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Is wearing make-up a 'betrayal'?

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    #92
    Czarcasm
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    I feel like I've been redirected to Boards.pl or something, can't make head nor tails of the last few posts in here! :pac:


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    #93
    FurQyou
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    Czarcasm wrote: »
    I feel like I've been redirected to Boards.pl or something, can't make head nor tails of the last few posts in here! :pac:

    Renraw is blowing our minds it's awesome!


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    #94
    Pat Mustard
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    So renraw, do you wear makeup often, or just on Saturday nights?


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    #95
    FurQyou
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    Do you wear it to attract men or is just to make yourself feel more confident?


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    #96
    renraw
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    WOW...


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    #97
    Killer Wench
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    I see make-up as part of the grooming package. I would be curious to know if the same folks who said that they preferred a natural look on women also favor the natural growth of hair under arms, on legs, and especially the pubic area.


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    #98
    pharmaton
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    get told I don't wear enough make up a lot, it pi$ses me off a bit because I actually try to make an effort. If you're a woman who doesn't wear make up or follow suit with regard to clothing and pimping yourself out other women tend to look down on you or treat you like a spastic.


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    #99
    renraw
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    Calling all Angels...cause none of us are sure how this goes....even wearing eye shadow and the likes :/....


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    #100
    Legs.Eleven
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    pharmaton wrote: »
    get told I don't wear enough make up a lot, it pi$ses me off a bit because I actually try to make an effort. If you're a woman who doesn't wear make up or follow suit with regard to clothing and pimping yourself out other women tend to look down on you or treat you like a spastic.

    Pimping yourself out? I think you need to surround yourself with a new set of female friends/peers - they sound horrible. I've never been made feel that way for not dressing up to the nines or "pimping myself out".


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    #101
    Cathy.C
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    Femme_Fatale wrote: »
    Fairly suspicious of the OP with their first post.

    Who are you? The Boards Sherlock Holmes or something?
    You can ****ing well see if a guy is wearing Cuban heels.

    What's with the needless aggression?

    I was referring to the heels that some men wear, where it is not at all obvious that they are exaggeration their height. They look like normal heels, but inside the shoe the heel is actually raised up a few inches. Tom Cruise is rumoured to wear them.
    iguana wrote: »
    Ah for crying out loud OP, warn people when you are linking them to the Daily Mail.:mad:

    If you hover over links, the address appears in your browser doesn't it? Perhaps not, well in that case, be warned as I'm going to like to the Independent now.

    Many celebs went make-up free last week for charity and I felt some of them looked very beautiful. Some obviously revealed their flaws by doing so, not sure how many men would back-off from approaching them as a result though as to me they looked great. Actually, have had some male friends at work, the same ones that complemented me, say that I look more down to earth also. Haven't really been out at a club or anything since I have cut back on how much I apply, but it would be nice if a side effect of that was that men found me more approachable.


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    #102
    renraw
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    Cathy.C wrote: »
    Who are you? The Boards Sherlock Holmes or something?



    What's with the needless aggression?

    I was referring to the heels that some men wear, where it is not at all obvious that they are exaggeration their height. They look like normal heels, but inside the shoe the heel is actually raised up a few inches. Tom Cruise is rumoured to wear them.



    If you hover over links, the address appears in your browser doesn't it? Perhaps not, well in that case, be warned as I'm going to like to the Independent now.

    Many celebs went make-up free last week for charity and I felt some of them looked very beautiful. Some obviously revealed their flaws by doing so, not sure how many men would back-off from approaching them as a result though as to me they looked great. Actually, have had some male friends at work, the same ones that complemented me, say that I look more down to earth also. Haven't really been out at a club or anything since I have cut back on how much I apply, but it would be nice if a side effect of that was that men found me more approachable.

    Good God....


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    #103
    pharmaton
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    Legs.Eleven wrote: »
    Pimping yourself out? I think you need to surround yourself with a new set of female friends/peers - they sound horrible. I've never been made feel that way for not dressing up to the nines or "pimping myself out".
    its not just friends, it's colleagues, family, people I meet when I'm out. My last job I worked in a pharmacy, lots of freebies and discounts on cosmetics and from the time I started it was brought to my attention that I wore very little make up. My sisters would also have commented (and my mother when I was younger) and these days it's my daughter who's pushing the drug. They will literally apply it for me if I have an occasion to attend. I remember some years ago my nephew and sister had stopped by for a cuppa and I was wandering around barefooted in my home, probably wearing my pjs and he said with the biggest guffaw, you don't wear make up do you and when I said no he said well maybe you should start. He was about 19 and got a good laugh off it, his mother (my sister) laughed heartily along with him.

