Geordie bouncer bodyslams man, caught on camera

arybvtcw0eolkf

UCDVet wrote: »

Are you kidding?

That guy just handed that little fool a bag full of money. The bouncer was acting in an official capacity and the little fool is going to sue him and the club that employed him.

He might have been a bad customer, a jerk, or running his mouth. But the video clearly shows the first blow, a kick, to the customer's leg.

The bouncer will lose his job and face criminal prosecution. The fact that he's a professional, trained to deal with unruly customers means he's held to a higher standard. The guy, who probably is a scumbag anyway, stands to milk this for a lot of money. His medical bills will be paid for him, he'll probably have 'continued pain' and be 'unable to concentrate or work' for the foreseeable future. And he stands to get a payout from the courts.

You're looking at someone's phone recording of a row.. I bet the club/street CCTV shows an entirely different altercation.

I've been in this situ probably more than a few hundred times over the last twenty years, the punter won't get a dime from the club.

Mobile phones recordings are a scourge, but good entertainment for youtube/liveleaks & discussion forum.

Omackeral

BAH GOD HE'S BROKEN IN HALF!!!

Banjo String

Madisyn Ambitious Snowmobile wrote: »

So too could a slap.

Bouncer done well, the second bouncer (the one who stood by) was a windy cu*t who could have helped his mate restrain the guy until the cops were called/arrived ~ I'd lay the portion of blame on this lad.

Getting picked up and dump trucked ~ tough sh*t.

I literally meant a slap. A wise up/ sober up slap. Not a punch to the head.

I agree about the second bouncer though. What a coward. Standin there incase the scrawny lad 'got the better' of his mate.

Banjo String

Banjo String wrote: »

I literally meant a slap. A wise up/ sober up slap. Not a punch to the head.

I agree about the second bouncer though. What a coward. Standin there incase the scrawny lad 'got the better' of his mate.

Wise-up slaps to drunks looking for a fight are a famously effective way to calm them down.

Tobyglen

Madisyn Ambitious Snowmobile wrote: »

You're looking at someone's phone recording of a row.. I bet the club/street CCTV shows an entirely different altercation.

I've been in this situ probably more than a few hundred times over the last twenty years, the punter won't get a dime from the club.

Mobile phones recordings are a scourge, but good entertainment for youtube/liveleaks & discussion forum.

You have a conflict of interest so to speak if you're a bouncer. In my town the footage from nightclubs was continuously "not working" when an altercation happened until the judge ordered the club to be closed.

You have made a lot of presumptions above. There have been plenty of cases where clubs have been sued in recent years. That footage is very damning on the bouncer and I would be surprised if it doesn't go further.

LLLINDAAA

Banjo String wrote: »

I literally meant a slap. A wise up/ sober up slap. Not a punch to the head.

I agree about the second bouncer though. What a coward. Standin there incase the scrawny lad 'got the better' of his mate.

He doesn't look scrawny to me! average build I'd say. But the second bouncer should have intervened.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Banjo String wrote: »

I literally meant a slap. A wise up/ sober up slap. Not a punch to the head.

Maybe he did, or maybe the punter gave the bouncer a slap?... But really it never works like that, you give someone a slap and they move on with a lesson learned.

Like I said all we're seeing is someone's phone recording of a row, I bet the club cctv shows it differently.

All we see is the lad getting knocked out from being dumped on his head/back ~ its easy to KO a drunk, and speaking from experience the fall wasn't really that hard.

Jester252

That not really a bodyslam.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Tobyglen wrote: »

In my town the footage from nightclubs was continuously "not working" when an altercation happened until the judge ordered the club to be closed.

See this is a spoof I hear a lot, a licence is never granted (or taken away) from a bar/club because it has or has not got working CCTV.

CCTV in a club is there for the bar/clubs own protection and has nothing to do with licencing.

Don't be listening to barrack room solicitors.

PhlegmyMoses

Madisyn Ambitious Snowmobile wrote: »

Maybe he did, or maybe the punter gave the bouncer a slap?... But really it never works like that, you give someone a slap and they move on with a lesson learned.

Like I said all we're seeing is someone's phone recording of a row, I bet the club cctv shows it differently.

All we see is the lad getting knocked out from being dumped on his head/back ~ its easy to KO a drunk, and speaking from experience the fall wasn't really that hard.

