They don't even pay road tax Joe. **Off topic thread**

Chips Lovell

I think it's a canny move by Voigt. The easing of equipment regulations means he has a chance of breaking it before the big guns have a chance to take a run at it.

Junior

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNVeMNKLen8

lennymc

^^^^ i think i want a mountain bike....

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Beasty wrote: »

It would be a nice way to bow out, but I would be staggered if he gets it. You can't switch off the road and suddenly become a "pursuiter" just like that, not nowadays anyway. I reckon you need months to properly prepare for that, unless you're a real TT specialist like Tony Martin

He can get into a good position on the bike, he is able to handle being out on his own mentally well and keep the power on. I think he'll do well, he has a pretty deadly base fitness for it. Intense training between now and then, I don't see why he couldn't do it, at least bookend the two hour record eras, (the one yet to come). Plus I like Jensie.

irishbuzz

gadetra wrote: »

He can get into a good position on the bike, he is able to handle being out on his own mentally well and keep the power on. I think he'll do well, he has a pretty deadly base fitness for it. Intense training between now and then, I don't see why he couldn't do it, at least bookend the two hour record eras, (the one yet to come). Plus I like Jensie.

One other big plus on his side, of course, is his ability to get his legs to shut up.

Zyzz

Oh the cringe.

Although the saddle trying to escape is pretty funny :pac:

RobFowl

Beasty wrote: »

It would be a nice way to bow out, but I would be staggered if he gets it. You can't switch off the road and suddenly become a "pursuiter" just like that, not nowadays anyway. I reckon you need months to properly prepare for that, unless you're a real TT specialist like Tony Martin

i would be surprised but not that much. Its a relatively weak record. Merckx set it in 1970 and following that it was superseded by better technology. The 90's were a golden age with Obree, Boardman, Indurain and Rominger . The UCI the decided to set back the clock and return to a generation old technology (while at the same time ignoring EPO !).
Boardman beat the mark when well past his best for various reasons and then 1 doper and another unknown appeared from nowhere to inch past it then return to where they came from...
A well prepared rider using modern technology (despite the aero limitations) should beat it. Voigt is probably too old but apart from that is the best rider to test the record since Merckx/Boardman.
Martin and Cancellara should beat him but I would really like to see Wiggins put it on the shelf for his generation of cyclists. In the future the like of Phinney will hopefully go for it too.

Beasty

RobFowl wrote: »

A well prepared rider using modern technology (despite the aero limitations) should beat it.

I agree - but he is giving himself a few weeks to "prepare" - I just think, particularly for someone of his age, a much longer preparation period is required

quozl

The article says

We have been doing some discrete tests in the velodrome in Roubaix prior to the Dauphiné and we believe that I have a fair chance,” said Voigt.

so I'd guess that he's been quietly working on this for some time but is only publicising it now.

niceonetom

quozl wrote: »

The article says so I'd guess that he's been quietly working on this for some time but is only publicising it now.

Judicious use of "we" there from Jens. I'd say he is relatively new to the project and he's the inheritor of work done by Trek with Cancellara. Just a guess.

Fabian and his staff must have had a good hard look at the record when the new regs came out and done some maths and real world testing to see if he could beat it and by how much. Fabs seems to have lost the real fire for TTing now he's no longer top of the pile so may not be as motivated to do what might ultimately be a very short lived record that'll get demolished by a certain German. Jens on the other hand has nothing to lose. He was never the greatest TTer of his generation (though very very capable), has no other targets to interfere with his prep, is starting a new career as a cycling related celeb instead of a pro rider, and Trek will doubt be very keen to have someone to put that research into practice.

It'll be great. Go Jens.

Kinet1c

So very close to claiming my first KOMs on strava today, 1s and 2s on different segments :mad:

seamus

More claims of bike doping with mini motors....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0uGFYHzHJM

Seems like a very odd effect, but with the video slowed down it's hard to say. If the rear wheel was still spinning after the crash, it could easily do this.

laraghrider

Considering Ryder is 24mins down on GC that's a pretty crap motor he's got in that bike!

Ole Rodrigo

seamus wrote: »

More claims of bike doping with mini motors....

Seems like a very odd effect, but with the video slowed down it's hard to say. If the rear wheel was still spinning after the crash, it could easily do this.

The torque wouldn't be there to spin the entire bike unless there was a motor, IMO. The wheel might still be spinning but it would have lost most of its energy, ordinarily.

