Jesse Ventura Howard Stern 2016

sin_city

Ventura is waiting on confirmation from Stern to go as his running mate. Would be great to see as Ventura already had success in breaking the 2 party system at state level.

Would really love to see more direct people involved in politics like him. I hope this goes ahead regardless of how he does as I think America and the world desperately needs some straight talk.

Wouldn't it be great to see Ventura involved in a debate. He acquits himself very well despite media attempts to downplay his words.

heartseeker

No not at all,hes a disinfo agent as far as Im concerned and some of the his sensationalized tv programs only seem intent on whipping up fear and hysteria.The fact that he has any connection with the unstable alex jones says it all really.

sin_city wrote: »

Ventura is waiting on confirmation from Stern to go as his running mate. Would be great to see as Ventura already had success in breaking the 2 party system at state level.



Would really love to see more direct people involved in politics like him. I hope this goes ahead regardless of how he does as I think America and the world desperately needs some straight talk.

Wouldn't it be great to see Ventura involved in a debate. He acquits himself very well despite media attempts to downplay his words.

sin_city

What information (or misinformation) are you referring to?

The reason I like him is because he asks questions that need to be answered.

Alex Jones is becoming more mainstream which is hard to believe.

I think his style is crazy but I do think he also asks some important questions.

He recently had Peter Schiff and Ron Paul on his show. Both of these people predicted the crash of 2008 years in advance.

Ventura aligns himself a lot with the Libertarian viewpoint also.

I think to dismiss people like this is a missed opportunity since they have been right more or less 100% of the time in the past few years.

InTheTrees

sin_city wrote: »

Would be great to see as Ventura already had success in breaking the 2 party system at state level.

Success? Ventura blew it so badly in Minnesota that he wont be able to run away from it.

Either he runs as a republican which means he'll get laughed out of he primaries, or he'll run as an independant, which means nobody will take him seriously.

And Stern is certainly a losing choice as VP.

Having said that... I'd be happy if he ran. Stir it up a bit.

sin_city

InTheTrees wrote: »

Success? Ventura blew it so badly in Minnesota that he wont be able to run away from it.

I am being genuine here. How did he blow it? He didn't run for re-election for family reasons.

InTheTrees

sin_city wrote: »

I am being genuine here. How did he blow it? He didn't run for re-election for family reasons.

I know. We have lot of family in Minnesota so have been following him for a long time.

He's a celebrity. Which shouldnt be a reason to discount him but he has no political party so little to no support in the state legislature so not a lot gets done and in seeking to sooth both sides he pissed most people off.

But worst of all, a "one termer" is considered a political failure. And leaving a job to "spend more time with family" is traditionally the reason given when politicians quit to avoid scandal. I know thats not (supposedly) the reason he quit but it doesnt help appearances.

His wacky conspiracy theory TV programme wont help him either.

And then there's howard stern... :eek:

heartseeker

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoXT91Q8EzM


This video explains in brief why the likes of alex jones, david icke, julian assange and jesse ventura are allowed to operate with impunity as a means of muddying the waters and descrediting real truth movements.Jesse ventura is just a TV network star and anytime I ever see him he is either peddling some new book/dvd to make money off vulnerable people who have a thirst for knowledge . These people work for those who own, control everything and have real power to even take charge of opposition viewpoints as a means of silencing those that pose any threat or indeed might be closest to getting to the truth about the real agenda of the worldly elite in the troubled current state of world affairs.

Black Swan

Howard Stern from Shock Radio and America's Got Talent? He would be the worst VP running mate for 2016, no matter what party he represented. By far worse than Sara Palin was for John McCain in 2008. While Palin had very limited experience as a mayor of the tiny city of Wasilla, 1-year as state gas commissioner, and quit halfway through her 1st term as Alaska's governor, Stern has absolutely no experience that would prepare him for the 2nd highest office of the United States, much less to chair the US Senate. Those 100 Senators would eat him alive in a matter of minutes.

And what if something happened to the president? I cannot envision Howard Stern as President of a 310 million population nation, Chief Executive Officer of an extraordinarily complex government and economy, and Commander-in-Chief of the most powerful military. Very unlike our Irish presidency, the US presidency is probably the most difficult, complex, and powerful office in the world.

My guess is this is a celebrity publicity stunt by Stern to improve his ratings. Stern for Vice President of the US in 2016 is a fantasy only suitable for a telly sitcom.

withless

I for one, would like to see Beetlejuice as Secretary of State for Education, Jeff the Drunk as Secretary of Defence and Ronnie the Limo Driver as Secretary of Homeland Security.

sin_city

That response reminded me of this:

MonaPizza

sin_city wrote: »

Ventura is waiting on confirmation from Stern to go as his running mate. Would be great to see as Ventura already had success in breaking the 2 party system at state level.