Agreed that it looks bad from the initial point of the recording and I somehow doubt that this bouncer just decided on the spur of the moment to engage this punter, having probably dealt with 10 other abusive dickheads that night alone.

However, when you pick somebody up and dump them down like that you're asking for trouble for yourself. A guy in a wheelchair is a prosecutor's dream. The argument would be that if he was strong enough to lift a man and slam him into the ground he would have been strong enough to restrain the guy without resorting to that level of physicality.

We can get into the necessary force argument but I wouldn't want to be even putting myself in a position to have that discussion about my actions and his mate that stands there watching is a dick for allowing that to go on as far as it did.

Banjo String

Deleted User wrote: »

Wise-up slaps to drunks looking for a fight are a famously effective way to calm them down.

At least they've always the body slam to fall back on so.

The div in the video certainly looked calm after that.

donfers

Madisyn Ambitious Snowmobile wrote: »

Maybe he did, or maybe the punter gave the bouncer a slap?... But really it never works like that, you give someone a slap and they move on with a lesson learned.

Like I said all we're seeing is someone's phone recording of a row, I bet the club cctv shows it differently.

All we see is the lad getting knocked out from being dumped on his head/back ~ its easy to KO a drunk, and speaking from experience the fall wasn't really that hard.

what a load of rubbish, so you think the CCTV will magically show something different, it doesn't matter what angle we look at it, what happened happened

ok the guy could be a scumbag so what? just restrain and send him on his way, no need to bodyslam the guy, too many bouncers taking too many steroids and too dumb to realise that playing the hardmen is the wrong option, not just giving the decent bouncers a bad name but could you have you up in court and jail

it's all too easy to say "he deserved it", "teach him a lesson etc.", I've seen a lot of thugs and ignorant behavior in my time, if I tried to knock everybody out who called me names or fronted up I'd have a criminal record to make a gangster blush

bouncers who let petty ideas about machismo and posturing get in the way of rule of law do not deserve to patrol the door

BillyMitchel

Bouncers are trained in the UK not to react. This eejit reacted. Lost his cool/head whatever you want to call it. Other fella is a gob****e, what we don't see is if his body just hit the ground or did his head. I'd say he's a few broken ribs all the same.

When I lived in the UK bouncers using violence was an every night thing. Big huge over six foot fockers that must of came in at over 20 stone and they'd have no problem hitting a tiny skinny fellas in gobber and knocking them clean out with their noses on the other side of the street. Crap yourself seeing this stuff!

Bouncers like the one above are nothing but bullies. He used that poor chap as a wrestling bag. Bet ye he wouldn't try that with Brock Lesner!!

Super-Rush

Not a bodyslam, more of an improvised brainbuster.

He should have drop toe holed him and put him in the figure four until the cops arrived.

Galwayguy35

Madisyn Ambitious Snowmobile wrote: »

You're looking at someone's phone recording of a row.. I bet the club/street CCTV shows an entirely different altercation.

I've been in this situ probably more than a few hundred times over the last twenty years, the punter won't get a dime from the club.

Mobile phones recordings are a scourge, but good entertainment for youtube/liveleaks & discussion forum.

He went out in the street which is a public area and away from the door of the nightclub which is private property and dumped a guy on his head, and you think he won't get done for it?

Not sure what you mean by saying you have been in this situation yourself.

PhlegmyMoses

donfers wrote: »

what a load of rubbish, so you think the CCTV will magically show something different, it doesn't matter what angle we look at it, what happened happened

What most likely happened is that this guy kept coming at the bouncer prior to the start of that video. There could have been multiple attempts to restrain him prior to the video starting and they could have sent him on his way a few times but he kept coming back. He could have tried to smash the bouncer with a glass. Blindsided him and punched him a few times in the face before the video started.