If there is no motor, I'd like a pair of those hubs

Fian

ror_74 wrote: »

The torque wouldn't be there to spin the entire bike unless there was a motor, IMO. The wheel might still be spinning but it would have lost most of its energy, ordinarily.

If there is no motor, I'd like a pair of those hubs

looks like maybe his right foot was caught in the bike after he fell which caused it to spin around him and ths spin continued after he detached his foot? Maybe not but that + the spinning wheel could together perhaps give rise to this?

I can't imagine that people would actually get away with a motor in the hub without detection.

Junior

Ok that didn't work .. Alex Rasmussen shows us how it's done http://instagram.com/p/sh0fSPirPW/

Eamonnator

ror_74 wrote: »

The torque wouldn't be there to spin the entire bike unless there was a motor, IMO. The wheel might still be spinning but it would have lost most of its energy, ordinarily.

If there is no motor, I'd like a pair of those hubs

Just checked, thought it was Friday, for a second.

furiousox

I laughed 'til I cried!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpPRavanSGI

Eamonnator

Is it still only Thursday:

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/sep/04/ryder-hesjedal-motorised-bike-vuelta-espana

rollingscone

Chatting to my quasi-septugenarian dad today. He's getting bored with his usual 40-50 loop around the lakes so he did the Crooksling to Tallaght descent and return drag passed another roadie on the way back up and then decided he was home too early so went and did the first half of his normal circuit.

His time on the bike is limited by having to look after my mother but he's talking about making it up to the gap and back within his two hour window :-o

#pleaseleritbegenetic

Chips Lovell

Awesome descending skills

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFjXwG1Nus4

Moflojo

I'd like to thank Irwin for stopping & helping me sort out my chain on the Rock Road this morning. My frustration was starting to get the better of me before he stopped. Either the bike or I would not have survived the impending blowout.

magicbastarder

Oscar Gateaux wrote: »

Awesome descending skills

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-eGDyaOYpE

magicbastarder

so my bike started making a clicking noise about 100km ago which has kinda become a light creaking sound, but is not there when i freewheel. chain and jockey wheels were recently lubed (which got rid of another slight squealing noise).
how do i grease up the BB to check if it's a lubrication issue there? haven't taken cranks off a bike in about 25 years, and they were cheapo cotter pin ones.

cdaly_

You have to take off the cranks and strip the BB to lube it. Not a hard job but get new cotter pins first (just in case).

magicbastarder

sorry, i meant the previous cranks i'd done were not the ones on the bike. it's a 12 year old shimano 105 BB, with not an incredible amount of mileage on it. the cranks are hollowtech, but not hollowtech II.
i may just leave it to the LBS.

rollingscone

Coming back through Finglas today when I hit a lateral cut in the road at about 49kph. Got a savage jolt through my right wrist which has since started to swell.

Turns out that neoprene knee warmers folded around an ice pack make a handy wearable compress.

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So I went and got a second opinion on the collarbone, and man am I glad I did! The second doc, shoulder specialist couldn't believe I was going to be left as is. She said that given the level of displacement and fore-shortening that the bone was never going to reverse and down back straight again, and I would be left with permanent shortening unbalanced shoulders which would impact the strength and endurance capabilities of the shoulder! Couldn't believe it! Given my age and levels of activity and fitness I should have been plated and pinned right away.

In the original hospital, which I think is the best one you could be in, or so I thought anyway, the doc rolled his eyes at me when I said I wanted to talk to an ortho person. I felt like a tool so I left without speaking to them. I went in on Monday to them to get a brace and got the same reaction when I asked what would be done with me. I'm glad I dug deeper.

There is also a hole in my elbow that has yet to stop weeping/bleeding which has gone into the muscle and is mm's away from the bone. The surgeon said she'd have a go at that when she was doing the collarbone. It wasn't picked up in the when I went in first, and I had to unpeel it from the sling myself on the Monday (it had kind of seeped into it and joined up with it :eek:) which was not pleasant! Second doc lady said it should have been stitched To be fair though they were mad busy and I didn't point it out thinking it was just more road (track!) rash!
I'm getting plated and pinned on Tuesday, looking forward to not having half a collarbone poking out anymore and it being more secure, and getting back at it sooner.

TL; DR- get a second opinion!

rollingscone

Busy or not bacterial infection reaching the bone marrow would not have ended well I'm surprised you weren't buried alive in prophylaxes the moment they pinged it...don't be a hard nut/Mrs Doyle about it.

