2013-4 Heineken Cup Discussion Thread

sydthebeat

Not that cnut..

freyners

balls

rockbeast

:eek:

B0X

At least he didn't ****ing swan dive.

Kiwi_knock

Lovely try. A lacklustre Ash-Splash for the occasion though.

Podge_irl

ArmchairQB wrote: »

I thought the decision was up to the club or home union to nominate a suitable venue that is not there home ground bu agre enough to facilitate a decent size crowd

I think the club suggest somewhere but ultimately the ERC officially decide the venue.

Good try from Sarries

freyners

Podge_irl wrote: »

Can't knock on off the chest.

of right, was wondering what is was in reference to, stream is very jumpy

Tomtom364

Thought there was a forward pass in that build up there. Goode to brits.

Diabhal Beag

Possible the least cunty celebration by Ashton ever

Podge_irl

Tomtom364 wrote: »

Thought there was a forward pass in that build up there. Goode to brits.

Likewise, thought that was forward alright.

Close though and you get those decisions a lot. It was a well worked try.

ArmchairQB

It was a well worked try in fairness

danthefan

I think Ashton now has the most tries ever in a single HEC.

Tomtom364

Podge_irl wrote: »

Likewise, thought that was forward alright.

Close though and you get those decisions a lot. It was a well worked try.

Beautifully worked. and if the pass was flat or back it would still have worked.
But looking at the replays im sure it was forward.

B0X

What are Clermont at.

Tox56

Sigh, Saracens are just brutal, worst opposition possible for Clermont arguably

Podge_irl

That was a collosal **** up of the restart by Clermont.

Think this will be a scrum V. Don't think James knocked it out deliberately.

ThisRegard

Hey lads, can't watch the game live and I just went through the planner and it doesn't seem to be repeated nor are there any highlight shows on later.

Anyone got any suggestions, if they be against the charter drop me a pm. Cheers!

sydthebeat

The word "bottlers" is starting to become applicable to Clermont again.

Davei141

Penalty try WTF? That is pretty farcical.

SlickRic

a joke that.

farce.

Podge_irl

Yellow for James. Think that's well harsh.

And a penalty try!?!? No way.

Will23

Not sure I agree with that.

Kiwi_knock

I don't think that is a penalty try, definite penalty but no way was Saracens going to touch it down.

rockbeast

Bullsh!t

ArmchairQB

That is an outrageous decision very poor fom Owens!!

B0X

Jesus. Doesn't a penalty try have to be defenitely scored if the incident didn't happen?

Taco Corp

that's a ridiculous call. don't think James was even looking at the ball

Tomtom364

Podge_irl wrote: »

Yellow for James. Think that's well harsh.

And a penalty try!?!? No way.

Yellow is correct (professional foul)

However, after the first legit attempt to catch the ball there was no way in hell a saracens player was going to get to the ball next so the penalty try is completely wrong.

former legend

That's an awful decision. Game over.

Tox56

Yeah thats a really poor call

Podge_irl

B0X wrote: »

Jesus. Doesn't a penalty try have to be defenitely scored if the incident didn't happen?

Probably scored. Don't think that fits still.

I honestly don't even think it was a penalty. I don't think that swinging arm form James was an attempt to knock the ball out. One of those ones that looks worse on slow motion.

AdamD

2 games in a row Saracens have gotten dodgy decisions with massive ramifications

sock puppet

Brock James strikes again!

WorldRugby99

it was definitely a penalty but how could you say a try was likely to be scored?

Podge_irl

Tomtom364 wrote: »

Yellow is correct (professional foul)

However, after the first legit attempt to catch the ball there was no way in hell a saracens player was going to get to the ball next so the penalty try is completely wrong.

I've no problem with the yellow once the penalty is awarded. I just don't even think it was a penalty. That, to my eyes, was not deliberate. Don't even think he could see the ball at that point...

LeeroyJones

James' arm hits the ball on the way down. His reaction is even as such that he chases after the ball once he touches it - hence it was accidental.

Terrible call. 5 metre scrum Sarries and 15 -v- 15 is the call IMO

ulster_Beef

I pray that Munster will win tomorrow

I bought a final ticket months ago. The thought of a toulon vs Saracens final makes me feel sick

Tox56

Its ridiculous how efficient Saracens are, 9 is pinned back nearly on his own line and nearly reaches halfway with his box kick clearance

Quint2010

Can't believe Owens gave a penalty try for that. Mind you he does have a record of giving penalty tries at that end of Twickenham in HC games..

phog

LeeroyJones wrote: »

James' arm hits the ball on the way down. His reaction is even as such that he chases after the ball once he touches it - hence it was accidental.

Terrible call. 5 metre scrum Sarries and 15 -v- 15 is the call IMO

To me he hit the ball out, penalty and YC would be acceptable but a penalty try is harsh.

Taco Corp

are BT Sport any worse than Sky when it comes to commentating on English sides?

LeeroyJones

phog wrote: »

To me he hit the ball out, penalty and YC would be acceptable but a penalty try is harsh.

Welll, no question he knocked it out. But I see no evidence that he knew what he was doing. You throw your arms up, your arms eventually come down. Jame's arm hits the ball on the way down

Tox56

Fofana's feet, jesus christ

thomond2006

Fofana...telephone box!

Diabhal Beag

Parra almost murdered there

thomond2006

Give it Nige, just give it.

phog

LeeroyJones wrote: »

Welll, no question he knocked it out. But I see no evidence that he knew what he was doing. You throw your arms up, your arms eventually come down. Jame's arm hits the ball on the way down

I'll rephrase it, I think he deliberately knocked the ball away, as it went over the dead ball line a penalty was the correct call as was the YC.

danthefan

LeeroyJones wrote: »

Welll, no question he knocked it out. But I see no evidence that he knew what he was doing. You throw your arms up, your arms eventually come down. Jame's arm hits the ball on the way down

Not really sure that's a defence. The ref has decided James stopped Saracens from having a chance to score by knocking the ball off the pitch (which is obviously illegal), whether he meant it or not he's still done it and still stopped Saracens from having their scoring chance.

ArmchairQB

Excellent response c'mon Clermont ah jaysus Owens gong o TMO:eek:

vetinari

Owens seems very on Saracens side today.
Harsh penalty try and quick to end advantage for Clermont