They don't even pay road tax Joe. **Off topic thread**

Lusk_Doyle

Alek wrote: »

But I don't want to be convinced!



Really Bike is always ready, all it takes is to switch clothes, fill the bidon and off I go.

Running rocks Alek!

neris

I lost 2.5 stone between February and the end of April. Was 16.5. Did alot on the bike over that period but over May & June done ive only done 12 rides totaling 160km. I cant already feel the weights coming back on. Drinking, laziness & poor diet has brought me back to square 1 now fitness wise and my build up of KMs at the start of the year have been wasted

Alek

Running rocks Alek!

I'll be bikeless for the next two weeks, I'll tell you what I think about daily running after that. Don't expect too many nice words :P

Alek

you might manage a sneaky read of this in work.

One of your links is not blocked here Will read!

Darkglasses

If you are thinking of taking up running, I highly recommend doing parkruns. 5km races on every Saturday morning in parks all over Ireland, free to join, very friendly and have a wide mix of abilities to compete against.

Alek

Thanks, but I run only when I'm forced to

Alanstrainor

Gotta love chainreaction postage times. I seem to always get their free post stuff the second morning after ordering. It's great! Had the bolt which holds the brake cable on my rear mini-v seize which in turn led me to rounding out the hex head on it trying to remove. Had a replacement Tektro mini-v on the bike two days later after about 15 minutes of work. Nice one!

PaddyFagan

neris wrote: »

I lost 2.5 stone between February and the end of April. Was 16.5. Did alot on the bike over that period but over May & June done ive only done 12 rides totaling 160km. I cant already feel the weights coming back on. Drinking, laziness & poor diet has brought me back to square 1 now fitness wise and my build up of KMs at the start of the year have been wasted

Don't give up - I've re-gained some lost weight countless times over the last 5+ years - always managed to get stuck back in...

Set yourself some short team goals (get out twice on the bike in the next week and do XX km or whatever) and just keep chipping away.

Paddy

ford2600

tomasrojo wrote: »

I know nothing about this, but I did hear a The Life Scientific podcast a while back, and the scientist interviewed, who has specialised in studying obesity, said that they did a very thorough study and nobody who put on a lot of weight did so without consuming a lot of calories. She was trying to find evidence for "slow metabolism", and didn't find it.

I might be misremembering what she said, but it's all here:
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/redir/version/2.0/mediaset/audio-nondrm-download/proto/http/vpid/p02s3l5j.mp3

The study apparatus was quite restrictive for the participants, IIRC. Think they were in a sealed environment and outputs of all kinds were monitored.

I don't think there is anyone seriously suggestions that you don't need to eat too much to gain weight.

From listening to that podcast before that lady seems to be asking similar question as Gueyenet etc as to the "why" people overeat and the biology/food environment etc that drives that behaviour.

One of the main reasons exercise helps with weight control maybe in how it helps in resetting how leptin/ghrelin/hypothalmus controls our levels of body fat rather than how many calories you burn and even more so for weight training. Weight training may also help by upping the bodies need for protein which is on a per calorie basis the most satiating of macros

tomasrojo

ford2600 wrote: »

I don't think there is anyone seriously suggestions that you don't need to eat too much to gain weight.

I don't think anyone reputable in Science suggests it, but I have heard a "slow metabolism" being blamed for weight gain by members of the public quite often. I should listen to the podcast again, but I think she does specifically address the idea of people eating much the same food having markedly different outcomes.

(If she doesn't, sorry for wasting everyone's time!)

ford2600 wrote: »

One of the main reasons exercise helps with weight control maybe in how it helps in resetting how leptin/ghrelin/hypothalmus controls our levels of body fat rather than how many calories you burn and even more so for weight training. Weight training may also help by upping the bodies need for protein which is on a per calorie basis the most satiating of macros

Interesting!

tomasrojo

Would inactivity, speaking very simplistically, be something that tells the body that it's winter time and time to build up fat reserves? (Obviously, physiological response to day length and light levels would be more important.)

magicbastarder

another issue linked with rising levels of body weight is central heating; in the early 70s, average room temperature was around 13 degrees. now it's up to about 20, so the thinking goes that you're burning fewer calories to regulate body temperature.

