Long termers TTC

pennyloves

Thanks Bobski, that's brilliant news!

angeldelight

Just out of interest why do they usually only transfer one?

lollpop

The merrion clinic is the same. Depending on your age and the embryo quality they may allow more than one to be transferred. The reason for transferring a single embryo is simply that it's safer. Multiple pregnancies are much riskier for both mother and baby and also resullt in more stress on the health service (due to the risks). The clinics aim to get you a healthy baby, a single embryo is the safest way to do that. They are also asked by the medical council to keep the number of multiple pregnancies as low as possible due to the risks.

TomeeTipee

bobskii wrote: »

Pennyloves you can discuss with hari if you want to transfer 2 .It depends on your age and egg quality,they will transfer more than one if it's arranged beforehand . just something else to consider.

Bobskii, do you mind me asking - what day did you have your transfer? Are hari open to transferring 2 if they do the transfer on day 2/3? I've gotten the impression that they will only transfer 1 blast, but may be more open to transferring 2 if the transfar takes place earlier. Have lots of questions to ask at my next appointment!

bobskii

I had day 5 blast transfer . 4 made it to day 5 and they transfered 1 . We only had 1 to freeze tho as the other two didn't make it to day 6 . I'm not sur about the 3 day transfer,if they weren't progressing we would have had a 3 day transfer and I think if that happened I would have pushed for 2 as I'd have known quality wasn't as good . It's good to have an idea before you go into it as to what you want because then you can push for it.

TomeeTipee

bobskii wrote: »

I had day 5 blast transfer . 4 made it to day 5 and they transfered 1 . We only had 1 to freeze tho as the other two didn't make it to day 6 . I'm not sur about the 3 day transfer,if they weren't progressing we would have had a 3 day transfer and I think if that happened I would have pushed for 2 as I'd have known quality wasn't as good . It's good to have an idea before you go into it as to what you want because then you can push for it.

Thanks for the information bobskii. It's great that you made it to day 5, but such as pity that you didn't have more to freeze. I've already been told that with a low amh, I shouldn't expect too many eggs, so they don't think that I'll have many/any left for freezing. I would love to make it to day 5, but if that's not possible I think I will definitely push to have 2 transferred. Lots to think about before my next appointment! It's great to be able to ask questions here so that I can go in prepared!!

bobskii

They told me I had low egg reserve and then when they scanned me said it was good which was encouraging . I don't mind that we had only1.1 . All going well with this pregnancy I don't think we'd even use it . just happy it worked the first time!

pennyloves

Has anyone heard of anyone who has been to the cork fertility clinic. My gynecologist wants me to go there even though I thought the hari was the best. I am not sure whether the journey up and back from Dublin would impact on the success of the ivf.

barbiegirl

Hi Penny did he give you a reason? That's an awful journey to have to undertake. I would have thought Hari or Sims unless there is a complication that a doctor in Cork is a particular specialist in.

barbiegirl

Hi girls, well I've stuck to the diet, lost weight BUT my tnf alpha has gone from 50.2 to 126.4!!!!! Totally the wrong way round. The combination of very high Omega, Vitamin B and Vitamin D was meant to bring it down the opposite way. Seemingly according to the dietician I am an anomaly, mmmmm as if I didn't know that.
So now the next step if the next blood test is the same, is a drug called Humira, which seemingly costs €1500!!!!!!!!!!! If I can get referred to an Endocrynologist or Rheumatologist then it will be covered by my drug card, but if from Sims I have to pay the whole amount.
Have any of you been on Humira and if so have you any info re is it a once off treatment or recurrent?
Delays and more delays before we can start ivf.

bobskii

Penny that sounds a bit ridiculous . why would he want you to put extra pressure on yourself,unless it's cos someone specialises in something down there that is specific to you . like if you have to go ahead with ivf you would be better live as close as possible speaking from experience.

pennyloves

She told me that she'd do all the scans etc and I would only have to go down for the extraction and transfer. I thought the hari was the best but she also said that the last 5 women she referred to cork this year got pregnant the first time round and she said that so far they've had a 100% success rate. I don't know what to do. ..everyone's saying go with your gut but it keeps changing!!!!! As I said I need to decide by Tuesday!

bobskii

Oh I'd be as confused as you are then!Maybe she has more trust in Cork,I know the first day I was up I met a couple from donegal and I remember thinking god love them having to travel that distance . it really is a decision only you can make then . Do as much research between now and Tuesday as is possible.