Would really love to see more direct people involved in politics like him. I hope this goes ahead regardless of how he does as I think America and the world desperately needs some straight talk.

Wouldn't it be great to see Ventura involved in a debate. He acquits himself very well despite media attempts to downplay his words.

So it's come to this, eh? People who are valid candidates to run a Western country (not just ANY Western country but one with 300 million people and a nuclear arsenal that could blow a hole in the universe) now hail from the ranks of fake wrestling loudmouths and sneering clowns who made millions slagging off homeless people on the air or interviewing porn queens. This is the calibre of people who should be ruling a nation? Not someone who has degrees and IQ up there in the stratosphere?

Kind of makes a mockery of the entire office.
It seems now heresy that an American president should have any acedemic qualification beyond a bought and paid for Associates Degree and can't even identify foreign countries or leaders.

Perish the thought that an American leader should be as qualified as being an actual professor. Now you just have to be an idiot in order to connect with the cretins over whom you reign.

sin_city

MonaPizza wrote: »

So it's come to this, eh? People who are valid candidates to run a Western country (not just ANY Western country but one with 300 million people and a nuclear arsenal that could blow a hole in the universe) now hail from the ranks of fake wrestling loudmouths and sneering clowns who made millions slagging off homeless people on the air or interviewing porn queens. This is the calibre of people who should be ruling a nation? Not someone who has degrees and IQ up there in the stratosphere?

Kind of makes a mockery of the entire office.
It seems now heresy that an American president should have any acedemic qualification beyond a bought and paid for Associates Degree and can't even identify foreign countries or leaders.

Perish the thought that an American leader should be as qualified as being an actual professor. Now you just have to be an idiot in order to connect with the cretins over whom you reign.

I take it back....you're right....We need more people like George Bush.

We need more people with integrity like Bill Clinton.

We need more honest people like George Bush senior.

Why don't you look at what a person stands for instead of what you think profession they should have.

I'd love to see him in a debate with the status quo. He makes great points about how there is no real difference between republicans and democrats.

Let's be honest, there isn't really.

Conas

Jesse Ventura would be a fantastic President, the best thing since JFK.

But the sad reality is the who political system is corrupt in America, and Presidents are handpicked now, just like George W Bush was. Ventura would be screwed right, left and centre if he was in the running. He'd more than likely follow the same faith as JFK, he'd be assassinated. Ron Paul shone like a beacon, and he had no hope whatsoever of ever been elected, they would have murdered him too. The gallery, and the men with the money need people like Mitt Romney, who are in the back pocket of the Military Industrial Complex, and Federal Reserve. People who have morals and have brains don't get elected.

American people would be thick and stupid enough to vote in someone like Jeb Bush.

It's almost funny these days, the American goverment have screwed the American people into the ground, and the people took it smiling. I find it funny, but don't go pointing fingers, you only have yourselves to blame.

InTheTrees

sin_city wrote: »

He makes great points about how there is no real difference between republicans and democrats.

Explain please.

Jobs, Healthcare, defense...

How exactly are republicans and Democrats in any way similar?

If anything Washington DC is more divided than its ever been so i'm curious as to why you cant seem to be able to tell the difference?

InTheTrees

sin_city wrote: »

Would be great to see as Ventura already had success in breaking the 2 party system at state level.

An independent getting elected isnt really a great success in "breaking" the two party system.

InTheTrees

Conas wrote: »

Jesse Ventura would be a fantastic President, the best thing since JFK.

No he wouldnt. He did one term as govenor and then quit because he couldnt hack it.

Howard Stern could do way better if he wants a PR stunt.

Conas

InTheTrees wrote: »

No he wouldnt. He did one term as govenor and then quit because he couldnt hack it.

Howard Stern could do way better if he wants a PR stunt.

What a stupid statement, he seen out his term as governor so that's not quitting. If he quit, he would have done it during his term like Sarah Palin did.

Anything, and anyone would be better than having another Democrat or Republican in 2016. Please god in heaven, the world deserves and needs better. Hilary Clinton? No No No No No! The wicked witch of the west is all she is.

Republicans, well I hear they want to increase defense spending LOL and have no interest in pumping money into education or medical research. Oh how they love their wars, death, and suffering so much. That party has been dying since Reagan started killing it, and George W finished the job off.