    In my last job I did tend to spend more time putting the stuff on, after getting seminars of advice from my co workers but the first thing I would do when I got home was to wipe it all off. So it's difficult to avoid it really. (and little to do with my choice of female company)
    Most women I meet find it unusual to not wear any at all.


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    #104
    FurQyou
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    Cathy.C wrote: »
    Many celebs went make-up free last week for charity and I felt some of them looked very beautiful. Some obviously revealed their flaws by doing so, not sure how many men would back-off from approaching them as a result though as to me they looked great.

    Also porn stars...

    (Don't worry, it's safe!)


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    #105
    Eeden
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    Cathy.C wrote: »
    I was referring to the heels that some men wear, where it is not at all obvious that they are exaggeration their height. They look like normal heels, but inside the shoe the heel is actually raised up a few inches. Tom Cruise is rumoured to wear them.

    I don't think a Cuban heel is hidden inside the shoe; I could be wrong, though. I always thought it was a stacked external heel, anything from 1-2 inches, usually tapering in a little.


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    #106
    pharmaton
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    ...but you could be so beautiful if only you wore some make up


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    #107
    Cyrus Tight Suspect
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    pharmaton wrote: »
    its not just friends, it's colleagues, family, people I meet when I'm out. My last job I worked in a pharmacy, lots of freebies and discounts on cosmetics and from the time I started it was brought to my attention that I wore very little make up. My sisters would also have commented (and my mother when I was younger) and these days it's my daughter who's pushing the drug. They will literally apply it for me if I have an occasion to attend. I remember some years ago my nephew and sister had stopped by for a cuppa and I was wandering around barefooted in my home, probably wearing my pjs and he said with the biggest guffaw, you don't wear make up do you and when I said no he said well maybe you should start. He was about 19 and got a good laugh off it, his mother (my sister) laughed heartily along with him.

    In my last job I did tend to spend more time putting the stuff on, after getting seminars of advice from my co workers but the first thing I would do when I got home was to wipe it all off. So it's difficult to avoid it really. (and little to do with my choice of female company)
    Most women I meet find it unusual to not wear any at all.

    That's weird. I barely wore any make-up until very recently and I can only recall a couple of comments in all that time and neither was particularly negative. One was a man asking if I wore it because he couldn't tell (I have dark eyebrows/eyelashes and naturally dark pink lips) and another was my colleague, but this was working on a hotel reception where all the other girls were done up to the nines every day with fake nail etc. I'd find it very odd for people to comment on me not wearing make-up - those people sound horrible!


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    #108
    FurQyou
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    Eeden wrote: »
    I don't think a Cuban heel is hidden inside the shoe; I could be wrong, though. I always thought it was a stacked external heel, anything from 1-2 inches, usually tapering in a little.

    Cuban's...

    hiding in shoes now eh?

    Dodgy bstards!


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    #109
    pharmaton
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    Cyrus Tight Suspect wrote: »
    That's weird. I barely wore any make-up until very recently and I can only recall a couple of comments in all that time and neither was particularly negative. One was a man asking if I wore it because he couldn't tell (I have dark eyebrows/eyelashes and naturally dark pink lips) and another was my colleague, but this was working on a hotel reception where all the other girls were done up to the nines every day with fake nail etc. I'd find it very odd for people to comment on me not wearing make-up - those people sound horrible!
    I'm sure their intentions were pure, I think they just wanted me to "look good". what they don't seem to understand is that I don't value beauty the way they do, or at least I don't prize it as much. It seems to be central to them, like the most necessary part of being a woman is that you represent as attractive. In fact, to me it appears as though their entire lives revolve around it and their success dependent upon it.


    (I have very dark eyes and look like a heroin addict on a good day)


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    #110
    lukesmom
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    I look like the ugliest person on earth when I don't wear make up . I have terrible skin and without my daily routine of make up I'm disgusting. Really rotten so it's vital I wear it.

    Just out of interest I did a before and after shot this morning. I would post it here but can't as I'm on an iPhone and don't know how to. I'd love people to see how great a make up artist I have had to become.


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    #111
    czechlin
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    Tasden wrote: »
    Most men say they prefer women with no make up, when in actual fact most prefer the natural "no make up" make up look. Most of my male friends/boyfriends have commented on the fact I rarely wear make up. I wear make up pretty much every day. I just don't pile it on or make it obvious. The times when I haven't worn make up I get "are you sick, you look pale". Which I guess is more deceiving since they think I naturally look the way I look!

    I second that fully!


