Oct 22 - Apple iPad event

Doge

Recorded Stream here:

www.apple.com/apple-events/october-2013/


Needs quicktime installed.

Works in Firefox for me, but not in Chrome.

Doge

BTW its about bloody time they offered an OS update for free, i.e. Mavericks.

With the Mac prices they molest you with, its not like they're going to lose out on much profit!

Overheal

They needed to compete with 8.1's pricing ��

Mavericks was sadly the best part of today's announcement, with geeky improvements to battery life and memory performance. For free no less

The iPad Air? Mehhhh. More of the same. Typically iterative. No KB Cover. Can't believe the iPad 2 is still going to be around this holiday season.

miralize

Overheal wrote: »

They needed to compete with 8.1's pricing ��

Mavericks was sadly the best part of today's announcement, with geeky improvements to battery life and memory performance. For free no less

The iPad Air? Mehhhh. More of the same. Typically iterative. No KB Cover. Can't believe the iPad 2 is still going to be around this holiday season.

The iPad 2 not for the consumers at this stage. Its for education & enterprise.

DubDJ

I think the reason they kept the iPad 2 around is because of the fact it matches up nicely with the non-Retina iPad mini specs wise.

The only difference between the new Retina mini and iPad Air is the screen size and prices. They match up exactly on specs, so it's a choice between retina and non retina and then which screen size you prefer.

Sad Professor

I’d be interested to know how much RAM is in the Retina Mini. I’d be concerned that they skimped on it compared to the Air.

The One Who Knocks

Downloading Mavericks now!


Finder Tabs!!

Creamy Goodness

Sad Professor wrote: »

I’d be interested to know how much RAM is in the Retina Mini. I’d be concerned that they skimped on it compared to the Air.

They've kept everything else the same spec wise bar the physical screen size so why you think they'll skimp on the ram?

I called this in the thread earlier, apple have learned from the iPad 3's mistakes.

Dont be at yourself

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

They've kept everything else the same spec wise bar the physical screen size so why you think they'll skimp on the ram?

I called this in the thread earlier, apple have learned from the iPad 3's mistakes.

Would certainly make it easier on developers, but you never know. I'm sure ifixit will let us know sooner or later!

Sad Professor

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

They've kept everything else the same spec wise bar the physical screen size so why you think they'll skimp on the ram?

Because margins are probably still tight on the Mini. If the Air has 2GB, I wouldn’t be surprised if they only put 1GB in the Mini. We’ll see.

Mimikyu

This post has been deleted.

AlanS181824

First years use iPad 2's in my school and we are supposed to be using them next year. As much as I prefer Android iPads are quite easy to pick up and get used to.

Sad Professor

Captain Morgan wrote: »

This post has been deleted.

Yeah the regular Mini has 512. The problem with 1GB is that the Retina screen would eat up most of the benefits, so you wouldn’t see much improvement in tab refreshing.

I’m assuming, of course, that 2GB is what’s in the Air, but who knows, it could be only 1GB.

Creamy Goodness

iPad 4 has 1gb so even if the mini retina has 1gb we'll be fine.

Dudda

super_furry wrote: »

Really, really disappointed with the price increase of the iPad Mini. I was all set to move from the first Nexus 7 to the new iPad Mini but at 489 euros for the 32gb version, I'm going to get the new Nexus 7 for nearly 200 euro less.

Can't believe they didn't keep it in line with the original pricing.

Agree I wasn't expecting such a price increase either. It's going from a bit more expensive to nearly twice the price of similar tablets.

Zcott

I don't think anyone was expecting the iPad Air name change, which opens up the iPad name. Some talk of renaming the iPad mini to iPad, or maybe opening up a new iPad Pro line. Hard to know.

AlmightyCushion

Zcott wrote: »

I don't think anyone was expecting the iPad Air name change, which opens up the iPad name. Some talk of renaming the iPad mini to iPad, or maybe opening up a new iPad Pro line. Hard to know.

I think it's to separate it from the iPad 2. It's a little confusing that the iPad 2 was the crappier, lower specced one but the iPad was the better, more powerful version.

Sad Professor

Zcott wrote: »

I don't think anyone was expecting the iPad Air name change, which opens up the iPad name. Some talk of renaming the iPad mini to iPad, or maybe opening up a new iPad Pro line. Hard to know.

I was thinking the same. But I think it was just a way of drawing attention to the redesign, which is pretty significant. Since they dropped the number there isn't much to differentiate the latest iPad from the previous generation. Calling it "the new iPad" doesn't cut it.

Zcott

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

I think it's to separate it from the iPad 2. It's a little confusing that the iPad 2 was the crappier, lower specced one but the iPad was the better, more powerful version.

Hm, good point. I also find it strange that they kept on with the iPad 2, because it's the only non-retina and non-lightning product they make. They must be able to make them seriously cheap to warrant selling them on; I expected they'd discount the iPad 4 to replace it.

Sad Professor

They kept the iPad 2 because they can sell it with extremely good margins for less than €400. The iPad 3 was a write-off and selling the iPad 4 for €400 would have been tight, especially when they need those Retina displays for the iPad Air. And as this and other threads show, Retina is wasted on many people who just want a cheap tablet, so Apple might as well profit from them.

Creamy Goodness

Zcott wrote: »

Hm, good point. I also find it strange that they kept on with the iPad 2, because it's the only non-retina and non-lightning product they make. They must be able to make them seriously cheap to warrant selling them on; I expected they'd discount the iPad 4 to replace it.

iPhone 4S, iPod Classic both use 30 pin

baldshin

Surprised they kept on iPad 2, mine is just over a year old and is gone incredibly slow! Might sell it on and upgrade to a retina mini!

murpho999

I think they must be keeping the iPad 2 as they cannot sell another retina display model significantly cheaper.

embraer170

It's a sign the iPad 2 will be getting iOS updates for another while... roll on iOS 8!

mdwexford

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

Some people swear by the retina difference. Some people see nothing. I see nothing

7upfree wrote: »

Yep. Agree 100%. On a very large screen yes. On a 7" screen absolutely not.

Anyone who doesn't see a difference honestly needs their eyes tested.

The difference on an iPhone is huge never mind an iPad.

Xavi6

Only got my iPad 4 a year ago but I really want the iPad Air now

Overheal

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

Some people swear by the retina difference. Some people see nothing. I see nothing

have you consulted an optician? Theres a clear difference. I can spot spot retina just by looking at the battery percentage.






Its even worse if you look at a 3GS or a 3rd gen iTouch. Really distracting when you watch netflix

guil

mdwexford wrote: »

Anyone who doesn't see a difference honestly needs their eyes tested.

The difference on an iPhone is huge never mind an iPad.

Spotted it straight away on my sisters iPad mini when setting it up. Couldn't believe how blocky the text looked compared to my iPhone 4.

7upfree

Overheal wrote: »

have you consulted an optician? Theres a clear difference. I can spot spot retina just by looking at the battery percentage.






Its even worse if you look at a 3GS or a 3rd gen iTouch. Really distracting when you watch netflix

In all fairness, when you blow something up to that size it will be noticeable. To the majority of people it isn't. It's up there with watching HD vs SD on a 42" display while sitting 15 feet away.

7upfree

mdwexford wrote: »

Anyone who doesn't see a difference honestly needs their eyes tested.

The difference on an iPhone is huge never mind an iPad.

We have the mini, the 4S and a 27" iMac. Believe me, it is negligible.