Who in your opinion is the best player in the premiership right now?

eagle eye

Andersonisgod wrote: »

The thing is though that whether or not he has been better than Ramsey is debatable. Better in terms of stats so far? No. Better in terms of performance? Personally I think so. I realise the comment above me will make this next comment seem ridiculous but you do have to take into account his escapades with Brazil over the summer.

Look you just have to take a step back sometimes and take bias out of the equation.

Its clear to everybody here that you are always going to pick a Barca player over any other team or a Chelsea player when Barca are not in the equation and of course to try and sound reasonable you are going to pick an ex-Barca player as the next best.

Lets try this another way for you, who is the best non-Barca, non-Chelsea and never was with Barca/Chelsea player in the Premier League right now?

seligehgit

Ozil without doubt,gutted we did not buy him during the summer.Fair play to Whinger and the Gooners.

Oranage2

On form - Ramsey
Actual talent - Ozil

Talib Fiasco

This isn't even close...Ozil...with Aguero second. Aguero is the best forward in the EPL. Not the best goal scorer but Aguero is the most valuable forward in the league by a mile. He's also on fire with goals atm which is even greater proof.

rob316

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

This isn't even close...Ozil...with Aguero second. Aguero is the best forward in the EP. Not the best goal scorer but Aguero is the most valuable forward in the league by a mile. He's also on fire with goals atm which is even greater proof.

Suarez is the best forward in the league, the things he does are just jawdropping. Been a liverpool supporter im probably bias though.:D

Talib Fiasco

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

This isn't even close...Ozil...with Aguero second. Aguero is the best forward in the EPL. Not the best goal scorer but Aguero is the most valuable forward in the league by a mile. He's also on fire with goals atm which is even greater proof.

mike65

Suarez has only scored 6 goals in four games

Talib Fiasco

Aguero has 5 in 3. Before today his record is better than Suarez's. Suarez is a better goal scorer sure, but he's not a better all round player.

mewe

After today if we're talkin about right now, it has to be Suarez.

Skylinehead

mewe wrote: »

After today if we're talkin about right now, it has to be Suarez.

Right now as in the last 6 hours?

He is a beast though, I'd rate him about the same as Aguero. Similar goal records too. Van Persie is a better scorer again, but with less ability on the ball. And then there's Ozil, who's a completely different kind of player but is sublime too. In short, I can't actually say who's the best at the moment.

mewe

Skylinehead wrote: »

Right now as in the last 6 hours?

He is a beast though, I'd rate him about the same as Aguero. Similar goal records too. Van Persie is a better scorer again, but with less ability on the ball. And then there's Ozil, who's a completely different kind of player but is sublime too. In short, I can't actually say who's the best at the moment.

My favourite out of those players is Ozil but just on current form and the impact he's havin in games i'd say Suarez pips it.

That_Guy

Between Ramsey and Suarez right now. Both are huge factors in where their respective teams are lying in the league.

Will I Amnt

Ooooh, I can't wait for next week. Who's it going to be then?
Maybe Charlie Adam will get a hat trick, you should add him to the poll.

smileyj1987

As Individual Talents it's between Suarez and Ozil right now .

The_Kew_Tour

Suarez as things stand. Super player at minute

richierichballs

he had a great game yesterday.

prettyboy81

Suarez followed by Aguero then Ozil, my top 3.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

Ozil. Best in the world in his position and, as has been said so many times before, an absolute clanger by Real letting him go for half of Bale's price.

Seaneh

Ancelotti's face when the Real told him they were selling Higuian and Ozil and sighing Bale.

gosplan

Right now??

Fabio Borini!!

Shanotheslayer

Suariddge as my mate likes to call them:D

Morzadec

THFC wrote: »

Ozil. Best in the world in his position and, as has been said so many times before, an absolute clanger by Real letting him go for half of Bale's price.

Do you think he's better than Iniesta? Iniesta just shades it imo

JPA

Morzadec wrote: »

Do you think he's better than Iniesta? Iniesta just shades it imo

Ozil is a number 10, I don't think he's comparable to Iniesta exactly.

Rayne Wooney

Aguero takes the title off Borini with a thunderbolt beating Cech from an outrageous angle with his left foot.

Best player in the league currently

Rayne Wooney

Morzadec wrote: »

Do you think he's better than Iniesta? Iniesta just shades it imo

It's not the same position in fairness.

IvySlayer

Aguero is a better finisher, Suarez is a better dribbler, tough to choose

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

Morzadec wrote: »

Do you think he's better than Iniesta? Iniesta just shades it imo

As was stated above, they play different positions. Iniesta is more of a midfielder - a very attacking midfielder at that, whereas Ozil plays the number 10 role exclusively.

Torres the current leader

Hank Scorpio

rarnes1 wrote: »

Torres the current leader

all hail the king :pac:

Too Tough To Die

1 - Suarez (hurts to say it)
2 - Rooney (y'all must've forgot)
3 - Ozil

niallo27

I don't see how Ozil is suddenly the best player the premiership. He will probably fade like most before him. If this poll was done last year Hazard would be number 1. Wilshire was completely overrated not so long ago. Suarez is miles ahead for me.

greendom

niallo27 wrote: »

I don't see how Ozil is suddenly the best player the premiership. He will probably fade like most before him. If this poll was done last year Hazard would be number 1. Wilshire was completely overrated not so long ago. Suarez is miles ahead for me.

What makes you think that Ozil will "fade" ?

Alfred Borden

niallo27 wrote: »

I don't see how Ozil is suddenly the best player the premiership. He will probably fade like most before him. If this poll was done last year Hazard would be number 1. Wilshire was completely overrated not so long ago. Suarez is miles ahead for me.

seems to be a bit of an attack on arsenal players, ozil is one of the worlds best players, explain how he will fade?