Essentially, we're only seeing a snippet. We're not seeing what happened prior to that video being taken. Because I sincerely doubt that the bouncer is just reacting to a few words. If it is just the bouncer reacting to a few words then it is not indicative of the bouncers I've encountered. They get it every night and it's water off a duck's back. It would take a lot to get them to engage a punter like that.

arybvtcw0eolkf

donfers wrote: »

what a load of rubbish, so you think the CCTV will magically show something different, it doesn't matter what angle we look at it, what happened happened

ok the guy could be a scumbag so what? just restrain and send him on his way, no need to bodyslam the guy, too many bouncers taking too many steroids

Have you ever tried to restrain someone?.. It would have been far easier had the second bouncer done his job and helped his buddy.. the bouncer isn't particularly big, I doubt he uses steroids.

donfers wrote: »

it's all too easy to say "he deserved it", "teach him a lesson etc.", I've seen a lot of thugs and ignorant behavior in my time, if I tried to knock everybody out who called me names or fronted up I'd have a criminal record to make a gangster blush

He probably did deserve it, and I doubt you've seen a lot of thug & ignorant behaviour in your time, and I doubt you've the ability to knock too many people out.

donfers wrote: »

bouncers who let petty ideas about machismo and posturing get in the way of rule of law do not deserve to patrol the door

"patrol the door" LOL, right well I've had a long busy and tiring weekend so I'm off to bed.. Goodnight, my PM inbox is open ~ I won't be replying again tonight or tomorrow.

Artful_Badger

BillyMitchel wrote: »

Bouncers are trained in the UK not to react. This eejit reacted. Lost his cool/head whatever you want to call it. Other fella is a gob****e, what we don't see is if his body just hit the ground or did his head. I'd say he's a few broken ribs all the same.

When I lived in the UK bouncers using violence was an every night thing. Big huge over six foot fockers that must of came in at over 20 stone and they'd have no problem hitting a tiny skinny fellas in gobber and knocking them clean out with their noses on the other side of the street. Crap yourself seeing this stuff!

Bouncers like the one above are nothing but bullies. He used that poor chap as a wrestling bag. Bet ye he wouldn't try that with Brock Lesner!!

At the same time though they are only human and they deal with some amount of shít. Not excusing the guy but you will never get perfection in any job and with the amount of skinny idiots thinking they can take on the world after a few drinks you're gonna end up with some bouncers losing their cool. Its unavoidable. That little weed made his own bed there and he got pile driven into it.

If it was two drunken idiots it would be shrugged off and forgotten but because its a guy losing his cool with some drunken idiot while trying to do his job its an atrocity and the guy will probably lose his job over it.

Irlandczyk

Frankly amazed at the amount of people on this thread who think the bouncer was in the right here, or who said it 'taught the little punk a lesson' or some other such shíte. Some scrote is mouthing off to a bouncer or anyone for that matter, and that gives the bouncer a right to pick him up and drop him on his head? Depending on how that guy landed on the ground, he could have sustained some serious injuries.

What-the-actual-fúck is wrong with the YouTube generation these days? Seeing someone being picked up and dropped on their heads these days is met with a chuckle, a "hellz yeehh", and a thumbs up. This is disgraceful stuff, no matter how hassled/pissed off the bouncer was feeling on the night.

Restrain the guy until the guards got there, or have him on his way. /rant

BillyMitchel

Artful_Badger wrote: »

At the same time though they are only human and they deal with some amount of shít. Not excusing the guy but you will never get perfection in any job and with the amount of skinny idiots thinking they can take on the world after a few drinks you're gonna end up with some bouncers losing their cool. Its unavoidable. That little weed made his own bed there and he got pile driven into it.

If it was two drunken idiots it would be shrugged off and forgotten but because its a guy losing his cool with some drunken idiot while trying to do his job its an atrocity and the guy will probably lose his job over it.

Bouncers aren't the only ones that put up with drunken eejits on a daily basis but yet people in other professions keep their cool.

There is zero excuse for the bouncer to react like this.

Hope that fella got himself a good solicitor.

demanufactured

That was completely deserved..he should have picked him up and slammed him a second time...then an elbow drop off the car roof for good measure.

Artful_Badger

BillyMitchel wrote: »

Bouncers aren't the only ones that put up with drunken eejits on a daily basis but yet people in other professions keep their cool.

There is zero excuse for the bouncer to react like this.

Hope that fella got himself a good solicitor.

They are one of the few who regularly have to physically deal with drunken eejits though and often aggressive ones at that.

Unlike the police they have no ability to cuff these people and haul them off to a cell to cool down. Only put up with it or in some case snap and teach some drunken idiot a valuable life lesson. Drink doesnt make you any less of a weedy little shít so best not start rows with guys who will plant you in the pavement.