TomeeTipee

pennyloves wrote: »

She told me that she'd do all the scans etc and I would only have to go down for the extraction and transfer. I thought the hari was the best but she also said that the last 5 women she referred to cork this year got pregnant the first time round and she said that so far they've had a 100% success rate. I don't know what to do. ..everyone's saying go with your gut but it keeps changing!!!!! As I said I need to decide by Tuesday!

Hi pennyloves, it's a tough decision. When your doctor refers to a 100% success rate, presumably she is talking about the last 5 women that she referred to cork and not cork's actual success rates? In that case, I would see if cork publish their overall success rates and see how they compare to hari. 5 out of 5 getting pregnant on the first go is probably just luck more than anything and for every 5 that get lucky, there are probably 5 more out there who didn't. It's hard to compare success rates for different clinics, as some publish live birth rates, some publish pregnancy rates, some publish per embryo transfer, some publish per cycle started etc. so it is not always easy to make a direct comparison. Sorry, this is probably no help to you at all!

Personally, I will be attending hari for icsi and I live about 1 1/2 - 2 hours away. It is the closest clinic to me and I like them there but in an ideal world I would love to be closer and to be able to cut down on the travelling times. I don't think I would fancy travelling the extra distance unless the difference in success rates was significant.

I suppose another thing to consider is that if you are getting your scans done outside the clinic with your own doctor, who decides if you need to adjust your medication, or who decides if you need to go for egg transfer a day earlier or a day later than originally planned? I'm not quite sure how that would work.

nemo32

Penny I just sent you a PM but like everyone else has said, check out the success rates on each of there website. Try and think about how you would feel about the distance you need to travel for intital consult/egg collection and transfer. I have heard the lab is meant to be very good in CFC but if the success rates are similar then the HARI are obviously just as good. Slightly cheaper for IVF/ICSI in CFC but you will need to include travel expenses.
If your gynae is doing your scans/bloods usually she sends them down to CFC and they are the ones who makes the decisions on changing your meds and when you will do EC and ET. The gynae is literally just doing the scans/tests and that's it. Will there be an extra cost for your gynae to do the scans/tests, remember to include that. Sorry I hope I haven't confused you any further.

lollpop

+1 to what everyone else has said, pparticularly around success rates. There is no such thing as 100% success rates in ivf. Your gp also may not have the details of the specific issues those couples were having. Success rates vary from couple to couple depending on the particular issues at play. Ivf is hard enough without the additional complication of extra travel if it's not necessary. I was with the merrion in Dublin and found them great.

pennyloves

Thanks a million for all the advice. I really think a clinic in Dublin would reduce the stress on me but I sstill have that niggling feeling that what if I am passing up the best chance to make it happen this summer. But if it all goes pear shaped in cork I will blame it on the travelling! !! I know my gyn obviously has a business relationship with cork so I am worried about my consultation on Tuesday as I can be easily swayed! The success rates in cork are very good but it's very hard to compare like with like. Hopefully I will come to a definitive decision by Tuesday. Thank you for all your messages, I know I've said this before but I would be genuinely lost without this forum x

pwurple

I've been to the CFC myself (though didn't start a cycle) and found them good.

I've a few friends who go there also. One was pregnant on first cycle of IVF (after three failed IUI's), with a lovely baby boy. Another had several failed cycles of ICSI there before having to give up. Their success rates are supposed to be good, and they measure by live births rather than successful implantation as far as I remember, but it's not a sure thing anywhere. If you didn't have success in dublin, then maybe try it.

bear1

I posted originally in the wring forum so I'll copy and paste it here for some advice:

