They don't even pay road tax Joe. **Off topic thread**

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Wow

Harrybelafonte

gadetra wrote: »

Wow

I'll show you my before photo some day, if I haven't already.

awec

Basically lost a stone a month. That's some going.

eeeee

Harrybelafonte wrote: »

I'll show you my before photo some day, if I haven't already.

There's a pre Harry? No way!
Would it spoil the vision of your current national champion ways? :P

Harrybelafonte

gadetra wrote: »

There's a pre Harry? No way!
Would it spoil the vision of your current national champion ways? :P

Yes

Lusk_Doyle

gadetra wrote: »

There's a pre Harry? No way!
Would it spoil the vision of your current national champion ways? :P

I met him once years ago. He probably doesn't remember. He was grand back then!

Harrybelafonte

I remember. The before was a little before that.

Beasty

The "before" Beasty was even less of a pretty sight than the "after". Lost 35kg or so, then put 10 of it back on last year. Managed to "eat into" 5 of those over the past month or so, and am aiming at another 7kg over the next 2 months. This time next year the plan is to be less than the weight I was 40 years ago....

AstraMonti

Harrybelafonte

Most of those guys were never going to make it around that corner?!?

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Wow that's some transformation Harry, fair play to you.

I think you should post an after pic of you in your national champion skin suit for balance

RainyDay

But do hoverboards pay their road tax, that's what I want to know?

http://www.theverge.com/tldr/2015/6/24/8837863/hoverboard-lexus-maglev-video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zTCgMPZRuo

Alek

Pre-Alek was nearly 17 stone, now under 13... tried to upload a photo but it got stuck, broadband was not broad enough.

rollingscone

Alek wrote: »

Pre-Alek was nearly 17 stone, now under 13... tried to upload a photo but it got stuck, broadband was not broad enough.

I'm obviously doing it wrong

Lusk_Doyle

Harrybelafonte wrote: »

I remember. The before was a little before that.

When did you change race?

smacl

rollingscone wrote: »

I'm obviously doing it wrong

Phew, thought it was just me. At 85kg I'm up about 10kg since my days of competitive martial arts about 10 years ago, and about 20kg between early 20s and late 40s. The beer and kebabs diet has certain drawbacks....

Zyzz

Warning - broken arm, don't watch if squeamish.

OleRodrigo

^ Less of that......and more of this:



http://www.countryliving.com/life/travel/a35743/micro-bicycle-camper/

Harrybelafonte

Lusk_Doyle wrote: »

When did you change race?

Didn't get out much in those days. I still went up a few kilos after that, peaking at 122kg

Lusk_Doyle

Harrybelafonte wrote: »

Didn't get out much in those days. I still went up a few kilos after that, peaking at 122kg

Wow! Some transformation. Nice work.

RainyDay

Harrybelafonte wrote: »

Didn't get out much in those days. I still went up a few kilos after that, peaking at 122kg

And down to?

Harrybelafonte

RainyDay wrote: »

And down to?

82kg by spring but have been struggling with it over last few months since.

Cantona's Collars

RainyDay

Harrybelafonte wrote: »

82kg by spring but have been struggling with it over last few months since.

Huge achievement - about 1/3rd of your original weight - fair play. I'm struggling to get back down to 100kgs, was 110kgs, weight came off without me actually noticing it, but slipped back up to 105, now 104.

Heard Stephen Nolan of UTV talking about how he went from 25 stone down to 18 stone, and then put back on every pound :-(

OldBean

I went from about an XXXL two years ago to an L (and I'm 6'4). Verging on XL at the moment because I've not had time to eat well and get on the bike, but still a huge change in my fitness, motivation and drive.

Probably why I never mind rewarding myself with shiny bike parts.

lennymc

lots of ex fatties on here. Fair play to yee all. I was about 18 stone myself a few years ago. About 13.5 now. My main motivation for losing weight back then was the Raid Pyrenean organised on here.

PaddyFagan

lennymc wrote: »

lots of ex fatties on here. Fair play to yee all. I was about 18 stone myself a few years ago. About 13.5 now. My main motivation for losing weight back then was the Raid Pyrenean organised on here.

Makes me feel like a light weight was 100Kg+ now hovering around 81Kg.

Paddy

Harrybelafonte

I honestly think that being overweight, like badly overweight, is comparable to alcoholism. People who join AA will always refer to themselves as alcoholics even if they haven't touched a drink in years. Being fat is the same. You know deep inside you there's every chance that you could get back up to whatever weight unless you remember to control your poor attitude to food etc. Once a fatty. Always a fatty.