Dempsey

Bouncer should do jail time for that, cowardly scumbag. And his 'buddy' waiting in the wing should lose his licence

take everything

UCDVet wrote: »

Are you kidding?

That guy just handed that little fool a bag full of money. The bouncer was acting in an official capacity and the little fool is going to sue him and the club that employed him.

He might have been a bad customer, a jerk, or running his mouth. But the video clearly shows the first blow, a kick, to the customer's leg.

The bouncer will lose his job and face criminal prosecution. The fact that he's a professional, trained to deal with unruly customers means he's held to a higher standard. The guy, who probably is a scumbag anyway, stands to milk this for a lot of money. His medical bills will be paid for him, he'll probably have 'continued pain' and be 'unable to concentrate or work' for the foreseeable future. And he stands to get a payout from the courts.

Doubt that'll be an issue for this guy tbh.

Systemic Risk

Have to say it looks bad for the bouncer from that clip. It lpoks like he struck first. However we only see the incident from where the clip begins. We dont know if the guy in the blue shirt already tried to go for the bouncer before the clip starts or even a different bouncer. If he did and then approaches the bouncer in a threatening manner then the bouncer can probably justify that part of his action in court.

The slam is a bit difficult to justify but it would be very dependent on the overall context of the incident which we dont know. They seem like a very unprofessional team going by the fact the second bouncer didnt get involved. For this reason i would be a bit doubtful that extra evidence in favour of the bouncer would be captured on cctv. At the very least however he musta been already causing a scene or else why would the cameraman have started recording. Not enough info unfortunately.

Smidge

Artful_Badger wrote: »

They are one of the few who regularly have to physically deal with drunken eejits though and often aggressive ones at that.

Unlike the police they have no ability to cuff these people and haul them off to a cell to cool down. Only put up with it or in some case snap and teach some drunken idiot a valuable life lesson. Drink doesnt make you any less of a weedy little shít so best not start rows with guys who will plant you in the pavement.

That'll be taxi men actually.
After the bouncer and Guard and everyone else send them on their way its the taxi who takes them home who get most of the hassle.

Also, shocked at folks on here who think that the bouncers response to a drunken lad was fitting.
How many on here have been blathered on a night and got a wee bit mouthy(be HONEST )?
How would you have liked to be treated like that?
And before all the "if I behaved like that it would serve me right to have my neck broke/ribs smashed yada yada" bravado nonsense starts, think about what the bouncer actually did!!!!

An animal imo

h2005

Madisyn Ambitious Snowmobile wrote: »

So too could a slap.

Bouncer done well, the second bouncer (the one who stood by) was a windy cu*t who could have helped his mate restrain the guy until the cops were called/arrived ~ I'd lay the portion of blame on this lad.

Getting picked up and dump trucked ~ tough sh*t.

Going by the quotes from the police its going to be tough **** for the bouncer.

Starokan

Context is very important here; that guy could well have been ejected from the premises, might already have been restrained (cops dont arrest everyone bouncers restrain, many times they just send them on their way and they come back) , he could be well known and be a serious danger to the doormen. You just can't tell from this clip.

I leased a club for good few years and employed a lot of doormen; some genuinely are power hungry psychos and you get rid of them quick smart once you see it but the majority are decent lads who take a lot of grief doing a damn hard job. In this case without seeing more footage its impossible to call. If there is no previous footage here then he deserves to answer for behaving the way he did

One thing id be fairly sure of though and thats that the lad who got put down here was never going home without causing some serious trouble. Had he not gone at the bouncer you can be fairly sure he was attacking some innocent bystander somewhere with no one to stop him, I hate violence and that clip is sickening to watch but i dont have a lot of sympathy for him.

The Backwards Man

I know that bouncer, I was walking by one night to the Rose and Crown just below it and he jumped out in front of me disco-style and shouts 'Not tonight lad!' at me.

I laughed and says 'I won't be that ****hole any night' and walked on. Always give him a smile now when I'm passing.

Artful_Badger

Smidge wrote: »

That'll be taxi men actually.
After the bouncer and Guard and everyone else send them on their way its the taxi who takes them home who get most of the hassle.