InTheTrees

Conas wrote: »

What a stupid statement, he seen out his term as governor so that's not quitting. If he quit, he would have done it during his term like Sarah Palin did.

No, It actually isnt stupid, its the way politics works. There's a two term limit so why didnt he run for a second term?

That equates to quitting because whatever reason he comes up with (more time with family? Srsly.), he walked out on his political supporters.

Maybe he quit because he didnt think he'd win? In other words he's either a coward or a loser.

See how it works? The press and his opponents wouldnt let him alone on why he never ran for a second term.

Conas

InTheTrees wrote: »

No, It actually isnt stupid, its the way politics works. There's a two term limit so why didnt he run for a second term?

That equates to quitting because whatever reason he comes up with (more time with family? Srsly.), he walked out on his political supporters.

Maybe he quit because he didnt think he'd win? In other words he's either a coward or a loser.

See how it works? The press and his opponents wouldnt let him alone on why he never ran for a second term.

You think it equates to quitting, but if a person sees out a term then I'd be happy with that, as opposed to someone who quits after just a year or two, which is very different in my opinion. Just because there's a two term limit, doesn't mean he has to seek the second term.

I think the reason he didn't was because his family were being subject to a lot of abuse. He was also being confronted, and stalked by the CIA.

Jonny7

Conas wrote: »

Ventura would be screwed right, left and centre if he was in the running.

We'd all love to see an angry conspiracy theorist get the world's premier job - just for sheer entertainment value, but it's not gonna happen. Even if he ran for the Dems or GOP he'd be shredded alive.

Conas

Jonny7 wrote: »

We'd all love to see an angry conspiracy theorist get the world's premier job - just for sheer entertainment value, but it's not gonna happen. Even if he ran for the Dems or GOP he'd be shredded alive.

Even with how corrupt both parties are, I'm still convinced the Democrats are the lesser of the two evils. From looking at the Republican 2012 debates, it's obvious that the Republicans are bought and paid for by the pro-Israel lobbyists. The GOP candidate is picked well in advance.

Given the way things are, it's the best possible chance for an Independent to win, but as Ventura said himself, the only way he can win is if he gets into the debates. Can't see anyone been a match for Ventura in a debate to be honest, except Ron Paul.

Jonny7

Conas wrote: »

Given the way things are, it's the best possible chance for an Independent to win, but as Ventura said himself, the only way he can win is if he gets into the debates. Can't see anyone been a match for Ventura in a debate to be honest, except Ron Paul.

Nader, Ron Paul, Ventura know they'd never win, so whilst they may run, in effect they sit on the sidelines commenting on and criticising the Dems and Reps - a simple job to do.

I would love to see one of them take, what is effectively, one of the hardest jobs in politics. But sadly that's extremely unlikely.

InTheTrees

Conas wrote: »

Just because there's a two term limit, doesn't mean he has to seek the second term.

There's really no way around it. He quit before his second term. He walked out on representing the people of Minnesota.

And he would never be left alone as to why. Why could he not deal with it? Was a TV show more attractive than serving his constituents? If he had to leave for "family" reasons why did he then do the TV show?

Or as it because he was so unpopular? In which case why would anyone vote for him again? Maybe he didnt run again because he knew he'd lose?

Plainly the pressure was too much for him otherwise he would have run again right?

Corkfeen

Jonny7 wrote: »

Nader, Ron Paul, Ventura know they'd never win, so whilst they may run, in effect they sit on the sidelines commenting on and criticising the Dems and Reps - a simple job to do.

I would love to see one of them take, what is effectively, one of the hardest jobs in politics. But sadly that's extremely unlikely.

I hope you don't mean that you'd love to see Ventura as president. :pac:

Jonny7

Corkfeen wrote: »

I hope you don't mean that you'd love to see Ventura as president. :pac:

I would, for sheer entertainment value. Like that guy who always shouts at the ref suddenly being offered the job as world cup referee..

DEFTLEFTHAND

With the kind of influence Stern has this could actually take flight. Not discounting the Ventura fans.

It's not a serious proposal though, Stern once ran for Governor of New York under the Libertarian ticket. His proposals were to reinstate the Death Penalty, higher road tolls to improve traffic congestion and limit road work to night hours.

He won his right to place his name on the final November ballot with a huge majority. He then pulled out for trivial reasons, he wouldn't disclose his financial info. He never intended running in the first place, it was a joke just like this Ventura Bull is. Jesse is a friend and a regular guest on his radio show, don't read anything into it.

Edit: Jesse may be serious but Howard isn't.. lol...