OldBean

Absolutely agree. As much a state of mind as a physical state. And I have a belly again, so can completely atest to it.

tomasrojo

cdaly_ wrote: »

Are they thinking of the screw thread at the back of the pen as the grip point for the track pump? That would require the body.

This did turn out to be a very good suggestion for a cheap way to make a tapered nozzle for a track pump.









(It did take about an hour to pump it up though.)

furiousox

tomasrojo

As part of my ongoing fascination with Australia's hate-hate relationship with cycling, I enjoyed this:

http://www.sydneycyclist.com/profiles/blogs/prevent-bicycle-accidents-on-the-road-and-street?xg_source=activity

Ah, the simple pleasures of riding a bike ... always accompanied, during daylight, along routes I'm very familiar with and with a bottle of water, always stopping to let cars go by.

Alek

Harrybelafonte wrote: »

I honestly think that being overweight, like badly overweight, is comparable to alcoholism. People who join AA will always refer to themselves as alcoholics even if they haven't touched a drink in years. Being fat is the same. You know deep inside you there's every chance that you could get back up to whatever weight unless you remember to control your poor attitude to food etc. Once a fatty. Always a fatty.

Very well said.

ford2600

Alek wrote: »

Very well said.

This lecture explores some of the reasons why keeping weight off long term can be really difficult

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMdSHNnRbEs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp2p4TdLn_8&feature=youtu.be

Alek

Thanks Ford, but I wish I had 90 minutes to spare at the moment - Tl;dw

Either way I have tendency for overeating and gaining weight, but the balance is more or less achieved for the last 2 -3 years by being active on daily basis (at least 1h of moderate/intense cycling).

Recently I found myself overcompensating effort with food - old mind playing its tricks - and my weight slowly crept up from 82 to 85 this spring... Red light was triggered, started double mileage + 2000kcal base* intake diet and lost 3kgs in 14 days while improving my climbing noticeably!

* I consume this plus whatever I burn during cycling. 3500kcal on some days...

Harrybelafonte

Analysing why one over eats is essential I think. Stress, depression etc. it makes it a little easier to control. My biggest discovery in the last few years though is that cycling kinda sucks for losing weight. Partially because of the hours on the bike needed to burn X amount of calories, while at the same time having to rely on carbs for fuel. My weight loss in the winter was primarily due to running (5km runs mostly) and weightlifting while eating a protein heavy and carb light diet. Once I'm back on the bike full-time the "how much is enough" carb battle starts again.

Alek

My weight loss in the winter was primarily due to running (5km runs mostly)

In my case 30min of running (6km) equals to 1h hour on the bike, calorie-wise. But running takes more preparation (stretching pre and post, can't do without it) while I can just hop on the bike anytime, and primarily: running sucks big time for me, I find almost no fun in it.

I can also cycle for hours (if I have time) with no bad effects, while running for over an hour has been scientifically proven to be impossible for me

Partially because of the hours on the bike needed to burn X amount of calories, while at the same time having to rely on carbs for fuel.

Ford goes on carbs and fat, and cycles more than well! I wouldn't go this route though, too much discipline and initial sacrifice needed.

ford2600

Alek wrote: »

Ford goes on carbs and fat, and cycles more than well! I wouldn't go this route though, too much discipline and initial sacrifice needed.

That's the thing though for people like me, for whatever ever reason(s), I would find it hard to gain weight. For people close to me it's the opposite.

If you look at overfeeding studies the amount of weight gain varies enormously between subjects for the same amount of overfeeding.

The discussion is primarily around calories and aerobic training; food quality, weight training, sleep quality, stress, depression, emotional factors etc barely get a look in.

Harrybelafonte

When I was in my teens I competed in 1500ms and orienteering, my parents' main concerns were how skinny I was and how little I weighed and ate (bar lots of sugar), I hit my 20s and put on a little but it really piled on around 30 as I had to spend hours driving. I later did a bit of work with UCD and they found I had FTO and MTHFR gene mutations which, for one, meant I quickly put on weight during periods of in activity.

Some would see that as an excuse for putting on weight, it's not, it simply allowed me to find a reason to keep moving.

BTW, don't stretch before running, walk for five minute then have at.

Alek

BTW, don't stretch before running, walk for five minute then have at.

Tried that initially, knees and hips were in bits after 2 sessions. Once I started stretching, no issues. Then tried once without and the knee problem returned.

I later did a bit of work with UCD and they found I had FTO and MTHFR gene mutations which, for one, meant I quickly put on weight during periods of in activity.

