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FAE September 2014

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  • Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭LOccitane


    Little Pea wrote: »
    What is Paul Monahan on when he is writing these cases up ?

    Lucky star - and Shamrock today ... mental !!!

    Think I'm finished with cases now - getting noting out of them

    Completely agreed. I'm finishing up on cases completely (including AAE) effective next weekend and reverting entirely to one last sweep of the technical material. I still find that I'm not picking up the suggested solution content on my own 'trial' of the cases which is a real worry.

    Does anybody know if the DeVere Steps solution went up? Last time I checked it wasn't...

    In some ways I feel that I know less now than I did at the end of June after only a few weeks of study back then!

    LOccitane


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 402 ✭✭R0N BURGUNDY


    Sweet - just found out I passed P1, P2 & P3 ACCA exams I sat in June there as a backup plan! Less pressure for FAEs now. If I fail FAEs again, 2 more ACCA exams to pass and I'm on my merry way. Get in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 543 ✭✭✭womandriver


    LOccitane wrote: »
    Completely agreed. I'm finishing up on cases completely (including AAE) effective next weekend and reverting entirely to one last sweep of the technical material. I still find that I'm not picking up the suggested solution content on my own 'trial' of the cases which is a real worry.

    Does anybody know if the DeVere Steps solution went up? Last time I checked it wasn't...

    In some ways I feel that I know less now than I did at the end of June after only a few weeks of study back then!

    LOccitane

    In my opinion this is a mistake. The more cases you do, the more comfortable you will become with them. At the end of the day when you go in to the exam hall, It's a case study that will be in front if you.
    Technique on the day will be very important and that's something you can only develop by doing cases. You're also absorbing stuff from the cases as you're doing them possibly without realising.

    Maybe split your time between technical material and cases but don't give up on cases altogether.

    Just my opinion as someone who passed the CORE last year but failed the elective. I can honestly say the difference between the CORE and the elective for me was practising cases and specifically that I hadn't enough elective cases covered because I didn't have time to cover them. Just my 2 cents.


  • Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭LOccitane


    In my opinion this is a mistake. The more cases you do, the more comfortable you will become with them. At the end of the day when you go in to the exam hall, It's a case study that will be in front if you.
    Technique on the day will be very important and that's something you can only develop by doing cases. You're also absorbing stuff from the cases as you're doing them possibly without realising.

    Maybe split your time between technical material and cases but don't give up on cases altogether.

    Just my opinion as someone who passed the CORE last year but failed the elective. I can honestly say the difference between the CORE and the elective for me was practising cases and specifically that I hadn't enough elective cases covered because I didn't have time to cover them. Just my 2 cents.

    Many thanks for that WD :-)

    Did you also sit the Audit Elective last year? Personally I find the Elective to be more contingent upon pure technical knowledge in terms of the 'easiness or not' of the Paper relative to the CORE which can be some general verbiage on anything - but that might be just me.

    Can I ask - How many Elective cases had you done prior to the Final last year?

    LOccitane


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 543 ✭✭✭womandriver


    LOccitane wrote: »
    Many thanks for that WD :-)

    Did you also sit the Audit Elective last year? Personally I find the Elective to be more contingent upon pure technical knowledge in terms of the 'easiness or not' of the Paper relative to the CORE which can be some general verbiage on anything - but that might be just me.

    Can I ask - How many Elective cases had you done prior to the Final last year?

    LOccitane

    Hope it didn't sound preachy or anything, wasn't intended like that.

    Yeah I sat the audit elective last year and failed it. I don't really know how many elective cases I'd done but to be honest the ones I had done, I hadn't done them properly, it was mostly just throwing an eye over them and straight to the solution because I was tight for time.

    I spent a fair bit of time on the theory for it tho and I genuinely felt I had a good grasp of it ( maybe I was deluded) but on the day my technique let me down eg. For audit report question I made assumption of what the outcome would be and explained the impact on audit report for that outcome but from doing cases now I know they want you to cover all potential outcomes and impacts of each one eg. indicator 3 in the steps case Ace Physio.

    It's true that anything can come up in the core, it's a horrible exam, but all you can do on the day is work with what's in the case as best you can and in my opinion having worked though other cases, and worked through those, whether you come up with the sample solution or not, is better preparation than just covering endless technical material, 99% of which you won't use on the day of the exam.

    You don't have to come up with an identical solution to the sample one to pass the exam either so don't let the solutions dishearten you. It's doable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 543 ✭✭✭womandriver


    Hope it didn't sound preachy or anything, wasn't intended like that.