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rollingscone wrote: »

Busy or not bacterial infection reaching the bone marrow would not have ended well I'm surprised you weren't buried alive in prophylaxes the moment they pinged it...don't be a hard nut/Mrs Doyle about it.

I'm just going out to do the roof now father

I fel a letter to original hospital coming no but I don't want to be a cúnt about it either, I mean they did look after me too so swings and roundabouts.

ROK ON

gadetra wrote: »

I'm just going out to do the roof now father

I fel a letter to original hospital coming no but I don't want to be a cúnt about it either, I mean they did look after me too so swings and roundabouts.

If you are at risk of infection from what you consumed to be poor practice then get a solicitor to write that letter.
Why are you being a cnut when you are simply looking out for your health and well being.
You asked a to speak with a specialist and you were derided by the professional who is there to help you - the duty of care here runs from that person to you, not the other way around.

Inquitus

gadetra wrote: »

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Indeed I was in Wexford General after a crash at the Wexford 2 day, they addressed immediate concerns about my knee wounds and potential neck injury and the care I got was top notch, but I did mention I thought I had broken my finger but with a cursory examination they said it looked fine and didn't x-ray.

It was only when I went to the VHI Swift clinic to get the stitches out in my knee out that the doctor there quizzed me not only on the knee stitches that I wanted removed but insisted on checking the other damaged areas. I showed him my finger and he examined it and confirmed a break via x-ray and the fact I had mallet finger. I had presumed myself that it would just heal and had ignored it largely.

If I hadn't got it diagnosed and treated, very simple to treat, I just have to wear a plastic "cast" for a month, I would have had a disfigured finger for life.

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Gosh I never thought of doing anything that serious Rok On, I mean they were mad busy, I was more wanting to draw their attention to the attitude of the doc at the time, who made me feel like shyte whilst already feeling pretty ****ty. When I mentioned about a second opinion he rolled his eyes again and said 'Well you could but they're all going to say the same thing so there's no point'. So I expected second doc to say the same.

Iniquitus ouch, that looks sore. It seems amazing they could miss something so obviously damaged, I mean that looks wrong to me and I have 0 medical training and experience. I suppose the other bits of you must have been so bad they never looked at it

rollingscone

gadetra wrote: »

Gosh I never thought of doing anything that serious Rok On, I mean they were mad busy, I was more wanting to draw their attention to the attitude of the doc at the time, who made me feel like shyte whilst already feeling pretty ****ty. When I mentioned about a second opinion he rolled his eyes again and said 'Well you could but they're all going to say the same thing so there's no point'. So I expected second doc to say the same.

Iniquitus ouch, that looks sore. It seems amazing they could miss something so obviously damaged, I mean that looks wrong to me and I have 0 medical training and experience. I suppose the other bits of you must have been so bad they never looked at it

I was going to say you could write a non aggressive letter stating the issues but RoK on may also have a point.

Garzard

Brought my Trek into Think Bike's workshop on Thursday expecting all it needed was a relatively simple service but not looking great - BB, both gear inners, & chain all need replacing, along with possible new cranks, wheel truing & handlebar alignment. Could amount to €180 if I include the service cost. Entirely my own fault though since the bike has taken a hell of an amount of abuse in the two years I've had it without any real service aside from the occasional new brake pads, puncture repairs, re-lubrication etc.

quozl

Handle bar alignment? What on earth did you do to it ;-)

rollingscone

Garzard wrote: »

Brought my Trek into Think Bike's workshop on Thursday expecting all it needed was a relatively simple service but not looking great - BB, both gear inners, & chain all need replacing, along with possible new cranks, wheel truing & handlebar alignment. Could amount to €180 if I include the service cost. Entirely my own fault though since the bike has taken a hell of an amount of abuse in the two years I've had it without any real service aside from the occasional new brake pads, puncture repairs, re-lubrication etc.

Inner cables and chain are a given after two years of regular use. I'd be shocked if trek used a cottage cheese bb though. Do you keep the bike inside. ?

Also do you leave it parked next to the sea?


I serviced/resurrected a mate's sirrus after a year it being locked next to the pier in Dun Laoghaire...there were actual salt crystals in the bb.