Also, shocked at folks on here who think that the bouncers response to a drunken lad was fitting.
How many on here have been blathered on a night and got a wee bit mouthy(be HONEST )?
How would you have liked to be treated like that?
And before all the "if I behaved like that it would serve me right to have my neck broke/ribs smashed yada yada" bravado nonsense starts, think about what the bouncer actually did!!!!

An animal imo

Taxi drivers have to physically deal with aggressive drunker idiots more than bouncers ? I dont think so.

I have never gotten mouthy to a bouncer and certainly never gotten in one face with the intent of having a fight with one. Because even when drunk I'm not an aggressive scumbag. I never said it was fitting either, only that if you are intent on starting a fight with someone much bigger than you then chances are you wont end up on the right side of it.

Being drunk is no excuse to be a mouthy violent little scumbag either btw. Just because the bouncer was wrong doesnt mean the drunk guy was innocent. So excuse me if I dont give two shíts about some drunken scummer who got in a fight with a bouncer in the UK.

Dempsey

Starokan wrote: »

Context is very important here; that guy could well have been ejected from the premises, might already have been restrained (cops dont arrest everyone bouncers restrain, many times they just send them on their way and they come back) , he could be well known and be a serious danger to the doormen. You just can't tell from this clip.

I leased a club for good few years and employed a lot of doormen; some genuinely are power hungry psychos and you get rid of them quick smart once you see it but the majority are decent lads who take a lot of grief doing a damn hard job. In this case without seeing more footage its impossible to call. If there is no previous footage here then he deserves to answer for behaving the way he did

One thing id be fairly sure of though and thats that the lad who got put down here was never going home without causing some serious trouble. Had he not gone at the bouncer you can be fairly sure he was attacking some innocent bystander somewhere with no one to stop him, I hate violence and that clip is sickening to watch but i dont have a lot of sympathy for him.

BS, if he was a known troublemaker, why didnt his buddy help restrain him?

I know doormen, its a tough job and people like them dont make their job any easier.

Starokan

Dempsey wrote: »

BS, if he was a known troublemaker, why didnt his buddy help restrain him?

I know doormen, its a tough job and people like them dont make their job any easier.

My point was we dont know im not saying that was the case im saying it could be one of many reasons; based purely on that clip the other bouncer did not do his job at all

Smidge

Artful_Badger wrote: »

Taxi drivers have to physically deal with aggressive drunker idiots more than bouncers ? I dont think so.

I have never gotten mouthy to a bouncer and certainly never gotten in one face with the intent of having a fight with one. Because even when drunk I'm not an aggressive scumbag. I never said it was fitting either, only that if you are intent on starting a fight with someone much bigger than you then chances are you wont end up on the right side of it.

Being drunk is no excuse to be a mouthy violent little scumbag either btw. Just because the bouncer was wrong doesnt mean the drunk guy was innocent. So excuse me if I dont give two shíts about some drunken scummer who got in a fight with a bouncer in the UK.

If you don't care about it, why do you sound so annoyed?

Also, think about it?
After the drunkard has a row with whoever it may be barman/bouncer/chip shop server and so and gets sent on his drunken way but is now riled up to the hilt, who is his last post of call?
A taxi, that's who*



*I am not/never have been a taxi driver btw:D

MonaPizza

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Joking aside, this is the type of clown that will pick on some randomer walking home or in a bar. The classic unprovoked assault.

How many times have we heard of this happening to someone mind there own business. Luckliy this eejit decided to blow off some steam with someone who was able to defend himself.

I appreciate that the bouncers are there to ensure safety of all, including drunks. However, in this instance, when you start/initiate an assault you are fair game.

The d1ck got what he deserved and it also prevented him from taking out his frustration on an innocent person on his way from this bar/club. He is clearly agitated about something (refused entry/thrown out) and maybe he will have learnt his lesson. However, I think not...

There's a big difference between defending yourself from a guy who poses a genuine threat and someone who is a drunken fool....and don't give me the whatiffery crap like "he could have had a knife or been on something that would make him super-human" and there's certainly a big difference between defending yourself and potentially killing or paralysing someone for life.

MonaPizza

Elephant Man from china wrote: »

I agree, but you can be sure that little fool will think before he runs his mouth again.. The bouncer, while out of order, has done society a favour by making a brain dead little scobe think before he acts the prick in future..

Would you be as happy if the outcome was that the guy spent the rest of his life in a wheelchair?
Would you be all "hey, sh!t happens, don't play with fire, serves him right?" then?