OleRodrigo

Weepsie wrote: »

A boardsie with P. Kimmage doing Genoa to Rome?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIGjhByUMAEWlUa.jpg:large

Looks like Mercian Pro

petethedrummer

tomasrojo wrote: »

Would inactivity, speaking very simplistically, be something that tells the body that it's winter time and time to build up fat reserves? (Obviously, physiological response to day length and light levels would be more important.)

I'd say it depends on your approach to inactivity. Very few people go on slow meandering walks with no headphones or sleep in a cool pitch black room. Most people are distracted by lights, internet & TV in the mornings & evening's. Very few people sleep more than 9 hours even once a week. If we all did NOTHING properly it might help towards postitive health outcomes.

OleRodrigo

petethedrummer wrote: »

. If we all did NOTHING properly it might help towards postitive health outcomes.

Speaking of.....this is a V funny read:

seamus

Harrybelafonte wrote: »

I honestly think that being overweight, like badly overweight, is comparable to alcoholism. People who join AA will always refer to themselves as alcoholics even if they haven't touched a drink in years. Being fat is the same. You know deep inside you there's every chance that you could get back up to whatever weight unless you remember to control your poor attitude to food etc. Once a fatty. Always a fatty.

Could not agree more. I will find myself every now and again indulging my inner fatty and ordering a big dirty greasy starter, mains (with a side of chips, and eating anyone else's leftover chips), and a dessert, then topping it off with some pints. Or having dinner, then sitting down to watch a movie with a full bag of doritos with a dip, and a pack of beers.
I've said it on other threads, but I think overeating is an addiction for the majority of overweight people, and it's the only one that you can't fix by going cold turkey.

The bonus of being a long-time abstainer though is that your stomach shrinks and you just can't pack it away like you used to. So the damage you can do in a single sitting is limited. Be ten years next year since I was 111kg. Lost about 19kg in six months initially, then gradually brought it down (and sometimes back up again) to my current 76/77kg over the following years.

petethedrummer

OleRodrigo wrote: »

Speaking of.....this is a V funny read:

I read that book on holidays in Thailand back in 2006. It was an intrepid travel thing with a guide (not my idea). Every day we were woken up with the words "You wanna go see temple?". Then after lunch "you wanna go see temple?". After about week of this and having finished the book, I stopped going to temples and slept and strolled around at my own leisure. Great holiday from then on.

Harrybelafonte

Mthfr gene mutations affect the body's ability to metabolise certain vitamins but more importantly, colic acid

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-integrationist/201409/genetic-mutation-can-affect-mental-physical-health

I'm not really in the mood to start arguing about whether there's such a thing as a simplistic slow metabolic rate, but I believe a fundamental approach to food ie. Less calories in than out and avoidance of processed foods is the best approach for all.

No matter what your weight get checks done reflgularly. I know skinny guys with high cholesterol and fat people with low cholesterol. Weight and activity are not the he all and end all.

Sure some people look for excuses as to why they're fat, but sometimes an extra insight into mitigating factors which add to your weight gain beyond the fundamentals I mentioned can be nothing but an advantage. Information is power.

Beasty

I've now got a Fitbit that makes a reasonable stab at calories out, maintain a spreadsheet with calories in, and a set of scales that go to the nearest 0.1kg. Been going through this process for about a month and have lost just over 5kg - can now pretty much predict my weight first thing in the morning to within about 0.2kg based on the data input over the previous day or so

Alek

can now pretty much predict my weight first thing in the morning to within about 0.2kg

Do you weight the undigested food too? :P

OleRodrigo

petethedrummer wrote: »

I read that book on holidays in Thailand back in 2006. It was an intrepid travel thing with a guide (not my idea). Every day we were woken up with the words "You wanna go see temple?". Then after lunch "you wanna go see temple?". After about week of this and having finished the book, I stopped going to temples and slept and strolled around at my own leisure. Great holiday from then on.