Can you say a bit more about this?

The discussion is primarily around calories and aerobic training; food quality, weight training, sleep quality, stress, depression, emotional factors etc barely get a look in.

I agree that all the psychological factors play huge role in gaining / losing weight as a general process, but at the end of the day its the balance between calories absorbed* and burned that counts.

*absorbed is not consumed, people vary in food utilisation due to numerous factors: the way they eat, how effective is their gastic system vs certain types of food etc.

ford2600

Alek wrote: »

I agree that all the psychological factors play huge role in gaining / losing weight as a general process, but at the end of the day its the balance between calories absorbed* and burned that counts.

*absorbed is not consumed, people vary in food utilisation due to numerous factors: the way they eat, how effective is their gastic system vs certain types of food etc.

Since you can't watch viedo you might manage a sneaky read of this in work.:) If you search under obesity, leptin he has loads of other interesting posts. He's not a HFLC lunatic before you ask! Came to prominence for a debunking of Gary Taubes theory that carbs were almost entirely to blame for western obesity.

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.ie/2009/12/body-fat-setpoint.html

He has some brilliant posts, he asks more questions than gives answers.

Here are two posts on genetics

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.ie/search?q=fto

rollingscone

Alek wrote: »

Tried that initially, knees and hips were in bits after 2 sessions. Once I started stretching, no issues. Then tried once without and the knee problem returned.



Can you say a bit more about this?



I agree that all the psychological factors play huge role in gaining / losing weight as a general process, but at the end of the day its the balance between calories absorbed* and burned that counts.

*absorbed is not consumed, people vary in food utilisation due to numerous factors: the way they eat, how effective is their gastic system vs certain types of food etc.

Come and talk to your Uncle Scone about running.

ThisRegard

That gif of the guy going over the handlebars, what a pathetic attempt at lifting the front wheel.

Weepsie

A boardsie with P. Kimmage doing Genoa to Rome?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIGjhByUMAEWlUa.jpg:large

ThisRegard

Alek wrote: »

In my case 30min of running (6km) equals to 1h hour on the bike, calorie-wise. But running takes more preparation (stretching pre and post, can't do without it) while I can just hop on the bike anytime,

Really ? I find the exact opposite. Takes ages to get organised for the bike, and as said, you need at least an hour to get an value for it. Running you just grab your gear and out the door you go and even 15/20 minutes can be of value.

Harrybelafonte wrote: »

When I was in my teens I competed in 1500ms and orienteering, my parents' main concerns were how skinny I was and how little I weighed and ate (bar lots of sugar),

Pretty much the same as myself, although with less bars of sugar. Now during heavy training I get the same from my wife, and especially her mother.

tomasrojo

Alek wrote: »

I agree that all the psychological factors play huge role in gaining / losing weight as a general process, but at the end of the day its the balance between calories absorbed and burned that counts.

I know nothing about this, but I did hear a The Life Scientific podcast a while back, and the scientist interviewed, who has specialised in studying obesity, said that they did a very thorough study and nobody who put on a lot of weight did so without consuming a lot of calories. She was trying to find evidence for "slow metabolism", and didn't find it.

I might be misremembering what she said, but it's all here:
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/redir/version/2.0/mediaset/audio-nondrm-download/proto/http/vpid/p02s3l5j.mp3

The study apparatus was quite restrictive for the participants, IIRC. Think they were in a sealed environment and outputs of all kinds were monitored.

Lumen

ThisRegard wrote: »

Takes ages to get organised for the bike

I've much decreased the faffing by carrying a set of tools, tubes etc in the second bidon and not using a Garmin. That way I just need to put on the costume, stick keys/wallet/phone in the back pockets and go.

tomasrojo

ThisRegard wrote: »

Really ? I find the exact opposite. Takes ages to get organised for the bike, and as said, you need at least an hour to get an value for it. Running you just grab your gear and out the door you go and even 15/20 minutes can be of value.

All my cycling is in relatively small cycles of mostly forty minutes or less. There's just an awful lot of them, and I think that's quite healthy. Don't know whether that helps one lose weight, but from personal observation, about half the people I know who acquire a car put on a noticeable amount of weight within six months. I do wonder whether near-constant non-heroic amounts of activity is important for the equilibrium of your body.

tomasrojo

And you can have your favourite tipple while you're out being active:


http://www.velopresso.cc/about/

Alek

Come and talk to your Uncle Scone about running.

But I don't want to be convinced!

Really ?

Really Bike is always ready, all it takes is to switch clothes, fill the bidon and off I go.