -5
Munster -4

P_1 wrote: »

Hmm they seem like fair enough prices, guessing the handicaps would be around

Ulster -2
Clermont -15
Toulon -5
Munster -3

Ha I got one right I guess...

former legend · 23-01-2014 1:06pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

The earlier they get in cash the better, it's never too early! They know that all the teams will name their strongest possible side so there's no risk compared to putting out odds for Rabo matches.

One thing to keep in mind is that Toulon particularly (and Clermont less so) will have fewer players being exposed to the 6N than the others.

By my count, Toulon will have Bastareaud and no-one else involved, unless Mermoz gets a recall. Now obviously there will be top 14 games while the 6N is on, but you have more scope for resting key guys, rotating etc.

Leinster, on the other hand, will have maybe 10 of their starting 15 involved in all 5 Ireland games.

Toulon might be in much better shape come the first week of April.

Rightwing · 23-01-2014 1:07pm

ssaye2 wrote: »

PP have the QF markets up already, way too early imo

Ulster -4
Clermont -12
Toulon -5
Munster -4

Toulon, Toulouse and Leicester look like the value plays.

former legend · 23-01-2014 1:09pm

Rightwing wrote: »

Toulon, Toulouse and Leicester look like the value plays.

You don't think that Munster's band of journeymen no-hopers will be able to continue their run of slightly-above-average form into April then?

Rightwing · 23-01-2014 1:11pm

former legend wrote: »

You don't think that Munster's band of journeymen no-hopers will be able to continue their run of slightly-above-average form into April then?

A win of 1-3 points would suit Munster just fine.

Hope this helps.

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience · 23-01-2014 1:16pm

Rightwing wrote: »

A win of 1-3 points would suit Munster just fine.

Hope this helps.

That makes no sense in relation what he asked you

hope this helps, but I doubt it will

awec · 23-01-2014 1:18pm

Let's not go down that road.

P_1 · 23-01-2014 1:20pm

former legend wrote: »

One thing to keep in mind is that Toulon particularly (and Clermont less so) will have fewer players being exposed to the 6N than the others.

By my count, Toulon will have Bastareaud and no-one else involved, unless Mermoz gets a recall. Now obviously there will be top 14 games while the 6N is on, but you have more scope for resting key guys, rotating etc.

Leinster, on the other hand, will have maybe 10 of their starting 15 involved in all 5 Ireland games.

Toulon might be in much better shape come the first week of April.

Perhaps Suzanne the waitress should get a job in the south of France towards the end of March in that case

danthefan · 23-01-2014 1:22pm

former legend wrote: »

Leinster, on the other hand, will have maybe 10 of their starting 15 involved in all 5 Ireland games.

Toulon might be in much better shape come the first week of April.

If they come through injury free then I don't see that as a problem, they'll have a lot of high quality rugby under their belts.

Injuries though, yeah.

.ak · 23-01-2014 1:31pm

Fixture KO times delayed. GRRRRRRRR! :mad:

crisco10 · 23-01-2014 1:40pm

http://www.ercrugby.com/heinekencup/news/27938.php#.UuEMCrTFK01.

So irritating. I want to make travel plans!

ssaye2 · 23-01-2014 1:42pm

Mad to think only 15000 will get to see the last 2 year champs play together in a QF.

molloyjh · 23-01-2014 1:48pm

FFS this is ridiculous. You already can't get a hotel in Toulon unless it's miles out. Half tempted to assume we play on the Saturday and just book something now.

Podge_irl · 23-01-2014 1:52pm

molloyjh wrote: »

FFS this is ridiculous. You already can't get a hotel in Toulon unless it's miles out. Half tempted to assume we play on the Saturday and just book something now.

I'm more concerned about making sure I get a ticket first before booking anything

crisco10 · 23-01-2014 1:55pm

Podge_irl wrote: »

I'm more concerned about making sure I get a ticket first before booking anything

Think you will need deep pockets to enjoy that sort of comfort!

ssaye2 · 23-01-2014 2:01pm

http://www.homelidays.co.uk/toulon/apartment-flat-370634en1.htm

Apartment rental may interest some 450 for the week in a lot of places in Toulon

P_1 · 23-01-2014 2:01pm

ERC are saying that:

