Scwarzenneger for US President

Wattle

Arnie being in charge of a superpower would worry me. What if he's out playing a round of golf and gets hit in the head by a golf ball. He gets all confused, thinks he's in one of his movies and unleashes Armageddon.

B.A._Baracus

If the law was changed I would see him winning the election.

MadsL

donegal__road wrote: »

Arnold's father, Gustav Schwarzenneger was in the Nazi party in Austria, he was also a member of Hitler's Brown-shirts.

He's a shoe-in for the next Nazi party election nomination then. Fecking nepotism.

AnonoBoy

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Did you read post 31?

Yes. Thanks for asking.

namloc1980 wrote: »

It would need a change to the constitution which requires the approval of two-thirds of each of the house of reps and the senate AND then the approval of 75% of states. Not gonna happen.

Still doesn't change the fact that the OP knew that being born outside of America currently prevents him from running for president.

Tipsy McSwagger

namloc1980 wrote: »

Pope Francis was in the Nazi party in Austria? Really???

Sorry meant the previous pope, the one who covered up all the child abuse.

namloc1980

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Still doesn't change the fact that the OP knew that being born outside of America currently prevents him from running for president.

And the Law changes he talks about is actually a constitutional amendment that ain't going to happen.

Nodin

jank wrote: »

That is all a nice story, did you read all that in Pravda?

Americans have a very high opinion of Reagan, .............

...which doesn't disprove any of what he said.

Why do you reference Pravda?

Skylinehead

Nodin wrote: »

...which doesn't disprove any of what he said.

Why do you reference Pravda?

Because if you disapprove of Reagan's policies, then you're obviously a dirty commie.

seamus

vgv wrote: »

The man has to dominate at everything he does,films,bodybuilding and now politics,typical German.Although how he treated his wife may have burned him with a lot of voters,especially female.

His attitude towards women was well known before his landslide election in California.

donegal__road wrote: »

Arnold's father, Gustav Schwarzenneger was in the Nazi party in Austria, he was also a member of Hitler's Brown-shirts.

And?

Donaldio

I am sure he would have the money to run and already being state govener must help and i imagine he might have some public suport and suport from elsewhere but honestly i cant see it happeing. He was on the Graham Norton show and came across as being a bit simple really not necessarily in a bad way but still i dont see him haveing the personal ambition for American presidency.

Hillary Clinton will run for it i think maybe she could get a feminist vote ? or not ?

Jesse Ventura might also run an ex Govenor
http://rt.com/shows/politicking-larry-king/jesse-ventura-larry-king-860/

Dyr

No foreign prezident? We's got us a godammned afreecan mooslim as president right now godammit

JupiterKid

Not. Gonna. Happen.

Duckworth_Luas

Why don't they just make Bill Clinton the president for life?

GobBass

As Grampa Simpson eloquently put it:

"This is the greatest country in the world. We've got a whole system set up to prevent people like you from ever becoming president."




























Quit your daydreaming, melonhead.

AngeGal

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

If the law was changed I would see him winning the election.

Hilliary Clinton would win a landslide against him.

Baked.noodle

Schwarzenegger vetoes bill on Nazi railroad legacies

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has vetoed legislation that would have required rail companies interested in working on the California high-speed train project to admit whether they transported people to concentration camps during World War II.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/10/schwarzenegger-vetoes-bill-that-would-have-targeted-french-high-speed-rail-firm-with-holocaust-past.html

the whole year inn

Wattle wrote: »

Arnie being in charge of a superpower would worry me. What if he's out playing a round of golf and gets hit in the head by a golf ball. He gets all confused, thinks he's in one of his movies and unleashes Armageddon.

He wasn't in Armageddon .

Bogota

jank wrote: »

That is all a nice story, did you read all that in Pravda?

Americans have a very high opinion of Reagan, all one has to do is look at polls the most recent one taken in 2013 where 69% of respondents said that they thought he was "outstanding" or an "above average" president, far higher than any president going back to Nixon. Forgive me that I would rather take their opinion, you know actual Americans, over some random person on an Irish website. European just love to pontificate their enlightenment and superiority over Americans. Americans normally don't give a crap in return. Massive inferiority complex at play id say!

Stats here by the way.
http://www.pollingreport.com/wh-hstry.htm

I don't think your following. I know Americans liked him hence why I said they are horribly misinformed.

I love America and a look through my post history would show this so I am not having a go. The only one who seems to have some sort of complex here is you. That was some rant you went on. Have a look at US debt pre Regan and post Regan and tell me he was a great president.

Carlos Orange

UCDVet wrote: »

I know some people are going to take this the wrong way but.....100% this.

When I was in the US - *nobody* talked about Europe. I mean, if they were planning a holiday they might say, 'Yeah, I think we might go to Paris'. If you said you were from Dublin, they might say, 'Oh yeah, I'm Irish'.

But they don't know much of anything about the rest of the world, and they just don't care. Royal Wedding? Sure, they might watch it, but they care about it less than Kim Kardashian's wedding.

A lot of Americans seem to think they are European. Going around claiming to be Irish for example.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Howard Stern is running in 2016 with Jesse Ventura as his running mate.

Good chance of getting an independent in, not a hardline Republican or a crusty Democrat who doesn't understand how the world actually works.

jank

Nodin wrote: »

...which doesn't disprove any of what he said.

Why do you reference Pravda?

