They don't even pay road tax Joe. **Off topic thread**

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Wishbone Ash wrote: »

I've seen it all now!

Could do with a few of those hanging from the saddle for group spins. Help with all all that f@rting....

Kinet1c

Pinch Flat wrote: »

Could do with a few of those hanging from the saddle for group spins. Help with all all that f@rting....

laraghrider

seamus wrote: »

To my surprise, I had to hit 10 sets of reds before I saw a cyclist break one.

Wish I could say the same. Every single red light I hit today a cyclist broke it. That being said all bar 2 were also broken by motorists. What irks me though is the idiots that assume sure a pedestrian light is fine to break which means a busy junctions such as tempelogue bridge is also fair game.

zl1whqvjs75cdy

If I'm sitting at a junction and the pedestrian light goes I tend to take off once it goes orange, (if I know my set are next of course). I prefer to be clipped in and moving before the traffic behind gets moving.

Junior

seamus wrote: »

Impromptu science experiment this morning: I encountered 15 sets of red lights; cars broke the red at 9 of them. Clearly we need them to pay more road tax, more insurance and have a ticker-style reg plate surrounding the entire vehicle to ensure that this menace is stopped. Shocking it was, Joe.

To my surprise, I had to hit 10 sets of reds before I saw a cyclist break one.

I think all cars should be a HIGH VIS Yellow too..

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laraghrider wrote: »

Wish I could say the same. Every single red light I hit today a cyclist broke it. That being said all bar 2 were also broken by motorists. What irks me though is the idiots that assume sure a pedestrian light is fine to break which means a busy junctions such as tempelogue bridge is also fair game.

So here's my commute picking up from castle knock to merrion st upper:

Castleknock gate - me and another cyclist waiting in the box, both waited for red. No cyclist breaks the lights. Passed a few cyclists in the park - I'm stopped at red lights parkgate st - the cyclists I overtook now merrily sail through a red at the courts building - me and maybe 2 others stopped.

All lights obeyed more or less down the quays - up Christchurch and on to cuffe st - have green lights at the top of the hill and red as we reach jury's. as we enter the green, through the cars that ignore the yellow box here and also the odd taxi driver that skips up left and then ducks across right on the green.

At baggot st I take a left onto merrion st - at this point I'm the only cyclist waiting my turn to go left at a red light. At least half a dozen ignore the pedestrian crossing and plough through.

Qualitymark

Sometimes - if you're cycling reasonably slowly and cautiously - it's safe to break a red light. Look at the Idaho Stop.

laraghrider

Qualitymark wrote: »

Sometimes - if you're cycling reasonably slowly and cautiously - it's safe to break a red light. Look at the Idaho Stop.

Didn't realize that was part of the rules of the road over here.

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laraghrider wrote: »

Didn't realize that was part of the rules of the road over here.

Been honest I think if should be brought in. As well as being able to turn left on a red (provided it's safe to do so)

Chips Lovell

I think it's a terrible idea. As it stands, a lot of cyclists already fail to stop at the line and, once they do that, you've no idea if they're going to stop or keep going if you're coming through the junction. It forces other road users into stuff like unnecessary braking on junctions or roundabouts.

Alek

Originally Posted by Qualitymark
Sometimes - if you're cycling reasonably slowly and cautiously - it's safe to break a red light. Look at the Idaho Stop.

Unusual place name for Ireland.

cdaly_

donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »

If I'm sitting at a junction and the pedestrian light goes I tend to take off once it goes orange, (if I know my set are next of course). I prefer to be clipped in and moving before the traffic behind gets moving.

You need to work on your track standing...

Qualitymark

Alek wrote: »

Unusual place name for Ireland.

Sometimes we import sensible ideas from other countries. But perhaps Ireland's current psychology, with everyone so much at war against everyone else, and the 'common good' failing, doesn't make us the best society to start using something like the Idaho Stop, which requires mutual tolerance and courtesy.

Alek

Sometimes we import sensible ideas from other countries

This is very good. But until actually imported, they should not be applied.

Lusk_Doyle

seamus wrote: »

Impromptu science experiment this morning: I encountered 15 sets of red lights; cars broke the red at 9 of them. Clearly we need them to pay more road tax, more insurance and have a ticker-style reg plate surrounding the entire vehicle to ensure that this menace is stopped. Shocking it was, Joe.

To my surprise, I had to hit 10 sets of reds before I saw a cyclist break one.