The objective is to take into account each club's preferences, venue restrictions at shared stadia, as well as ensuring that international broadcasters are able to cover all eight games from Thursday evening through to Sunday in order to maximise the promotion of the tournaments and the clubs involved and allowing fans who cannot access games to view the action.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't there just the one shared stadium in the eight concerned (including the ACC). Surely that can't really be used as an excuse for the hold up

molloyjh · 23-01-2014 2:08pm

ssaye2 wrote: »

http://www.homelidays.co.uk/toulon/apartment-flat-370634en1.htm

Apartment rental may interest some 450 for the week in a lot of places in Toulon

Yeah but that requires that people can get the time off. There's 9 of us travelling (minimum) and some of us can only take a day. We've put our names into the JWT hat, but that's going to cost an arm and a leg. Might just be easier though at this stage.

Podge_irl · 23-01-2014 2:52pm

crisco10 wrote: »

Think you will need deep pockets to enjoy that sort of comfort!

Well I don't need flights, just accommodation, but it seems like that is going to be a pain in the arse.

.ak · 23-01-2014 2:53pm

Podge_irl wrote: »

Well I don't need flights, just accommodation, but it seems like that is going to be a pain in the arse.

Stay in Nice if you're driving.

vienne86 · 23-01-2014 6:32pm

What ON EARTH can be delaying the decision - Godalmightygivemepatience, it's surely not rocket science.

Buer · 23-01-2014 7:14pm

Evans - 12 weeks
White - 3 weeks
Du Preez - incident judged not to have been worth of a red card and therefore a citing.

.ak · 23-01-2014 7:15pm

Buer wrote: »

Evans - 12 weeks
White - 3 weeks
Du Preez - incident judged not to have been worth of a red card and therefore a citing.

Seems fair enough.

Mahatma Geansai · 23-01-2014 7:45pm

.ak wrote: »

Seems fair enough.

White only gets 3 weeks for a stamp to the face. Very lucky boy. He needs to sort out his discipline.

.ak · 23-01-2014 11:48pm

Mahatma Geansai wrote: »

White only gets 3 weeks for a stamp to the face. Very lucky boy. He needs to sort out his discipline.

I think it was accidental, so yeah 3 weeks seems right. Reckless.

danthefan · 23-01-2014 11:50pm

.ak wrote: »

I think it was accidental, so yeah 3 weeks seems right. Reckless.

Initially I thought it wasn't that bad because he doesn't go for the head or any joints, it's just some fairly vigourous rucking. He then clips the face and yeah you have to give a ban for that. Nothing like Evans though.

vienne86 · 24-01-2014 2:41pm

molloyjh wrote: »

Yeah but that requires that people can get the time off. There's 9 of us travelling (minimum) and some of us can only take a day. We've put our names into the JWT hat, but that's going to cost an arm and a leg. Might just be easier though at this stage.

JWT said they would do day trips and one night trips....I notice that Killester travel did one AND two night trips to Castres, so maybe they will also offer two night trips to Toulon - it's a long way to go for one night, and also very expensive. Toulon is tricky to get to, so it's going to cost us not matter how we do it.

.ak · 24-01-2014 2:52pm

The flights I'm looking at haven't gone up... They're taunting me.

RuggieBear · 24-01-2014 2:54pm

Do It!

/easy to be decisive with other peoples money and time.

.ak · 24-01-2014 2:58pm

Done!

What else should I spend my pay cheque on Ruggie?!

.ak · 24-01-2014 2:58pm

On the balance of things though I'd rather watch the match from home (or find another method later on) than spending near €200 and MISSING the match because I'm in the air.

thomond2006 · 24-01-2014 3:07pm

.ak wrote: »

Done!

What else should I spend my pay cheque on Ruggie?!

Juan Martin Fernandez Lobbe pyjamas

PM me for details

RuggieBear · 24-01-2014 3:09pm

.ak wrote: »

Done!

What else should I spend my pay cheque on Ruggie?!

coke and hookers? like the rest of us...

vienne86 · 24-01-2014 3:56pm

Just saw on LF that Ryanair flying to Nice now.

Podge_irl · 24-01-2014 4:03pm

.ak wrote: »

The flights I'm looking at haven't gone up... They're taunting me.

What are you on about with this staying in Nice lark? It's ****in miles away!

.ak · 24-01-2014 4:05pm

Podge_irl wrote: »

What are you on about with this staying in Nice lark? It's ****in miles away!

Short trip on the train and a savage city (with plenty of cheap accommodation).

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