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

niallo27 wrote: »

I don't see how Ozil is suddenly the best player the premiership. He will probably fade like most before him. If this poll was done last year Hazard would be number 1. Wilshire was completely overrated not so long ago. Suarez is miles ahead for me.

Ozil is suddenly the best player in the PL because he is suddenly in the PL:P

If it was done last year I'd have had Mata as the best player. Ozil was, for the past 2 seasons if not longer, one of the best players in the world. Should be no surprise that many people see him as the best in the PL. He's also only just turned 25, and I'd be very surprised, as I'm sure many people would be, if he were to fade. He's a different gravy.

niallo27

greendom wrote: »

What makes you think that Ozil will "fade" ?

He might not, why the Madrid get rid of him. I just seem being another hazard. Not saying he won't be a good player for arsenal just don't think he will reach the levels of Suarez and Van Persie

Rayne Wooney

Aguero and Suarez are pretty much on par for me, both make things happen from nothing. RVP is a different type of player but still class. Then you have Ozil, Mata and other players like that as well. You could have Rooney as well when he's on form.

If all of them are on top form it's impossible to pick who's the outright best, but people will just pick the player from their club.

EuropeanSon

niallo27 wrote: »

I don't see how Ozil is suddenly the best player the premiership. He will probably fade like most before him. If this poll was done last year Hazard would be number 1. Wilshire was completely overrated not so long ago. Suarez is miles ahead for me.

He's suddenly the best player in the Premier League, because suddenly, he's in the Premier League. Edit: THFC got there first

Before, he was just another one of several La Liga players who were better than any of the Premier League's players.

Rayne Wooney

niallo27 wrote: »

He might not, why the Madrid get rid of him. I just seem being another hazard. Not saying he won't be a good player for arsenal just don't think he will reach the levels of Suarez and Van Persie

Why did Madrid get rid of him? Seriously?

You can't think in a logical way when it comes to what Madrid do, they sold probably the best player in the world in his position and replaced him with a one season wonder for double the price.

EuropeanSon

niallo27 wrote: »

He might not, why the Madrid get rid of him. I just seem being another hazard. Not saying he won't be a good player for arsenal just don't think he will reach the levels of Suarez and Van Persie

The same reason they paid €100,000,000 for Bale. Perez doesn't have a ****ing clue.

The_Kew_Tour

Suarez has been devastating though this year when he has played.

Top 10 player in the world at the moment imo.

niallo27

Time will tell. I said the same in the hazard and Wilshire threads and got the same reaction.

AdamD

niallo27 wrote: »

Time will tell. I said the same in the hazard and Wilshire threads and got the same reaction.

God forbid 2 youngsters fade a little...

You not seeing the flaw in your logic comparing Hazard (1st season in the league) and Wilshere (2 years of injuries) fading, to Ozil who was one of the best players in la liga for years before making his move.

Context is key, you seem to ignore it.

EuropeanSon

niallo27 wrote: »

Time will tell. I said the same in the hazard and Wilshire threads and got the same reaction.

Hazard and Wilshere hadn't already been star players both for one of the top 4 International teams in the world and for one of the top 4 club sides in the world, for 3/4 years leading the assist charts of world football and being described by many as the best player in his position in the world.

Hazard and Wilshere had some aspect of them that was uncertain, or unproven (if indeed your unsubstantiated claims are true). Ozil has nothing to prove, as anything you could ask for from someone in his role, he has already done.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

niallo27 wrote: »

Time will tell. I said the same in the hazard and Wilshire threads and got the same reaction.

How much of Ozil had you seen prior to his arrival in the PL? I find it baffling that you are comparing him to Hazard and Wilshere.

Talib Fiasco

Rooney? Seriously? Maybe over the last 5 years yeah he's up there, but it seems this is based off current form and last season in some cases...so Rooney? Ahead of Aguero, Van Persie and even Sturridge? The lad is full of talent but he hasn't been anywere near consistent as the others.

I think Aguero proved again today why he's well up there with the best in the league. Terrific talent and attitude every game, never hides and always an influence.

gosplan

Joe Hart

Liam O

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Rooney? Seriously? Maybe over the last 5 years yeah he's up there, but it seems this is based off current form and last season in some cases...so Rooney? Ahead of Aguero, Van Persie and even Sturridge? The lad is full of talent but he hasn't been anywere near consistent as the others.

I think Aguero proved again today why he's well up there with the best in the league. Terrific talent and attitude every game, never hides and always an influence.

Rooney and Aguero played similar minutes last season, both got 12 goals but Rooney got 10 assists to Aguero's 3. Rooney single handedly brought United back into the game yesterday. People seem to just think because he didn't score 30 goals last season he was inconsistent when he missed huge parts of the season through injury. When he gets a consistent, injury free run of games his stats speak for themselves and don't even tell the whole story of him being the creative hub of the team. He hasn't found his form yet this season but still has a 1 in 2 record in the league. For someone who's been "inconsistent" they are some numbers.

Hulk Hands

niallo27 wrote: »

I don't see how Ozil is suddenly the best player the premiership. He will probably fade like most before him. If this poll was done last year Hazard would be number 1. Wilshire was completely overrated not so long ago. Suarez is miles ahead for me.

Surely on that basis if we're not overestimating the start to the season, then Van Persie is still ahead? On the basis that his last two seasons have both been better than Suarez's, one by a massive margin.

niallo27

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Surely on that basis if we're not overestimating the start to the season, then Van Persie is still ahead? On the basis that his last two seasons have both been better than Suarez's, one by a massive margin.

You could argue he was better than Suarez last season, you would be wrong, but you could argue it if you want.

EuropeanSon

Van Persie was definitely better last year. He basically won the league for utd, and had no bitey racist incidents whatsoever.