Classic Exactly the right book for a hammock on a beach in Thailand.

Sadly, back in the real world, unless you have no kids, your own home and a source of passive income..its a bit out of reach. But an entertaining one nonetheless.

Tenzor07

Good to see a bit of justice happening in our courts, should have got 2 years! +

man-who-pushed-boy-off-bicycle-sentenced-to-10-months-in-jail

tomasrojo

Shocking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smREcqxm6D0

What is the French equivalent of the RSA, and why aren't they stamping this out?

neris

PaddyFagan wrote: »

Don't give up - I've re-gained some lost weight countless times over the last 5+ years - always managed to get stuck back in...

Set yourself some short team goals (get out twice on the bike in the next week and do XX km or whatever) and just keep chipping away.

Paddy

at this stage im an expert of loosing it and putting it back on especially over the summer. sailing and boozing go hand in hand and leave little motivation for the bike (unless its on tv)

There an interesting documentary on netflix called Fed Up.

Essentially it points the finger of blame at suger and processed foods for the obesity epidemic. Worth a watch.

Harrybelafonte

ronoc wrote: »

There an interesting documentary on netflix called Fed Up.

Essentially it points the finger of blame at suger and processed foods for the obesity epidemic. Worth a watch.

No it's not. People need to stop using "made for entertainment" documentaries and learn to research issues themselves.

Here's some insights into why Fed Up is full of it: https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/does-the-movie-fed-up-make-sense/

Flawed scaremongering.

magicbastarder

Harrybelafonte wrote: »

No it's not. People need to stop using "made for entertainment" documentaries and learn to research issues themselves.

(genuinely) no offence intended, but your advice is to research the issue ourselves, and then link to an article which may or may not be as biased as the documentary may or may not be.

Alek

They both may be biased and may not be. Its good to see opinions from both sides - and then use your own judgement.

CramCycle

Alek wrote: »

They both may be biased and may not be. Its good to see opinions from both sides - and then use your own judgement.

Didn't finish either, found huge flaws with both. There are many causes of obesity, dependent on economics, education, where you live,and the lost goes on.

In some cases it is only one persons fault, in others it is the fault of a few, in others it is a fault of society and sometimes genetics rolled a dice and said ti hell with it, you are going to be obese

Harrybelafonte

Alek wrote: »

They both may be biased and may not be. Its good to see opinions from both sides - and then use your own judgement.

Exactly my point.

andy69

wasn't sure if this was for the ugly or beauty thread! ha!





http://www.thedronenews.org/#!OFFICIAL-BIKE-FOR-PIPERS-FUNDRAISING-CYCLE-UNVEILED/c1kod/558432e80cf288ee3f0f1b7a

...seems there is a genuine fundraiser cycle though: http://pipers.ie/events/2015/07/reels-on-wheels-2015/

rollingscone

Still 1000km behind Paterscone for the year so far...going to have to start getting up earlier than Alek!

AstraMonti

Exercise or die :P https://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=2212268

ford2600

AstraMonti wrote: »

Exercise or die :P https://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=2212268

No need for that study.

As a not young Australian miner said to me, who liked to lift really heavy weights when not breaking rocks "if you don't wear out you'll rust out"

Weepsie

Gran Fondo Giro D'Italia is being shown on setanta now for anyone who did it

ford2600

CramCycle wrote: »

Didn't finish either, found huge flaws with both. There are many causes of obesity, dependent on economics, education, where you live,and the lost goes on.