    Yeah I sat the audit elective last year and failed it. I don't really know how many elective cases I'd done but to be honest the one I had done, I hadn't done them properly, it was mostly just throwing an eye over them and straight to the solution because I was tight for time.

    I spent a fair bit of time on the theory for it tho and I genuinely felt I had a good grasp of it ( maybe I was deluded) but on the day my technique let me down eg. For audit report question I made assumption if what the outcome would be and explained the impact in audit report for that outcome but from doing cases now I know try want you to cover all potential outcomes and impacts of each one eg. indicator 3 in the steps case Ace Physio.

    It's true that anything can come up in the core, it's a horrible exam, but all you can do on the day is work with what's in the case as best you can and in my opinion have worked though other cases, and worked through those, whether you come up with the sample solution it not, is better preparation than just covering endless technical material, 99% of which you won't use on the day of the exam.

    You don't have to come up with an identical solution to the sample one to pass the exam either so don't let the solutions dishearten you. It's doable.

    Apologies for typos, typing on the phone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,220 ✭✭✭20 Times 20 Times


    The one thing that i learnt from this exam process , that no one way is correct to study. Everyone is different - Some people covered cases , some people did a lot of theory and others a balance.

    It is what every works for the individual at the end of the day. We have all put the work in , in our own way .

    For me the learning that comes with the cases has stopped.
    I feel that the final two weeks will be better spent on technical material / NOT THEORY and filling the gaps that the cases and in particular Paul Monahan has left out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 165 ✭✭Accountant81


    Has anyone got any good notes on consolidations that they can share, please? I've just been working from Derry Cotter's but wondering if the CGS ones etc were any good? Thanks!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 543 ✭✭✭womandriver


    Little Pea wrote: »
    The one thing that i learnt from this exam process , that no one way is correct to study. Everyone is different - Some people covered cases , some people did a lot of theory and others a balance.

    It is what every works for the individual at the end of the day. We have all put the work in , in our own way .

    For me the learning that comes with the cases has stopped.
    I feel that the final two weeks will be better spent on technical material / NOT THEORY and filling the gaps that the cases and in particular Paul Monahan has left out.

    Absolutely, as I had said, just my opinion. Whatever works for you.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭Aidodub87


    Sweet - just found out I passed P1, P2 & P3 ACCA exams I sat in June there as a backup plan! Less pressure for FAEs now. If I fail FAEs again, 2 more ACCA exams to pass and I'm on my merry way. Get in.

    That's actually mad... Why didn't I think of that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    Aidodub87 wrote: »
    That's actually mad... Why didn't I think of that

    And me....

    How much were the fees Ron?

    Well done on that Ron - tough ask with a full time job and no study leave.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17 Schickadee


    Hi guys jus got my mock feedback today, it says there's no evidence of planning? I'm confused are we supposed to plan our answers in the answer booklet even though u can't write in them til reading time is up? Plse help


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 812 ✭✭✭Dellboy2007


    Just wondering, Sean Murray is always on about hats and putting on your auditors hat, etc. Question:

    1) do we get these on the way into the RDS

    I've been looking on done deal for the last week but haven't seen any. Could anyone who is repeating please give us a heads up on this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 812 ✭✭✭Dellboy2007


    Also, the girl who does the tax lectures, what's the story with her, is she single like?


  • Registered Users Posts: 17 Schickadee


    Full metal jacket!!!! Wtf!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 812 ✭✭✭Dellboy2007


    Schickadee wrote: »
    Full metal jacket!!!! Wtf!

    Why are people getting so worked up over this? It's a 1987 war film directed and produced by Stanley Kubrick. The screenplay by Kubrick, Michael Herr and Gustav Hasford was based on Hasford's 1979 novel The Short-Timers. The film stars Matthew Modine, Adam Baldwin, Vincent D'Onofrio, R. Lee Ermey, Dorian Harewood, Arliss Howard, Kevyn Major Howard and Ed O'Ross. The story follows a platoon of U.S. Marines through their training and the experiences of two of the platoon's Marines in the Tet Offensive during the Vietnam War. The film's title refers to the full metal jacket bullet used by infantry riflemen. The film was released in the United States on June 26, 1987.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Schickadee wrote: »
    Hi guys jus got my mock feedback today, it says there's no evidence of planning? I'm confused are we supposed to plan our answers in the answer booklet even though u can't write in them til reading time is up? Plse help


    Thank you! I can't see how you are supposed to wait 30 mins to plan an answer. Already well into planning at that stage


  • Registered Users Posts: 192 ✭✭conor1979


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Thank you! I can't see how you are supposed to wait 30 mins to plan an answer. Already well into planning at that stage

    I highlight the issues on the exam as I am reading it first time around. Then I read it a second time and write the issues (big & small) on my own paper.