Observed something strange while driving my car this morning. Some mad cyclist rode into ten sets of lights for some unknown reason. Maybe he didn't like the colour?

magicbastarder

Lusk_Doyle wrote: »

Some mad cyclist rode into ten sets of lights for some unknown reason.

i hope you called an ambulance for him.

ROK ON

So, my five year old son fractured his tibia yesterday. While it is too late for him to enter the Vuelta this year, I really fancy his chances for Lombardia. He isn't back training yet, but apparently either was Alberto.

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ROK ON wrote: »

So, my five year old son fractured his tibia yesterday. While it is too late for him to enter the Vuelta this year, I really fancy his chances for Lombardia. He isn't back training yet, but apparently either was Alberto.

Oh no The poor little mite is he Ok pain wise? Is he flying around on crutches yet giving you a heat attack? He might be able to have decorating his class's art class : pac: ah no seriously though get well soon wee man!

Beasty

Based on the combined injury toll of forum regulars as well as their relatives, methinks the sooner we see the end of 2014 the better....

Wishbone Ash

Beasty wrote: »

.. methinks the sooner we see the end of 2014 the better....

Beasty, you sound like the Queen re: 1992!

rollingscone

Beasty wrote: »

Based on the combined injury toll of forum regulars as well as their relatives, methinks the sooner we see the end of 2014 the better....

Is it too late to get an armoured version of the boards kit onto the winter order?

Beasty

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Beasty, you sound like the Queen re: 1992!

Nah - Freddie was already dead by then - Was definitely impressed with them in 1985 (Live Aid) and 1986 (Knebworth) though .....

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Beasty wrote: »

Nah - Freddie was already dead by then - Was definitely impressed with them in 1985 (Live Aid) and 1986 (Knebworth) though .....

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annus_horribilis

Not to be confused with the similar sounding affliction that occurs after 10 hours in the saddle....

Dermot Illogical

Beasty wrote: »

Nah - Freddie was already dead by then - Was definitely impressed with them in 1985 (Live Aid) and 1986 (Knebworth) though .....

As was I in 1984 at the RDS. They were a fantastic band live.

magicbastarder

Beasty wrote: »

Based on the combined injury toll of forum regulars as well as their relatives, methinks the sooner we see the end of 2014 the better....

i was just thinking last night that i'm going to avoid any cyclists with boards.ie jerseys next time i'm out. you seem like an accident prone bunch.

Beasty

Pinch Flat wrote: »

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annus_horribilis



Not to be confused with the similar sounding affliction that occurs after 10 hours in the saddle....

Just to be clear - I am "me" and not "one" ....

Beasty

Dermot Illogical wrote: »

As was I in 1984 at the RDS. They were a fantastic band live.

That show at Knebworth was the best live performance I've ever seen.

Chips Lovell

Unfortunate name for chamois cream:

niceonetom

If you're not into smearing it on your nethers you could just opt for a xplosion in your mouth.

Alek

Noooooooooooooo!!!!

runs away

rubadub

Qualitymark wrote: »

Sometimes - if you're cycling reasonably slowly and cautiously - it's safe to break a red light. Look at the Idaho Stop.

laraghrider wrote: »

Didn't realize that was part of the rules of the road over here.

Its not rules of the road here, but its a reason why many garda will sensibly not enforce the law which is technically being broken, the sensible gardai preumably know what the law actually set out to prevent and so enforce it as such.

In many threads you see this confusion, I expect & hope it is mainly feigned confusion about why gardai do not prosecute people cycling on footpaths while they would go after a juggernaut breaking lights at huge speed.

I would worry about the sanity of a garda going after a 5 year old cycling on a footpath.

Chips Lovell

I like the way you got the strawman of the 5 year old cycling on a footpath in there at the end. That was good.

Dermot Illogical

Beasty wrote: »

That show at Knebworth was the best live performance I've ever seen.

They were at the peak of their powers, weren't they? The RDS gig was streets ahead of any other concert I've been to. It helped that a bunch of us got to Simmonscourt Rd early and queued so we could leg it to the front when the doors opened. We got front & centre and had a ball.
I wouldn't have been a huge fan, being more into Motorhead and Led Zeppelin at the time, but I recognised greatness when I saw it.

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My lip balm makes me giggle when I use it…


In your endo!

ETA they are not my hands obviously!

