Business Information Systems Cit vs UCC

p sherman

Hi, i was at the UCC open day yesteday and was at the BIS talk and was very impressed. However, how would the course in UCC compare to the one in CIT, is anyone doing these courses ?:pac:

SkullRose

p sherman wrote: »

Hi, i was at the UCC open day yesteday and was at the BIS talk and was very impressed. However, how would the course in UCC compare to the one in CIT, is anyone doing these courses ?:pac:

Hey, I'm in third year BIS and I would recommend the course in UCC. Graduates from this course are more recognised than those from CIT. I've heard stories about some companies not choosing to take CIT BIS students just because the course doesn't have the same reputation as the one in UCC. The points may be more but it's well worth it when it comes to graduation. The placement opportunities are also way better in my opinion and you've the chance the go to the U.S. for six months

p sherman

SkullRose wrote: »

Hey, I'm in third year BIS and I would recommend the course in UCC. Graduates from this course are more recognised than those from CIT. I've heard stories about some companies not choosing to take CIT BIS students just because the course doesn't have the same reputation as the one in UCC. The points may be more but it's well worth it when it comes to graduation. The placement opportunities are also way better in my opinion and you've the chance the go to the U.S. for six months

and what exactly does a business analyst do?

SkullRose

p sherman wrote: »

and what exactly does a business analyst do?

A Business Analyst (BA) is someone who analyzes the existing or ideal organization and design of systems, including businesses, departments, and organizations. BAs also assess business models and their integration with technology.

BIS graduates tend to go into I.T. consulting because of the skills that we've gained we're specialised in this area and tend to go into that field. Then again it depends what your interests are? Developers, programmers, analysts we're not exactly limited unlike some courses.

rorrissey

SkullRose wrote: »

Hey, I'm in third year BIS and I would recommend the course in UCC. Graduates from this course are more recognised than those from CIT. I've heard stories about some companies not choosing to take CIT BIS students just because the course doesn't have the same reputation as the one in UCC. The points may be more but it's well worth it when it comes to graduation. The placement opportunities are also way better in my opinion and you've the chance the go to the U.S. for six months

Hey, I'm interested in this course as well, but I was talking to my guidance counsellor today and she suggested that because maths is not my strong point, I may find the programming side of this course difficult. Just wondering if it is strongly maths based?

SkullRose

rorrissey wrote: »

Hey, I'm interested in this course as well, but I was talking to my guidance counsellor today and she suggested that because maths is not my strong point, I may find the programming side of this course difficult. Just wondering if it is strongly maths based?

Nope it's not majorly maths based. You do 2 different kinds of accounting and statistics in first year so it might be a challenge but everything is thought from a beginners level so no previous experience is needed. Programming is not expressed through maths, you need to have basic maths to understand calculations when coding but pass maths would do you fine I'd say! Hope this helps

JeremyH

rorrissey wrote: »

Hey, I'm interested in this course as well, but I was talking to my guidance counsellor today and she suggested that because maths is not my strong point, I may find the programming side of this course difficult. Just wondering if it is strongly maths based?

I hear this a lot and it annoys me intensely. There is very little maths in the programming you will encounter in BIS and what little there is is primary school/junior cert stuff (I teach programming to BIS1). There is no trig, there is no calculus - nothing near it. It's poor form for guidance counsellors to be peddling this myth when they obviously don't know what they are talking about.

CoderDojo will run in UCC again this year. Pop along to some of the sessions and you can see whether you like programming or not.

rorrissey

JeremyH wrote: »

I hear this a lot and it annoys me intensely. There is very little maths in the programming you will encounter in BIS and what little there is is primary school/junior cert stuff (I teach programming to BIS1). There is no trig, there is no calculus - nothing near it. It's poor form for guidance counsellors to be peddling this myth when they obviously don't know what they are talking about.

CoderDojo will run in UCC again this year. Pop along to some of the sessions and you can see whether you like programming or not.

Yeah, I definitely plan on heading to some of those sessions! I had searched around the internet before and read that it wasn't that difficult, but the guidance counsellor made it seem off putting. Thanks for clarifying that for me!

eoincro

hey im really interested in the business and programming side of this course but I'm really off put by the accounting as I did not like it for junior cert. Is there much accounting involved?

JeremyH

eoincro wrote: »

hey im really interested in the business and programming side of this course but I'm really off put by the accounting as I did not like it for junior cert. Is there much accounting involved?

There's a bit. 2 modules in 1st year, 1 in 2nd.

For the record, I hated accounting when I did my postgrad in BIS. I focused on getting a good pass in those modules and scoring high grades in programming and the other IS modules to bring up my overall grade. Though, I loved Finance funnily enough.

There are 9 modules in first year so it's not a massive part of the course.

Most people hate the programming side so if you are interested in that you are probably on the right track.

titan18

eoincro wrote: »

hey im really interested in the business and programming side of this course but I'm really off put by the accounting as I did not like it for junior cert. Is there much accounting involved?

There's 2 modules in 1st year, and one in 2nd year, with an option of Finance that year, and you can do accounting in 4th year if you wanted to.

Modules in 1st year aren't bad, similar in practice to the LC course, but with more theory. As long as you turn up to the classes, it's grand though and won't drag your grade down. In 2nd year, it goes into more detail on one of them but the lecturer we had was great, so it should be no problem.

As long as you put a bit of work in, the accounting modules won't affect doing well in the course as there's enough modules and variety in the first few years that you'd do well, especially if you're into programming. You can specialise later in the course so if you're just interested in programming, you can leave out the business modules and focus on that.

p sherman

what exactly does an IT consultant do?