    After the 30 mins reading time is up I have a long list of issues. As they are all on one page I try spot which are the indicators and then write them into the book crossing them off as I do so.

    Then I look at what issues are left and how I can incorporate them into the other indicators.

    I did this in the mocks and my feedback said that I had planned very well. Unfortunately it was the only good feedback I got!!!:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 George Huxley 1983


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Thank you! I can't see how you are supposed to wait 30 mins to plan an answer. Already well into planning at that stage

    Agree with both. Seems a waste of time to me to again write out your plan again so that it is in the booklet. For no marks I might add. It's not as if we've got time to spare


  • Registered Users Posts: 17 Schickadee


    FMJ All I'm saying Is I doubt there's a qualified cima management accountant that cud tackle that one without frustration!!!! Dellboy I appreciate the humour but too depressed to give a smart answ back!lol


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  • Registered Users Posts: 31 Philip1988


    How do ppl determine if an indicator is finance or strategy? Alot of the financial analysis seem to be down as strategy indicators


  • Registered Users Posts: 40 laser08


    Why are people getting so worked up over this? It's a 1987 war film directed and produced by Stanley Kubrick. The screenplay by Kubrick, Michael Herr and Gustav Hasford was based on Hasford's 1979 novel The Short-Timers. The film stars Matthew Modine, Adam Baldwin, Vincent D'Onofrio, R. Lee Ermey, Dorian Harewood, Arliss Howard, Kevyn Major Howard and Ed O'Ross. The story follows a platoon of U.S. Marines through their training and the experiences of two of the platoon's Marines in the Tet Offensive during the Vietnam War. The film's title refers to the full metal jacket bullet used by infantry riflemen. The film was released in the United States on June 26, 1987.

    My god you try so hard to be funny. Do we have to put up with another 4 weeks of your really **** 'jokes'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 812 ✭✭✭Dellboy2007


    laser08 wrote: »
    My god you try so hard to be funny. Do we have to put up with another 4 weeks of your really **** 'jokes'

    Stop trying to be hard, you'll never be half the man your mother is you dry-sh1te keyboard warrior.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Left the actual papers and gone back to a mock paper


    Paul is one sick individual


  • Registered Users Posts: 380 ✭✭PhilipLuke


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Left the actual papers and gone back to a mock paper


    Paul is one sick individual

    I have been doing all self study case studies, are the actual exam papers that bit easier??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Did all the case days and the integrated case studies then went to the actual papers

    The answers required in the actual papers aren't anywhere near as much as Pauls cases


  • Registered Users Posts: 165 ✭✭Accountant81


    PhilipLuke wrote: »
    I have been doing all self study case studies, are the actual exam papers that bit easier??

    I thought so but then I looked at core comp 2012 today and thought that was tricky enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 PeteF


    Philip1988 wrote: »
    Hi would anybody have any good summary notes for Transfer Pricing?

    Hi Philip,

    I've added a Transfer Pricing note to the Business Leadership notes on Chartered Education. You can see a small preview from our Facebook page.

    - Pete
    Chartered Education


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 812 ✭✭✭Dellboy2007


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  • Registered Users Posts: 17 Schickadee


    Lol love it


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12 bonni


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Did all the case days and the integrated case studies then went to the actual papers

    The answers required in the actual papers aren't anywhere near as much as Pauls cases

    Do you mind if I ask how much time it took you to do all of that? I feel like I am running out of time..


  • Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭Tricky1979


    PeteF wrote: »
    Hi Philip,

    I've added a Transfer Pricing note to the Business Leadership notes on Chartered Education. You can see a small preview from our Facebook page.

    - Pete
    Chartered Education

    Hi - can somebody post this on boards or where is Chartered Education?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,220 ✭✭✭20 Times 20 Times


    bonni wrote: »
    Do you mind if I ask how much time it took you to do all of that? I feel like I am running out of time..

    Well you have three weeks left not three months


  • Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭acastudent


    Every day I wake up with hope , today maybe will be a day when it all come together . Didn't happen just yet ....