Garzard

quozl wrote: »

Handle bar alignment? What on earth did you do to it ;-)

Just happened over time I guess - in fairness they were only very slightly misaligned but still enough to wreck anybody's head.

rollingscone wrote: »

Inner cables and chain are a given after two years of regular use. I'd be shocked if trek used a cottage cheese bb though. Do you keep the bike inside. ?

Also do you leave it parked next to the sea?

I serviced/resurrected a mate's sirrus after a year it being locked next to the pier in Dun Laoghaire...there were actual salt crystals in the bb.

Nowhere near the sea, but the bike is typically kept outdoors unfortunately due to the relative lack of space inside. The bike itself + cables & gears weren't particularly rusty, though most of any rust could have been prevented by using dedicated bike lube instead of plain old WD40. Lesson learned there. I also must look at a small bike shed or plastic cover for it, whichever offers better protection.

cdaly_

Garzard wrote: »

dedicated bike lube instead of plain old WD40. Lesson learned there. I also must look at a small bike shed or plastic cover for it, whichever offers better protection.

WD40 is a water dispersant, not a lube. Use proper oil on chain and cables.

A plastic cover is not a good idea outdoors as it will trap moisture on the bike. You're better off with some kind of roof and sides with open ends so the bike stays dry but air can circulate.

blobbie

rollingscone wrote: »

I was going to say you could write a non aggressive letter stating the issues but RoK on may also have a point.

http://www.healthcomplaints.ie/

Get in touch with the hospital. The only way crap service (regardless of whether it happens at hospital/restaurant/shop/where ever) will be improved is if the crap service is brought to peoples attention so as they can address it (if they are ar$ed).

magicbastarder

cdaly_ wrote: »

WD40 is a water dispersant, not a lube. Use proper oil on chain and cables.

The WD stands for water displacement. The 40 stands for the 40th attempt at the formulation.

Qualitymark

cdaly_ wrote: »

WD40 is a water dispersant, not a lube. Use proper oil on chain and cables..

What kinda oil you talkin about, my guru?

Alek

What kinda oil you talkin about, my guru?

In example this one:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=bicycle+chain+oil

Qualitymark

Ah, another addition to th'oul ignore list after a clever-clever answer to a polite question.

Beasty

blobbie wrote: »

http://www.healthcomplaints.ie/

Get in touch with the hospital. The only way crap service (regardless of whether it happens at hospital/restaurant/shop/where ever) will be improved is if the crap service is brought to peoples attention so as they can address it (if they are ar$ed).

I could write a book on some of my medical experiences (both Newry and Dublin) following my crash earlier this year, and that's just the stuff I can remember...

Lusk_Doyle

Beasty wrote: »

I could write a book on some of my medical experiences (both Newry and Dublin) following my crash earlier this year, and that's just the stuff I can remember...

What's stopping you?

Beasty

Lusk_Doyle wrote: »

What's stopping you?

Still trying to remember all the really "interesting" stuff ....

rollingscone

Working four hours in my 'old' part time job this morning despite the impending return of my new 9-5 tomorrow.

The knowledge that this will pay for a set of Scirrocos makes it all worth while.

Garzard

cdaly_ wrote: »

WD40 is a water dispersant, not a lube. Use proper oil on chain and cables.

A plastic cover is not a good idea outdoors as it will trap moisture on the bike. You're better off with some kind of roof and sides with open ends so the bike stays dry but air can circulate.

When I pick up the bike during the week I'll ask them to recommend a lube / grease and check out what they have in the shop.

Keeping it indoors might be an option but because of space constraints, its bulkiness means the bike would have to be constantly disassembled [albeit only partially] every time. Room could probably also be made in the main shed though.

rollingscone

Garzard wrote: »

When I pick up the bike during the week I'll ask them to recommend a lube / grease and check out what they have in the shop.

Keeping it indoors might be an option but because of space constraints, its bulkiness means the bike would have to be constantly disassembled [albeit only partially] every time. Room could probably also be made in the main shed though.

Thinkbike have a good workshop I think you can take it as a given that there'll be adequate grease on the parts that need it.

A bottle of Fenwicks wet lube will do you for the coming wet-dark times. It's equally important to keep the bike clean, whereas in the not too distant past a novitiate Rollingscone used to wreck his drive trains with a combination of too little cleaning and too much lube.

Wiping the bike down with a rag and a baby wipe in the evening when you get home will save you a ton of grief, just drip lube onto the inside of the chain links every couple of days and wipe off the excess.

If the drive train is currently manky degreaser will be your friend.