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    #112
    ScumLord
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    Femme_Fatale wrote: »
    Something that can make a person look better is not just a "fashion". By that logic you could say flattering clothes are just a fashion. It's been around in some shape or form for millennia, so your "at the moment" stuff is a fallacy.
    What makes someone beautiful is subject to change, what's considered flattering changes. Human society is very transient, what's popular today can seem horrid tomorrow. Humans attached meaning to clothing, you don't see people going around with puffed out pantaloons like the kings did back in the day, because the meaning has changed.


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    #113
    czechlin
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    I wouldn't call wearing a make-up a betrayal. If women like to cake it on well then that's pretty obvious. If women wear a light make up then difference is not so big - they still look like themselves. I usually wear a very light make up going to work. I'm quite pale, especially in winter and get the concerned "are you not feeling well" comments so I prefer to add a bit of healthy glow to the face. But there are days when I just don't feel like it at all and walk around with a "bare" face without a bother. On a night out I'd use a bit stronger eye make up and maybe a blush but I can't stand that paste feeling on my face when having too much of "stuff" applied.
    It's all part of grooming to me. I don't do it for other women or men, I do it for me.
    What I don't understand is how some men haven't seen their girlfriends without make-up. How do the girls do it? Do they sleep with the make up on? :confused:


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    #114
    lahalane
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    In an ideal world make-up and things like it wouldn't matter but it's not an ideal world. I wouldn't see it as a betrayal because you have to expect that generally a person will look less attractive when they are not made up.


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    #115
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    It absolutely perplexes me just what is available for women; fake hair extensions, fake eyelashes, fake eyebrows even, fake everything. It's just insane. For me, a lot of make up on a woman is just not attractive in the slightest. Some make up is fine, but not caked on.

    Hair extensions are something that absolutely petrifies me; can you imagine bringing someone home from a night out and midst throws of passion, pulling their hair (if they're into it), only to have a big clump of it come out of your hand!


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    #116
    lukesmom
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    It absolutely perplexes me just what is available for women; fake hair extensions, fake eyelashes, fake eyebrows even, fake everything. It's just insane. For me, a lot of make up on a woman is just not attractive in the slightest. Some make up is fine, but not caked on.

    Hair extensions are something that absolutely petrifies me; can you imagine bringing someone home from a night out and midst throws of passion, pulling their hair (if they're into it), only to have a big clump of it come out of your hand!

    You wouldn't say that if you saw me before and after.


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    #117
    Tony EH
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    I don't know you, but I think that's an awful way to feel about yourself.


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    #118
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    lukesmom wrote: »
    You wouldn't say that if you saw me before and after.

    Only one way to find out :pac:


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    #119
    Czarcasm
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    czechlin wrote: »
    I wouldn't call wearing a make-up a betrayal. If women like to cake it on well then that's pretty obvious. If women wear a light make up then difference is not so big - they still look like themselves. I usually wear a very light make up going to work. I'm quite pale, especially in winter and get the concerned "are you not feeling well" comments so I prefer to add a bit of healthy glow to the face. But there are days when I just don't feel like it at all and walk around with a "bare" face without a bother. On a night out I'd use a bit stronger eye make up and maybe a blush but I can't stand that paste feeling on my face when having too much of "stuff" applied.
    It's all part of grooming to me. I don't do it for other women or men, I do it for me.
    What I don't understand is how some men haven't seen their girlfriends without make-up. How do the girls do it? Do they sleep with the make up on? :confused:


    Have you seen the film "Bridesmaids"? I can't find the specific clip on YouTube, but basically in the morning while the guy is still asleep she gets up, touches up her make-up, and jumps back into bed, ready for when the guy wakes up :D


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    #120
    Honey-ec
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    Eeden wrote: »
    I don't think a Cuban heel is hidden inside the shoe; I could be wrong, though. I always thought it was a stacked external heel, anything from 1-2 inches, usually tapering in a little.

    It is. I suspect she was thinking of shoelifts.
    Czarcasm wrote: »
    Basically in the morning while the guy is still asleep she gets up, touches up her make-up, and jumps back into bed, ready for when the guy wakes up :D

    A friend's wife did this for well over the first year of their relationship. She has also never farted in front of him, six years in. They've two kids together, ffs!

    I don't know how anyone could be bothered with that malarkey. A guy is going to see me without my make-up on the first time we sleep together, cause I always take it off at night. If he recoils in horror A) he can sling his hook, and B) I'd take it as a sign that I've been wearing far too much slap. Thankfully, it's never happened.


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    #121
    Ihatecuddles-old
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    Right Ill go before and after.

    before http://imgur.com/leiXuQo

    after http://imgur.com/HqYkbzI


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