    Quick question though do you guys time yourself when doing cases ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 523 ✭✭✭Mark1916


    acastudent wrote: »
    Every day I wake up with hope , today maybe will be a day when it all come together . Didn't happen just yet ....

    Quick question though do you guys time yourself when doing cases ?

    Haven't yet but planning on doing that next week using my timing with indicators c22-23 mins per indicator and make adjustments if needed!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 452 ✭✭littlemiss123


    acastudent wrote: »
    Every day I wake up with hope , today maybe will be a day when it all come together . Didn't happen just yet ....

    I too am waiting for this day...


  • Registered Users Posts: 39 jny107


    PeteF wrote: »
    Hi Philip,

    I've added a Transfer Pricing note to the Business Leadership notes on Chartered Education. You can see a small preview from our Facebook page.

    - Pete
    Chartered Education

    Would somebody mind posting this up here or PM it to me please??


  • Registered Users Posts: 39 jny107


    For anyone who has done Mechelec case in he integrated pack - can you tell me how they got figures for capex in the DCF? And also the opening increase in WC of 4,382??
    Almost convinced they have pulled this from their @rse!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 452 ✭✭littlemiss123


    jny107 wrote: »
    Would somebody mind posting this up here or PM it to me please??

    It's on this website: http://www.charterededucation.com/

    You have to pay to access the materials.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 452 ✭✭littlemiss123


    It's on this website: http://www.charterededucation.com/

    You have to pay to access the materials.

    The management accounting notes are only €9, they are well worth the (small) investment in my opinion, seen as we never got decent notes at CAP 2 or FAE level.


  • Registered Users Posts: 523 ✭✭✭Mark1916


    jny107 wrote: »
    For anyone who has done Mechelec case in he integrated pack - can you tell me how they got figures for capex in the DCF? And also the opening increase in WC of 4,382??
    Almost convinced they have pulled this from their @rse!

    The CAPEX figure is just depreciation (they made that assumption) and I couldn't figure out the opening increase in WC


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 tomboy42


    Hey would anyone have the 2013 mock papers and solutions for the core and the sims?

    I had it on a usb but now can't find the USB and it's no longer in the student centre as it's been replaced by the 2014 mocks.

    It's stressing me out!

    Any help would be major appreciated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    I Do like how any case where the accounts have been prepared by XYZ public Accountants, there are always errors


  • Registered Users Posts: 380 ✭✭PhilipLuke


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    I Do like how any case where the accounts have been prepared by XYZ public Accountants, there are always errors

    They will never be as good as Paul Monohon!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭autumnbelle


    Well today was a total disaster. How are any of you laying out your tax folder


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    I Do like how any case where the accounts have been prepared by XYZ public Accountants, there are always errors

    Strange alright.... hmmmmm....

    It's all in the acronyms...

    ACA - A Chartered Accountant
    ACCA - A Crap Chartered Accountant
    CPA - Car Park Attendant

    For those of you that may be a bit young to remember, ACA and CPA were talking about merging at one stage. I was in the law game at the time. There were some persons in a certain influential firm who were absolutely hopping off the walls about the idea was the story; apparently some headbutts nearly thrown at meetings...

    For one reason or another, didn't go ahead....

    So I do think there is a view out there, that at least some level of bad sentiment exists towards CPA by some FCA's; but as regards Paul and his cases, I wouldn't read that much in to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭autumnbelle


    Myshirt you make me laugh on this thread :) very much needed today :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 812 ✭✭✭Dellboy2007


    myshirt wrote: »
    Strange alright.... hmmmmm....

    It's all in the acronyms...

    ACA - A Chartered Accountant
    ACCA - A Crap Chartered Accountant
    CPA - Car Park Attendant

    For those of you that may be a bit young to remember, ACA and CPA were talking about merging at one stage. I was in the law game at the time. There were some persons in a certain influential firm who were absolutely hopping off the walls about the idea was the story; apparently some headbutts nearly thrown at meetings...

    For one reason or another, didn't go ahead....

    So I do think there is a view out there, that at least some level of bad sentiment exists towards CPA by some FCA's; but as regards Paul and his cases, I wouldn't read that much in to it.

    Do you think CIA were behind 9-11 also by any chance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    Do you think CIA were behind 9-11 also by any chance?

    Ah chill man, just joshing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭cian twomey


    regarding IMP as it is the last year as one of the super 6 do you think it would be enough just to cover past questions for the exam and it would seem unlikely that they would ask something overly difficult in this area?


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