First time I'm posting in this forum as I'm looking for some advice.
I'm married now just over a year and we are in the process of buying our own home. Our financial situation is comfortable so we've decided on trying for a baby.
She was ovulating last week so within that tiny period we did the business. Immediately afterwards she began getting pains which lasted a few days after which a test was done and came back negative.
Now her pains seem to be turning into period pains and we start all over again.
Has anyone here had a few misses before actually getting pregnant? We've tried a few times and nothing is happening so we are worried there is a problem with us.
Thanks for reading

lollpop

Bear, I know it's easier said that done but if you've only been trying a couple of months, then it's far too early to get worried. Even if everything is working perfectly, and you manage to do the deed (DTD) at exactly the right time, you still only have a 20% chance of conceiving every month. Try to relax and enjoy the trying for a few months and hopefully it will happen for you over the next few months. Also, try not to limit your chances to just the days you think your wife thinks she is ovulating. Sex every second day in the days before and after is a good approach as timing ovulation exactly is quite tough!

bear1

lollpop wrote: »

Bear, I know it's easier said that done but if you've only been trying a couple of months, then it's far too early to get worried. Even if everything is working perfectly, and you manage to do the deed (DTD) at exactly the right time, you still only have a 20% chance of conceiving every month. Try to relax and enjoy the trying for a few months and hopefully it will happen for you over the next few months. Also, try not to limit your chances to just the days you think your wife thinks she is ovulating. Sex every second day in the days before and after is a good approach as timing ovulation exactly is quite tough!

Bang on advice right there and the reassurance I was looking for.
I suppose I'll just have to keep having sex then

BroodyAllen

It took us 8 months and we have no issues that we know of. Take your time, you have no reason to worry!

Hollywood130

Hi ladies, I haven't been on in a while, still hard at the TTC!! The joys, currently on OI with TSI, second cycle, in the dreaded 2ww right now, was expecting AF today, started spotting yesterday, it was gone by this morning and started again this afternoon, it's driving me insane because I associate it with AF but 2 days of it is strange. My test day is Saturday, really hope I make it this month. I feel so dizzy all day today, not sure what that's about either, feel quite ill, can't wait to get onto the couch, it all could be associated with the injections and with AF too, crossing my fingers its not... hope everyone else is doing ok.

Would love some reassurance on the spotting if anyone else had it and went onto a BFP

orchidsrpretty

Hollywood, I got pregnant using ICSI and 7 days post transfer so 12dpo, I spotted brown on and off for two days. It didn't happen on my first bfn. I was sure it was af as was getting cramps too. But seems they are also very common early symptoms. Sadly nothing you can do but wait it out. Fingers crossed for you.

Hollywood130

Bad news for me this morning Orchid :-( AF arrived, so disappointed, onto round 3, it was all good news this cycle at the clinic, 3 good size follicles, thick lining, we went on holidays the day after the clinic so we were completely relaxed and had plenty of time for the tsi, I was sure it was going to go well for us this cycle. I'm sure I'll just feel like this today, tomorrow I'll pick myself up and try again. I just hope it will happen, some month I really hope I get lucky :-(

orchidsrpretty

Really sorry to hear Hollywood, it's so hard and frustrating. Treat yourself to a nice glass of wine tonight.

pennyloves

Sorry to hear that Hollywood, it's so bloody frustrating! I am due my af tomorrow, I am sick of holding my breath and praying it's going to happen so I am going out tonight. Keep the chin up x

Hollywood130

Hey Penny, it really is , its so so hard. Fingers crossed yours stays away. Are you having an treatment? Enjoy your night out!

pennyloves

Hi Hollywood, I am on clomid but I don't think my body is reacting the way it should to it as I don't seem to ovulate every month. I have reached the point where I have just had enough of the stress and upset every month so I have decided to give ivf a go. I have my first appointment with the hari on 4th June so that has given me something to focus on. How long have you been getting the trigger shots for?

Hollywood130

I was on Chlomid for so so long, I did Ovulate on it, confirmed by 1 blood test but that was it. I got referred to another doctor and she put my on Gonal F and Ovitrelle. She said they are a little stronger than the Chlomid. I've had 2 cycles so far starting my 3rd on Sunday. The original plan was 3-4 cycles, I'm not sure if this is my last or if we'll be having the 4th, if it doesn't work it'll be onto ivf them for me.

I've been looking at ivf clinics just incase, was considering going abroad but I think being at home would just be so much better maybe. Hoping the trigger shots work. I have Endo and low AMH. It's so frustrating. Not sure if I'll afford the ivf this year as we're trying to buy a house...