If a drunk bloke mouths off to some bouncer and the bouncer holds him down and beats him into a coma with a knuckleduster would you be all hard and dismissive then?

MonaPizza

UCDVet wrote: »

Are you kidding?

That guy just handed that little fool a bag full of money. The bouncer was acting in an official capacity and the little fool is going to sue him and the club that employed him.

He might have been a bad customer, a jerk, or running his mouth. But the video clearly shows the first blow, a kick, to the customer's leg.

The bouncer will lose his job and face criminal prosecution. The fact that he's a professional, trained to deal with unruly customers means he's held to a higher standard. The guy, who probably is a scumbag anyway, stands to milk this for a lot of money. His medical bills will be paid for him, he'll probably have 'continued pain' and be 'unable to concentrate or work' for the foreseeable future. And he stands to get a payout from the courts.

Agreed. The bouncer faces serious retribution now. He'll never work as a bouncer (or probably anything) ever again...maybe an enforcer for some gang after he gets out. The club and security company also better have serious liability insurance.

anncoates

The guy presentably didn't die and the bouncer probably deals with X amount of dick heads trying to beat him up every night.

Meh,

Smidge

MonaPizza wrote: »

Would you be as happy if the outcome was that the guy spent the rest of his life in a wheelchair?
Would you be all "hey, sh!t happens, don't play with fire, serves him right?" then?

If a drunk bloke mouths off to some bouncer and the bouncer holds him down and beats him into a coma with a knuckleduster would you be all hard and dismissive then?

You mean like this?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2394396/CCTV-footage-shows-moment-doorman-struck-single-boxers-punch-gave-Scott-Sheard-fatal-brain-damage.html


Bouncer or no, this kind of response(and this bouncer got away with it)and the one in the OP are not on.
How many policemen/Guards inflict this kind of injury and they deal with a hell of a lot worse than doormen so something doesn't tally.

MonaPizza

Madisyn Ambitious Snowmobile wrote: »

You're looking at someone's phone recording of a row.. I bet the club/street CCTV shows an entirely different altercation.

I've been in this situ probably more than a few hundred times over the last twenty years, the punter won't get a dime from the club.

Mobile phones recordings are a scourge, but good entertainment for youtube/liveleaks & discussion forum.

How do you know this or are you just guessing?
And why do you say mobile phone recordings are a scourge? Because they have the potential to expose excessive brutality, violence, criminality?

For someone who refers to their combat training at every possible opportunity you certainly have a poor grasp of the philosophy behind the martial arts. Using someone's motion and mistakes to defend yourself and bring the threat (if there is one) to a conclusion is not exactly the same thing as ramming someone full force onto a concrete pavement.

donfers

Madisyn Ambitious Snowmobile wrote: »

and I doubt you've seen a lot of thug & ignorant behaviour in your time, and I doubt you've the ability to knock too many people out.
.

more garbage...just like you assume cctv shows different footage than a mobile, you now make assumptions about someone you don't even know

fancying yourself as a hardman or being a mod elsewhere doesn't give you the right to invent stuff with zero evidence

MonaPizza

Artful_Badger wrote: »

They are one of the few who regularly have to physically deal with drunken eejits though and often aggressive ones at that.

Unlike the police they have no ability to cuff these people and haul them off to a cell to cool down. Only put up with it or in some case snap and teach some drunken idiot a valuable life lesson. Drink doesnt make you any less of a weedy little shít so best not start rows with guys who will plant you in the pavement.

Really? Funny all the hypothetical situations people come up with. Last weekend I was walking home through temple bar after popping to Centra.
Outside Fitzsimons there was a rake of commotion. Two of the doormen/bouncers had taken a guy to the pavement and were restraining him in what looked like a fairly effective position. The guy was clearly drunk and very aggressive. He was also big...much bigger than the guy who got slammed into the pavement yet the two bouncers had him well restrained on his back, weight on legs, knee on shoulder and other arm pinned. Guy's girlfriend was also kicking off and was being dealt with by a third doorman. The Guards arrived (they had been alerted by the bouncers) and then the guy was let up and handed to the police. He was then taken aside and forced to explain himself to them. What the outcome was I didn't wait to find out.