Dermot Illogical

gadetra wrote: »

My lip balm makes me giggle when I use it…


In your endo!

ETA they are not my hands obviously!

Look what you just made me think!

seamus

My brother just texted me, "Have you got a spare bike?".

I have 3 bikes, and none of them are spare. What if I got an emergency call up for the Vuelta tomorrow?

rubadub

Oscar Gateaux wrote: »

I like the way you got the strawman of the 5 year old cycling on a footpath in there at the end. That was good.

Unfortunately it is not a strawman for many people, they had not specifically talked of kids on bikes, but their argument certainly covered this. Some seemingly would want it to happen, I have seen people saying they would like the law to be enforced in every single case, not a single exception.

Loads of posters feign ignorance about why garda do not enforce the law. I suggested going into a garda station and reporting a theoretical 5 year old cycling on paths, or asking why it is tolerated, and this might answer the question they pretend not to know the answer to. Not once did any of them come back and say "ah here, sure that's ridiculous, you know I didn't mean that" -so I would take their silence to mean they do in fact agree -or rather would have to agree to save face rather than admit their suggestion is ridiculous.

I have given other similar ludicrous examples to illustrate why the law is not always enforced to which there was never a response like "hmm maybe you have a point there". e.g. prosecuting a woman who illegally crossed the road to flee an attacker or large dog chasing her. There was no letup, I did want to make a mockery of these posters.

If you don't know why the garda do not always enforce the law then I don't think you should be walking the streets alone, and have far more serious things to be worrying about.

Chips Lovell

Garda sees cyclist breaking red light.

"Hmmm. They could be fleeing a large dog. Better not stop them."

seamus

rubadub wrote: »

I have seen people saying they would like the law to be enforced in every single case, not a single exception.

Look, what people want is very simple. They want the law to be enforced for everyone else, but leave them alone because they can use their own judgement to decide if an action is good or bad.

Like the woman I saw yesterday screaming in the face of a cyclist about "red light", while she herself crossed the road when the little man was red.

This is why it is intellectually dishonest to skirt the issue and claim that it's OK to break the law in some instances on the basis that the Gardai don't care and/or it's not important and/or it's not that unsafe. The law is broken whether or not you get caught.

rubadub

Oscar Gateaux wrote: »

Garda sees cyclist breaking red light.

"Hmmm. They could be fleeing a large dog. Better not stop them."

That would be an example of a stupid garda. Fortunately most I come across are sensible.

seamus wrote: »

This is why it is intellectually dishonest to skirt the issue and claim that it's OK to break the law in some instances on the basis that the Gardai don't care and/or it's not important

I am asking people to ask themselves why the gardai are not enforcing the law, I reckon most already know the answer. It really bugs me when gobshites ask questions that they already know the answer to. I am not asking if its OK to break the law.

magicbastarder

FWIW, when i was about eight or nine, i was ordered off the footpath and onto the road by a garda, on blanchardstown main street.

Wishbone Ash

Anyone else have Garmin/Strava problems this morning? The first 30kms of my ride is 'missing' despite displaying normally en route. Someone I'm following also 'lost' half their ride this morning.

Alek

Except for showing unnaturaly slow average speed, no issues. :rolleyes:

zl1whqvjs75cdy

Alek wrote: »

Except for showing unnaturaly slow average speed, no issues. :rolleyes:

Mine's doing that too.

Darkglasses

Alek wrote: »

Except for showing unnaturaly slow average speed, no issues. :rolleyes:

Fit two speed sensor magnets to your front wheel, that'll fix it.

Alek

Darkglasses wrote: »

Fit two speed sensor magnets to your front wheel, that'll fix it.

Darkglasses

Jens Voigt is going to try for the one hour record on Sept 18th

Full story

Chips Lovell

"Surivival kit" left by Pozzato's mechanic for him before yesterday's TT. That's a 34/32.

Beasty

Darkglasses wrote: »

Jens Voigt is going to try for the one hour record on Sept 18th

Full story

It would be a nice way to bow out, but I would be staggered if he gets it. You can't switch off the road and suddenly become a "pursuiter" just like that, not nowadays anyway. I reckon you need months to properly prepare for that, unless you're a real TT specialist like Tony Martin

Eamonnator

Darkglasses wrote: »

Jens Voigt is going to try for the one hour record on Sept 18th

Full story

Yeah, he's going to try and do it in 59 minutes.