Help picking a bangeromics car

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Toyotafanboi wrote: »

very convenient, a lot of people seem to think it looks quite ungainly though.

The liftback's dont look too stylish at all, but put the seats down and they are like vans inside - i have a carina e with the liftback and that gives it acres of space

steven087

dgt wrote: »

Pretty much, the TU wouldn't burn as much oil as the toyota 1.4 (unless it was addressed to) but at the same time 160k miles on that would have me asking that price to have a good few hundred knocked off. Was the airbag ECU replaced or just a cheapo micro-controller kit wired into the airbag light? Its a very common PSA fault, connectors under the seats usually at fault

When you can buy an XUD for not much more why would you get that? Even if it's in meridian spec....

It certainly looks clean but tread with lots of caution

Will she said the part cost 200 to fix the airbag as it's the dearest thing she has ever put in she said. I do love the look inside imo anshe seems a very genuine women that's selling it.
As long as it wouldn't start breaking down cost me money I would go with it. Sort of suits my needs the corrola I like too but gonna cost me more money that I haven't got at the minute as my insurance want deposit of 400 as well

JohnBoy26

dgt wrote: »

The pug is too expensive, I'd want it for about €500 and even then I'd still be questioning whether to buy or not... More room in the corolla as they're either liftbacks or saloons suggested

What's the story with rust on those corollas? A lot of pugs in the 90s weren't rust protected properly and as a result crumble in odd places that no one sees....

Rust protection is pretty good on them tbh. I've seen very few rusty ones. Most of the rusty ones i've seen had previous repair work carried out in that area. E.g I've seen one with a rusty bonnet and panel(the one that goes around the grill and lights). Turns out who ever repaired it used cheap aftermarket panels. This model Corolla actually seems to be better protected underneath than it's successor in my experience.


As for the pug. The area "no one sees" is not at the rear underneath by any chance?

steven087

Does the 00 corrola both have the bug eye and face lift model in that year. Is the bug have diff engine

bazz26

Nice looking 3dr Ford Focus here:


http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/03-ford-focus-1-4-petrol-3-doors-zetec/5816626

Kaiser D

I was going to suggest a Focus. I'm not sure how much insurance will differ by though, and insurance is one of OPs main prioritys.
Certainly more refined than a Corolla.

steven087

Kaiser D wrote: »

I was going to suggest a Focus. I'm not sure how much insurance will differ by though, and insurance is one of OPs main prioritys.
Certainly more refined than a Corolla.

Do you no if the corrola has the bug eyes is that the 1.3 engine or could it be vvti 1.4

steven087

All had bad experience with focus and friend had too had on petrol 2 the 1.6 better but can't get insured

JohnBoy26

steven087 wrote: »

Does the 00 corrola both have the bug eye and face lift model in that year. Is the bug have diff engine

Very few 00 bug eye models out there, most 00's were facelift models.

The bug eye did have a different (more robust) engine than the vvti unit in the facelift.

bazz26

Bug eye Corolla never had the VVTi engine.

JohnBoy26

Kaiser D wrote: »

I was going to suggest a Focus. I'm not sure how much insurance will differ by though, and insurance is one of OPs main prioritys.
Certainly more refined than a Corolla.

The focus is not more refined than a Corolla. The Corolla has better ride quality and is smoother. The focus is sharper and handles better but as a result is not as refined or as comfortable.

steven087

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Very few 00 bug eye models out there, most 00's were facelift models.

The bug eye did have a different (more robust) engine than the vvti unit in the facelift.

Ok cause was just thinking that 00 corrola in my local garage for 1250 is bug eye so that has the older better engine ya?

JohnBoy26

steven087 wrote: »

Ok cause was just thinking that 00 corrola in my local garage for 1250 is bug eye so that has the older better engine ya?

Yup

steven087

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Yup

Ok gets me thinking even more about that one then seen as people saying the 1.3 great cars

bazz26

Bug eye was 1.3 litre EFi Facelifted non bug eye was 1.4 litre VVTi.

colm_mcm

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

The focus is not more refined than a Corolla. The Corolla has better ride quality and is smoother. The focus is sharper and handles better but as a result is not as refined or as comfortable.

Refined means quieter usually. The focus is a lot quieter than the corolla to be fair.
NVH wasn't really an issue in 1992, the 97 onwards model was heavily based on the older model and wasn't the leap forward that the focus was compared to the escort (not that the corolla was as bad as that!)

steven087

Well anyway I need a car before next weekend so busy week ahead have to look at the pug in the next day or two
It's really between that and the corrola
If she takes 600 I be happy with that for it

JohnBoy26

colm_mcm wrote: »

Refined means quieter usually. The focus is a lot quieter than the corolla to be fair.
NVH wasn't really an issue in 1992, the 97 onwards model was heavily based on the older model and wasn't the leap forward that the focus was compared to the escort (not that the corolla was as bad as that!)

Maybe the focus is quieter. if it is it isn't by much. I have owned a 99 Corolla and have driven a relatives 00 Focus ghia 1.6 numerous times. I never felt it was quieter than the Corolla, I really didn't!. It was sharper and handled better than the Corolla mind, but wasn't as comfortable.

Tbh the focus needed to be a huge leap forward from the escort . Toyota on the other hand could of built the Corolla on a whole new platform but didn't really have anywhere near the gap to fill as ford did.

Wicklowandy

I have enormous respect, and would personally purchase that model corolla over a similar vintage focus.

But I could never claim that the corolla rode better, or was more refined than the focus, and I've drove plenty of them, even when they were brand spanking new.

Have you only drove your relatives 1.6 ghia (probably a saloon)?

Wicklowandy

Yeah the pre 95 escort really was a pig, but by the time it died in 98, as much as it pains me to admit, it had been face lifted into a car that was the match comfort wise and dynamically of the corolla.

Once had a 1991 Escort 1.8 diesel, now that was a pig:)

steven087

Anyone know what's the meridian spec difference in 99 pug 306 than if it wasn't meridian

Wicklowandy

Main difference is the half leather, basic ones can be basic tho

steven087

Wicklowandy wrote: »

Main difference is the half leather, basic ones can be basic tho

Do they have the rain sensors

steven087

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/peugeot-306-1-4-litre-petrol/5703453
Found this one low mileage just tested in a garage in Dublin

Toyotafanboi

steven087 wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/peugeot-306-1-4-litre-petrol/5703453
Found this one low mileage just tested in a garage in Dublin

i'm not gone on them as a corolla alternative. i just can't see them wearing as well as the toyota, if it didn't have half leather you wouldn't look twice imo.
also when buying in this price range, you are from the west and the car is in the east so when you factor in a tank of fuel or a cross country bus ticket and lunch for you and a friend it could easily wind up €100-€150 more expensive than a local car.

have you looked at the Astra G or mk1 Focus?

edit : as 306's go, its probably one of the best spec'd, not bad looking etc.

Toyotafanboi

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/00-corolla-1-4/5644589

looks this this corollas price is growing! went up €150 overnight!

colm_mcm

steven087 wrote: »

Anyone know what's the meridian spec difference in 99 pug 306 than if it wasn't meridian

Half leather, fogs, silver bits inside,cd, think it has rear electric windows
Think it had upgraded bumpers or something too. They were a run out model
My cousins one had air conditioning