Em, well my original post on this thread said that most American's would disagree with the statement put forward by Bogota that "He was the most damaging president ever". Which given the stats I put forward, it is true and has not been contested. Now I don't want to get into the argument on the legacy of Reagan as I am not going to change minds regardless of the truth.

What is clear is that the European left hate him more than the right revere him. It is interesting is that he is very popular the former Soviet states including Russia.

jank

Bogota wrote: »

I don't think your following. I know Americans liked him hence why I said they are horribly misinformed.

I love America and a look through my post history would show this so I am not having a go. The only one who seems to have some sort of complex here is you. That was some rant you went on. Have a look at US debt pre Regan and post Regan and tell me he was a great president.

Ah, so you are the authoritative voice on what Americans should think? Do you think that Americans cannot make up their own mind on how good or bad their Presidents are? To understand Regan and the 80's you need to look at Carter and the 70's but as I said I dont want to go into a big debate about this with you as I am not going to change your mind. I just find it funny that people think they are so enlightened on the subject, more so than actual Americans.

Anyway, if you are so concerned about debt then Obama must be 10 times worse so, right? How many Trillions has he racked up? What is good for the goose, is good for the gander.

LuckyLloyd

He'll never get the opportunity to run and I don't believe he is the type of individual who should hold the position. However, he is a true living embodiment of the American dream.

Dravokivich

Baked.noodle wrote: »

Schwarzenegger vetoes bill on Nazi railroad legacies


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/10/schwarzenegger-vetoes-bill-that-would-have-targeted-french-high-speed-rail-firm-with-holocaust-past.html

Are you saying this was a good or a bad thing?

Baked.noodle

Dravokivich wrote: »

Are you saying this was a good or a bad thing?

I didn't comment. The facts speak for themselves. :rolleyes:

Even if he qualifies on every possible level, he should be prevented from ever being President of the US on the basis that while he was Governor of California he referred to himself - more than once - as 'The Governator'.

Bogota

jank wrote: »

Ah, so you are the authoritative voice on what Americans should think? Do you think that Americans cannot make up their own mind on how good or bad their Presidents are? To understand Regan and the 80's you need to look at Carter and the 70's but as I said I dont want to go into a big debate about this with you as I am not going to change your mind. I just find it funny that people think they are so enlightened on the subject, more so than actual Americans.

Anyway, if you are so concerned about debt then Obama must be 10 times worse so, right? How many Trillions has he racked up? What is good for the goose, is good for the gander.

You're very simple. Because I criticized Regan you automatically assume I like Obama? So childish, sounds like you are the person stuck in your ways.

I never said I am enlightened, I said the facts speak for themselves. Most American's genuinely believe Reganomics were good for the economy and that Regan brought the Soviet Union to its knees. Thats what his legacy is and neither is true.

Are you telling me that
(1) Regan's economic policies were good?
and
(2) Regan was responsible for the end of the Soviet Union?

Please answer.

Bogota

Nodin wrote: »

...which doesn't disprove any of what he said.

Why do you reference Pravda?

Don't worry I don't think he can follow at all so might just be better to leave him spew

I've never even read Pravda, I've no idea why he thinks I get my information from it

jank

Bogota wrote: »

I never said I am enlightened, I said the facts speak for themselves. Most American's genuinely believe Reganomics were good for the economy and that Regan brought the Soviet Union to its knees. Thats what his legacy is and neither is true.

Opinions are not facts. You have provided or posted none, only opinions

Bogota wrote: »

Are you telling me that
(1) Regan's economic policies were good?
and
(2) Regan was responsible for the end of the Soviet Union?

Please answer.

If you want to discuss this, open a thread in the US Politics forum and I will gladly discuss it as AH is not the place for it.

bnt

The relevant bit of the US Constitution isn't 100% clear on whether the President must be born in the USA. Here's the actual text:

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

With all those commas, it is definitely open to interpretation. Wikipedia has a lot more on the "natural-born citizen" clause, here. There was an oft-cited court case (Lynch v. Clarke) it which the judge clearly stated that it anyone born in the USA was a natural-born citizen, regardless of parentage, and could therefore (in theory) become President. But he didn't state the converse, excluding anyone from the job who was not a natural-born citizen.

So the rules could be changed or clarified by the Supreme Court if required. And Schwarzenegger is not the only guy who might benefit: Republican "Tea Party" Senator Ted Cruz is also considering a Presidential run in 2016 - and he was born in Calgary in Canada.

Nodin

jank wrote: »

Em, well my original post on this thread said that most American's would disagree with the statement put forward by Bogota that "He was the most damaging president ever". Which given the stats I put forward, it is true and has not been contested. Now I don't want to get into the argument on the legacy of Reagan as I am not going to change minds regardless of the truth.

What is clear is that the European left hate him more than the right revere him. It is interesting is that he is very popular the former Soviet states including Russia.

And as I pointed out, them thinking he was the dogs bollocks and him being it are not the same thing.

clairefontaine

Bullseye wrote: »

It has been revealed that Arnold Schwarzenneger is attempting to have the relevant laws changed so that he can run for president in 2016. Do you think he'd make a good president? I think he would.

No.

The laws should not be changed.

And no he would not make a good president.

No no no no no no!

jank

Nodin wrote: »

And as I pointed out, them thinking he was the dogs bollocks and him being it are not the same thing.

Yes I am well aware of that. The difference is that it is factually correct that many Americans admire him as being a good president as put I forward by using polling evidence. The latter is an opinion, which is different. As I said opinion are not facts. If you want to debate the latter then you know what forum to go to.