In some cases it is only one persons fault, in others it is the fault of a few, in others it is a fault of society and sometimes genetics rolled a dice and said ti hell with it, you are going to be obese

Interesting theory.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3402009/#_jmp0_

TLDR, Carbohydrates or fats aren't the problem it's the high density carbs which define the Western diet

Conclusions here
The increased storage life and convenience of some of our oldest agricultural products may come with a hitherto unrecognized metabolic cost. The foods eaten by hunter-gatherers, non-cereal horticulturalists, and those following a modern Paleolithic or “primal” diet are sharply delineated from modern foods by their lower carbohydrate densities. Consumption of exclusively low-density carbohydrates is suggested to produce a less inflammatory GI microbiota, and may explain the apparent absence of overweight and metabolic disease in two of these groups, and the promising early data from the third. This hypothesis may also explain (1) why obesity incidence scales with refined food intake, but has such confusing correlatory patterns with macronutrients; (2) why calorie-controlled diets of Westernized foods require a perpetual fight with homeostatic correction mechanisms; (3) the link between periodontal disease and systemic atherosclerotic disease and obesity; (4) why the benefits of a diet of fruit and vegetables have not been replicated by supplements of the constituent antioxidants, vitamins, minerals, and fiber alongside a Western diet; (5) why low-carbohydrate diets produce ad libitum weight loss, but low-fat diets do not; and (6) the relative resistance of European people to obesity and diabetes from Westernized diets

OldBean

Pretty great ad... http://www.adverts.ie/road-bikes/trek-sl1000-racing-bike/8307943

CramCycle

Anyone know where to get a spring clip for a wipperman track chain in Dublin?

Weepsie

OldBean wrote: »

Pretty great ad... http://www.adverts.ie/road-bikes/trek-sl1000-racing-bike/8307943

I have that same bike with full 105.

magicbastarder

you'd think his brother would have cleaned it every so often.

buffalo

Came down to the apartment car park this morning to find my bike missing. Found it in the bike shed with a note attached saying that it has to be claimed by "Friday June 14th". Given that the 14th isn't a Friday this year, and the note went on - at earliest - last Thursday 26th, I have entered full angry letter-writing mode. I'm down a rather nice U-lock for which I want to be reimbursed.

buffalo

buffalo wrote: »

Came down to the apartment car park this morning to find my bike missing. Found it in the bike shed with a note attached saying that it has to be claimed by "Friday June 14th". Given that the 14th isn't a Friday this year, and the note went on - at earliest - last Thursday 26th, I have entered full angry letter-writing mode. I'm down a rather nice U-lock for which I want to be reimbursed.

A tip of the hat to the property company who immediately apologised and offered to reimburse me for a new lock.

Qualitymark

Cycle paths save Britain £1 million per day http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/active/recreational-cycling/11706619/Cycling-routes-save-Britains-economy-1m-a-day.html

eeeee

CramCycle wrote: »

Anyone know where to get a spring clip for a wipperman track chain in Dublin?

On Track maybe? There up near Christchurch? Or Cycleways? There are a good few Sundrivers working in there, I imagine they're on top of the track stuff?

manafana

Qualitymark wrote: »

Cycle paths save Britain £1 million per day http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/active/recreational-cycling/11706619/Cycling-routes-save-Britains-economy-1m-a-day.html

been hell of alot of evidence that cycle paths etc pay for themselves through traffic decongestion, health (mental and physical), and general freedom.

The path along canal is a great success and even then it could improve.

Anyone used the strava route creator recently?

It seems to be picking really stupid paths between way-points.

JamJamJamJam

ronoc wrote: »

Anyone used the strava route creator recently?

It seems to be picking really stupid paths between way-points.

Check that the 'Use popularity' option is off, but even then, I have noticed that. I couldn't convince it to let me down one or two small country roads!

buffalo

edit: bah, not actually a gif!

https://i.imgur.com/uvTeVZi.gifv

el tel

There aren't enough threads on here about cycling in Monaghan :pac:

furiousox

el tel wrote: »

There isn't enough threads on here about cycling in Monaghan so there isn't.

FYP. :pac: