They don't even pay road tax Joe. **Off topic thread**

nomdeboardie

Don't get me started again

Qualitymark

gadetra wrote: »

Ah I see, sorry I thought you meant traditional dray.

So it's a rigid lorry then? Or an arctic? They're just another motorized vehicle I would have thought?

ETA The one's I have seen are small ridged body type lorries, with the kegs stacked in the back in an open body. Is it that kind of thing?

This was a big bruiser. I kind of thought big trucks had been banned from the city.

eeeee

Qualitymark wrote: »

This was a big bruiser. I kind of thought big trucks had been banned from the city.

They're allowed in within certain times. HGV's are fine, as long as you stay out of the blind spot they're the same as any other vehicle, except they're bigger, slower and noisier!

rollingscone

gadetra wrote: »

They're allowed in within certain times. HGV's are fine, as long as you stay out of the blind spot they're the same as any other vehicle, except they're bigger, slower and noisier!

And the drivers are usually more cautious

Qualitymark

gadetra wrote: »

They're allowed in within certain times. HGV's are fine, as long as you stay out of the blind spot they're the same as any other vehicle, except they're bigger, slower and noisier!

Is 2.15pm one of those times? I would have had to do some running to get out of the way of this as it thundered through Rathmines!

rollingscone

gadetra wrote: »

They're allowed in within certain times. HGV's are fine, as long as you stay out of the blind spot they're the same as any other vehicle, except they're bigger, slower and noisier!

And the drivers are usually more cautious

Kav0777

DirkVoodoo wrote: »

I had one cycle against me on the Clontarf road. I was heading back towards town and she came against me. I stopped and unclipped, she looked at me like I was in the wrong and said that the "path" was out of order on the other side of the road.

It was, due to road works, but she still could have cycle on the road in the right direction rather than creating a ridiculously more hazardous journey for her and everyone else.

It was the "move over because I have to go this way" attitude that really bothered me.

I had that happen to me there too, only without the road works.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=86919463&postcount=57

ROK ON

AstraMonti wrote: »

Off to holidays tomorrow, yei! And I will be going there as well:

Bring back some of your mothers rose water jam.:D

AstraMonti

Yes sir!

lennymc

And olives

caviardreams

Hi guys

Apologies for the stupid question

Will be taking my first foray into the city centre for my work commute on the bike to stephens green shopping centre and am a little puzzled by stephens green and which sides are one-way etc. I checked google maps but am not sure with the Luas changes etc. I will be coming up the N11 from Donnybrook, up Lesson Street and then go straight on along the side of SG (SG south I think?). Then can I turn right at the bottom of harcourt street and go along SG West as far as the bike racks at the Luas just before the shopping centre?

I am totally at a loss as to how to do the return journey as I don't think I can go up SG North (i.e. along the top of Dawson Street and Kildare Street) and then SG East (along by Loreto) to turn up Leeson Street?

Thanks guys!

seamus

Short answer: No.

There's no right turn from SG south onto SG west. Easy enough there however to dismount, walk the bike across the road/Luas tracks and then continue on SG west.

The layout of North & West has changed somewhat since the last time I cycled there, so I can't give a proper recommendation. But I would say the easiest things is to just walk the bike back to SG south and cycle eastwards. Dismount when you hit the next junction, walk across onto Leeson Street and then continue on down the bus lane.

CramCycle

On the way in, take a right at the end of Leeson st and then left straight over to stephens green.

On the way back either turn down Dawson st, turn right onto Molesworth st, right on kildare st, and left onto the green, you can either follow the bus lane back around the way you came in or you can go straight along Baggot st and take any of the right hand turns to get you back onto leeson st/N11.

You could also just walk over to the top of kildare st.

Darkglasses

Which tyre is better, the Vittoria Zaffiro Pro or the Rubino (not pro)?

caviardreams

Thanks Seamus and cram - *really* helpful

Qualitymark

CramCycle wrote: »

On the way in, take a right at the end of Leeson st and then left straight over to stephens green.

Eh? If you take a right at the end of Leeson Street you're on Stephen's Green already, no?

OldBean

I think he means main entrance, shopping centre, Luas stop Stephans Green.

CramCycle

Qualitymark wrote: »

Eh? If you take a right at the end of Leeson Street you're on Stephen's Green already, no?

As OldBean said, I meant the shopping centre, right onto stephens green, left to stay on it and your at the shopping centre entrance but it's occurred to me that I haven't been there in a few weeks so maybe there are road works.

Either way, you can cycle nearly the whole way round the park, you may just have to dismount and walk a small distance depending which way you go around.

rollingscone

Darkglasses wrote: »

Which tyre is better, the Vittoria Zaffiro Pro or the Rubino (not pro)?

I prefer the Rubino but I think Zaffiro might be the level above.

Find Zaffiros overly soft and prone to picking up glass etc.

DirkVoodoo

rollingscone wrote: »

I prefer the Rubino but I think Zaffiro might be the level above.

Find Zaffiros overly soft and prone to picking up glass etc.

I thought it was the other way around?

Zaffiro was the lower end, then rubino, then corsa?

Darkglasses

DirkVoodoo wrote: »

I thought it was the other way around?

Zaffiro was the lower end, then rubino, then corsa?

I think you're right, but when the Zaffiro is the pro edition and the Rubino isn't, I'm not sure. Might be just preference, because they are roughly the same price. I used to have Zaffiro pros and was very happy with them. Not many punctures around here.

eeeee

DirkVoodoo wrote: »

I thought it was the other way around?

Zaffiro was the lower end, then rubino, then corsa?

Think It's this way round. Have Rubino pros on the track bike and Rubino pro tech (wet weather ones apparently) on the road bike. I approve. The pro tech's are marked more than the normal ones but they go on more surfaces than track bike (which does n11-canal-track 4 days a week. Still fine) Haven't used zaffiro's so can't compare. Will use Rubino's from now on though, I find them confidence giving and quick.

DirkVoodoo

Darkglasses wrote: »

I think you're right, but when the Zaffiro is the pro edition and the Rubino isn't, I'm not sure. Might be just preference, because they are roughly the same price. I used to have Zaffiro pros and was very happy with them. Not many punctures around here.

If it helps, I've run Rubino Pros before, got two for 15 euro each I think and they were excellent for the price: good rolling resistance, grippy in the wet and I never had a puncture on them. I got decent mileage out of them too.

Can't comment on the Zaffiro pros. I think they just have a higher TPI count than the non-pro? Compare TPI between Zaffiro pro and Rubino (from Vittoria website):

Zaffiro Pro: 60 TPI
Rubino: 60 TPI

I'd go with the Rubinos unless the price was substantially different.

bp_me

DirkVoodoo wrote: »

If it helps, I've run Rubino Pros before, got two for 15 euro each I think and they were excellent for the price: good rolling resistance, grippy in the wet and I never had a puncture on them. I got decent mileage out of them too.

Rubino pros are £9.99 from Amazon. Cheapest source I can find for them. I was pleased enough with them that I recently put a second set on the bike.

Lots of cuts and nicks on the first set but thankfully no punctures!

Wishbone Ash

Qualitymark wrote: »

...I kind of thought big trucks had been banned from the city.

gadetra wrote: »

They're allowed in within certain times...

Qualitymark wrote: »

Is 2.15pm one of those times?...

The ban relates to vehicles with 5 axles or more - it is not a truck or HGV ban as such.

The ban does not apply to any vehicles regardless of size which are required to deliver/pick up within the ban area and vehicles which have 5 axles or more but are unsuitable for the DPT obviously have an exemption.

Articulated trucks with 4 axles (rigid or articulated) are not subject to the ban at any time.

Brewery dray articulated trucks usually have 3 axles (2 on the tractor, 1 on the trailer) so would not come under the 5 axle ban anyway.

Qualitymark

Thanks, Wishbone. Truck was big and scary and fast and heavily loaded, and I haven't seen one like it in Rathmines in a long time. Sad to hear that it's legal.

Mercian Pro

A discussion on the merits of the 80's versus the 70's on the Images of Beauty thread reminded me that the first time I heard the Stones' Paint it Black was on a Evening Hearld 50 mile cycle sometime in the 60's. (I know, the brain works in mysterious ways when you get to my age).
Is anyone else hereabouts old enough to remember these cycles? They ran for three or four years and Carling were one of the other sponsors. There seemed to be quite a few hundred cyclists involved and the routes normally included a few good climbs in the Dublin mountains.

RobFowl

Mercian Pro wrote: »

A discussion on the merits of the 80's versus the 70's on the Images of Beauty thread reminded me that the first time I heard the Stones' Paint it Black was on a Evening Hearld 50 mile cycle sometime in the 60's. (I know, the brain works in mysterious ways when you get to my age).
Is anyone else hereabouts old enough to remember these cycles? They ran for three or four years and Carling were one of the other sponsors. There seemed to be quite a few hundred cyclists involved and the routes normally included a few good climbs in the Dublin mountains.

Was only born in the 70's so no help :cool:

Wishbone Ash

Mercian Pro wrote: »

.... the first time I heard the Stones' Paint it Black ...

That'll be going around in my head all night now! :eek:

hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm,
hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm,
hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm,

tigerboon

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm,
hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm,
hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm,

That's it alright

ednwireland

Just met Irish Paralympian cyclist Katie Dunleavy this evening. Growing collection of medals there.

Eamonnator

What Irish Cycling Club has team kit, that is very similar to The FDJ design?
Please.

Wishbone Ash

Eamonnator wrote: »

What Irish Cycling Club has team kit, that is very similar to The FDJ design?
Please.

Galway Bay CC?

Hmmzis

OMILs - Chris Boardman is a witty genius! Had never heard that one before, just got to know it from an article on Slashdot about Londons' cycling infrastructure plans and battles.

Eamonnator

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Galway Bay CC?

No, thats not it. I met a group of them during the week, in Duleek, Co. Meath.
The jerseys seemed to be a direct copy of the FDJ design.

Lusk_Doyle

Eamonnator wrote: »

No, thats not it. I met a group of them during the week, in Duleek, Co. Meath.
The jerseys seemed to be a direct copy of the FDJ design.

St Francis St Des Jeus?

RobFowl

Eamonnator wrote: »

What Irish Cycling Club has team kit, that is very similar to The FDJ design?
Please.

It's LesJeunes

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Mercian Pro wrote: »

A discussion on the merits of the 80's versus the 70's on the Images of Beauty thread reminded me that the first time I heard the Stones' Paint it Black was on a Evening Hearld 50 mile cycle sometime in the 60's. (I know, the brain works in mysterious ways when you get to my age).
Is anyone else hereabouts old enough to remember these cycles? They ran for three or four years and Carling were one of the other sponsors. There seemed to be quite a few hundred cyclists involved and the routes normally included a few good climbs in the Dublin mountains.

One of the lads in work whose father worked for The Herald was only talking about them the other day.. I think he was saying the first time he rode a bike was on one of the cycles to Newbridge (or Naas) and bad to Dublin lol.

I can ask him if he's any more memories of it, or even photos if you wish.

Eamonnator

RobFowl wrote: »

It's LesJeunes

That's the one, thanks.

detones

Would Marley park be a good/safe spot to park if going for a spin in Wicklow up to Sally Gap? Was planning on doing this early tomorrow. Coming from North co. Dublin.

RobFowl

detones wrote: »

Would Marley park be a good/safe spot to park if going for a spin in Wicklow up to Sally Gap? Was planning on doing this early tomorrow. Coming from North co. Dublin.

Come out to Kentstown with us instead Feckin Southsiders are renowned car thieves ....

detones

RobFowl wrote: »

Come out to Kentstown with us instead Feckin Southsiders are renowned car thieves ....

would love to but I'm a fair bit off you guys pace at the moment. Just fancy a change of scenery and never did the gap before.

Mercian Pro

Aiden Defeated Revolver wrote: »

One of the lads in work whose father worked for The Herald was only talking about them the other day.. I think he was saying the first time he rode a bike was on one of the cycles to Newbridge (or Naas) and bad to Dublin lol.

I can ask him if he's any more memories of it, or even photos if you wish.

Would appreciate that. I have tried googling it and came up with nothing but I suppose there wasn't much digital info around then! I can remember one year cycling down the Embankment and also triangular metal badges you got at the end in Abbey Street outside the Herald offices.
Kinda odd that they were so popular but then disappeared many decades before sportives appeared.

Wishbone Ash

detones wrote: »

... and never did the gap before.

WTF? :eek:

You could use the car park at Whitehall Church - it's only a few km's across Dublin to Stocking Lane and it will save you from driving across.

...or just man up and cycle from Balrothery!

Wishbone Ash

Mercian Pro wrote: »

Would appreciate that. I have tried googling it and came up with nothing but I suppose there wasn't much digital info around then! I can remember one year cycling down the Embankment and also triangular metal badges you got at the end in Abbey Street outside the Herald offices.
Kinda odd that they were so popular but then disappeared many decades before sportives appeared.

Mercian Pro - has this book any connection with what you're after?

http://source.southdublinlibraries.ie/bitstream/10599/11261/5/SDCC%20JB%20Malone%20eBook.pdf

RainyDay

detones wrote: »

Would Marley park be a good/safe spot to park if going for a spin in Wicklow up to Sally Gap? Was planning on doing this early tomorrow. Coming from North co. Dublin.

Yeah, often used by walkers.

Qualitymark

Attack on the car-free city centre plan in the Indo: http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/ideology-and-theory-threaten-to-stop-traffic-in-dublin-city-centre-31454212.html

According to some major retailers in the city centre, the problems with the study and the consultation process are wide-ranging. "To put it quite simply, under the proposed plans we will not be able to accept deliveries; we will not be able to get goods into our store", (Arnott's CEO Ray) Hernan says… "And it's debatable whether customers will be able to get goods out of the store especially if they can't bring them to their cars."

What, no deliveries at all? Surely some mistake? And what are people buying in Arnott's that they can't carry? Any time I've been in there in recent years I've bought clothes or small electrical goods. If I bought a fridge or something, I'd expect Arnott's to deliver it from their out-of-town warehouse.

According to the article, the plan is still open for public sight and comment in libraries and on the city council website.

My own feeling is that the greatest danger to the city centre's commerce is the plan for a giant mall full of chain stores behind O'Connell Street, extending beyond Moore Street and up to the old Carlton; this will draw in shoppers who will not then visit the traditional city centre shops at all. The money will simply flow into these chainstores, and seamlessly out of the country.

Mercian Pro

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Mercian Pro - has this book any connection with what you're after?

Thanks WA. I do remember the JB Malone articles in the Hearld but they were nearly all walking rather than cycling routes. The one connection I think to what I was on about is a reference to an Evening Hearld 20 mile sponsored walk in 1963. This was probably a forerunner (!) of the sponsored cycles.

Jawgap

magicbastarder

Qualitymark wrote: »

If I bought a fridge or something, I'd expect Arnott's to deliver it from their out-of-town warehouse.

exactly. you're hardly going to carry a washing machine from henry street to the irish life car park.
fwiw, their warehouse is just off the old airport road and they sometimes have some good sales there.