These two cocksuckers in the video could easily have done the same but no. This guy just wanted an excuse to inflict some low-risk extreme violence on an easy target.

darced

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ruthloss

BillyMitchel wrote: »

Bouncers aren't the only ones that put up with drunken eejits on a daily basis but yet people in other professions keep their cool.

There is zero excuse for the bouncer to react like this.

Hope that fella got himself a good solicitor.

And that my friend, is why 'other professions' keep their cool. Not that they wouldn't love to slap the heads off the drunken eejits.

Artful_Badger

Smidge wrote: »

If you don't care about it, why do you sound so annoyed?

Also, think about it?
After the drunkard has a row with whoever it may be barman/bouncer/chip shop server and so and gets sent on his drunken way but is now riled up to the hilt, who is his last post of call?
A taxi, that's who*



*I am not/never have been a taxi driver btw:D

I'm not annoyed just making clear I am not condoning the bouncers behavior but at the same time dont really care that some drunken idiot got slammed after starting a fight with him.

Last person to deal with drunks may be taxi drivers, but its not a hands on job and they are not forcing people off a premises. They dont physically deal with people and as such are less likely to have a physical altercation with them. Still happens but no way in hell it happens more often than with bouncers.

Artful_Badger

MonaPizza wrote: »

Really? Funny all the hypothetical situations people come up with. Last weekend I was walking home through temple bar after popping to Centra.
Outside Fitzsimons there was a rake of commotion. Two of the doormen/bouncers had taken a guy to the pavement and were restraining him in what looked like a fairly effective position. The guy was clearly drunk and very aggressive. He was also big...much bigger than the guy who got slammed into the pavement yet the two bouncers had him well restrained on his back, weight on legs, knee on shoulder and other arm pinned. Guy's girlfriend was also kicking off and was being dealt with by a third doorman. The Guards arrived (they had been alerted by the bouncers) and then the guy was let up and handed to the police. He was then taken aside and forced to explain himself to them. What the outcome was I didn't wait to find out.

These two cocksuckers in the video could easily have done the same but no. This guy just wanted an excuse to inflict some low-risk extreme violence on an easy target.

What has any of that got to do with me or hypothetical situations ? I never said the guy did the right thing but bouncers cant restrain people and call the cops willy nilly. They can only do it once it kicks off and the person gets violent. You take a lot of situations where there is a lot of mouthing off and then a physical altercation and its just simply unrealistic to think it will end perfectly 100% of the time. The odd occasion someone loses the cool which seems to have happened here. As much as you want bouncers to be the perfect human beings its never gonna happen. They are just huge blokes on the door of shítty pubs and clubs that get a lot of hassle.

Oranage2

Certain jobs attract certain people and due to the nature of the job, bouncing attracts your typical not so smart big alpha male type.

There needs to be proper rules in place, come down hard on bouncers that assault members of the public and also come down hard on people that attack bouncers.

bumper234

The doorman's actions (while he may have been defending himself) are disgraceful. Saying that on the other hand the second doorman is as much to blame for this incident getting to the stage it did by not stepping in straight away and helping to restrain the guy. Not a great night for any involved imo.

Oranage2

bumper234 wrote: »

The doorman's actions (while he may have been defending himself) are disgraceful. Saying that on the other hand the second doorman is as much to blame for this incident getting to the stage it did by not stepping in straight away and helping to restrain the guy. Not a great night for any involved imo.

Bouncers are just members of the public, their job is to police the clubs right of admission. The second bouncer is as much to blame as any other member of the public witnessing it, which is none at all.

bumper234

Oranage2 wrote: »

Bouncers are just members of the public, their job is to police the clubs right of admission. The second bouncer is as much to blame as any other member of the public witnessing it, which is none at all.

The second doorman should have intervened and helped his colleague to restrain the guy then it would not have come to its life threatening conclusion, while the second doorman may not be legally obliged to intervene he most certainly is "expected" to help his work colleague.

Oranage2

bumper234 wrote: »

The second doorman should have intervened and helped his colleague to restrain the guy then it would not have come to its life threatening conclusion, while the second doorman may not be legally obliged to intervene he most certainly is "expected" to help his work colleague.

Judging by the video the bouncer just ran out and started assaulting the guy, we don't know what the other bouncers relationship is to the first one, it's not his job to stop street fights.