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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,377 Mod ✭✭✭✭pgibbo


    Kurt Godel wrote: »
    Yes, I set the watch to beep every 1:40. If I didn't have the watch I'd have been pacing off the pool clock- not sure what you mean by an untrue TT if paced? Is it usual to do TT's blind to any clock?

    Given there's no pool clock in OW, how do you know you have your pacing dialled in for a TT if you're looking at a clock? That's what I was getting at. That being said you could say you're teaching yourself to pace by the method you did the TT. I was just curious what your thoughts were


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭Kurt Godel


    pgibbo wrote: »
    Given there's no pool clock in OW, how do you know you have your pacing dialled in for a TT if you're looking at a clock? That's what I was getting at. That being said you could say you're teaching yourself to pace by the method you did the TT. I was just curious what your thoughts were

    Ah, I get you know. Yep, get a feel for pace/effort in the pool and that somewhat translates to OW (without the watch). Although there are way to many variables for it to be an exact science, 1:38/100m pace today would be around 1:30/100m effort in smooth OW, with a suit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭Kurt Godel


    Fri PM 6.42k @ 4:53 av

    This was a scheduled 40 min run, 15 easy, 10 steady, 10 mod, 5 easy; but I was pushed for daylight so took some time from the initial plod.

    Splits were: 6:16, 4:33, 4:31, 4:39, 4:26, 4:13; for the 6k. I was running well towards the end. I shouldn't feel this good after an honest swim TT.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭Kurt Godel


    Sat Hilly run 19.28km @ 5:39/km av (400m elevation gain)

    Up around the long Annagh Hill loop again, kept the pace easy, enjoyable way to spend the evening. Its getting dark now, at 16:15!


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Kurt Godel wrote: »
    Sat Hilly run 19.28km @ 5:39/km av (400m elevation gain)

    Up around the long Annagh Hill loop again, kept the pace easy, enjoyable way to spend the evening. Its getting dark now, at 16:15!

    Solstice tomorrow. Then every day gets longer again!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭Kurt Godel


    Oryx wrote: »
    Solstice tomorrow. Then every day gets longer again!

    I had toyed with the idea of an early dawn run up a hill to see the sunrise- but I've a 9am club bike to get to. Not enough hours in the day (literally!)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭Kurt Godel


    Sun 80.78k in 3:31

    Aughrim-Clash-Woodenbridge-Arklow-Gorey-Gap-home

    Met up with a clubmate who was going for a swim in Arklow, so we shared the first 40k or so at a decent enough clip, before we spit at Arklow. I continued along the old N11 towards Gorey, into a strong headwind. My speed was dropping along here, I figured it was the headwind, but by the time I hit Gorey it was obvious I'd punctured. Brand new Gatorskins on both wheels, so with a false sense of security I had set out without pump or tubes. The remaining 20k were slow, as I battled bad roads and an ever decreasing tyre pressure. Lesson learned.

    PM 5.65 @ 5:50 pace

    Tired getting out there, freshened up a bit after the first km.


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Its a natural law that if you go out without repair kit you WILL puncture. Fair play on slogging home like that. Tough day out there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭Kurt Godel


    Week 11 Summary|Session|Comment

    Monday|5.83k run @ 5:19/km av; 2,300 Masters swim |Not a good swim
    Tuesday|1,750m swim; 5.86k easy run|Better swim
    Wednesday|5.78k run @ 5:33/km av; 3,000m Masters swim|
    Thursday|53min bike machine thing, 30min treadmill|Only time available was in the gym
    Friday|2,500m swim; 6.27km in 4:51av|Run 5:40, 5:06, 4:30, 4:21, 4:16, 4:20
    Saturday|18.1k run @ 5:33/km average|Hilly mucky run
    Sunday|5.2k easy run|Had to attend a swim gala, missed the long bike
    Week 11 km totals|Swim 9.9k Bike 25k Run 52.04k|Poor bike week. 9:40 hrs altogether.
    This block|Swim 83.33k Bike 1027.06k Run 298.92k



    Week 12 Summary|Session|Comment

    Monday|3,000m swim; 5.56k easy run @ 5:25/km av|10*200 in 3:12- 3:22
    Tuesday|1:10 turbo; 5.87 run @ 5:07/km av|Hard turbo
    Wednesday|2,200m swim; 5.65k @ 5:41/km pace run|10x100sw best even effort on 2 (1:22, 1:25, 1:25, 1:27, 1:30, 1:31, 1:33, 1:32, 1:33, 1:29)
    Thursday|1 hour easy turbo; 5.82km jog @ 6min/km av|New PM! A whopping 140W average!
    Friday|2,000m swim; 6.42k @ 4:53 av|1km swim TT 16:29. Run 6:16, 4:33, 4:31, 4:39, 4:26, 4:13; for the 6k
    Saturday|Hilly run 19.28km @ 5:39/km av (400m elevation gain)|Annagh Hill
    Sunday|80.78k in 3:31; 5.65k @ 5:50/km|First 40k nice clip with Stephen. Punctured during second half, had to limp home on a flat
    Week 12 km totals|Swim 7k Bike 135.78k Run 54.28k|Tough swim week. 13 hrs altogether.
    This block|Swim 90.33k Bike 1162.84k Run 353.2k


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭Kurt Godel


    Week 13 Summary|Session|Comment

    Monday| 5.58k easy run @ 5:54/km av|
    Tuesday|5k easy run @ 6:45/km av|Hilly run with my son. He was full of energy, since the pool is shut for the week.
    Wednesday|5.19k easy run @ 5:47/km av|
    Thursday|6.27k Xmas run @ 4:48/km av|Frosty, magic run
    Friday|7.82 run @ 4:59/km av; 6.38k run|Club run to the Dying Cow, pints and chat, twilight run back home half cut over fields and forest
    Saturday|5.73k easy run @ 5:29/km av; 2hr easy turbo|129W average
    Sunday|14.14k easy run @ 5:18/km av|A couple of faster km's at halfway for fun, 4:20, 4:22
    Week 13 km totals|Swim 0k Bike 50k Run 56.11k|Easy week, pool shut. 7:23 hrs altogether.
    This block|Swim 90.33k Bike 1212.84k Run 409.31k


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭Kurt Godel


    Mon 6.45k run @ 4:40 av pace

    I don't know where this run came from... last night I opened a second bottle of wine, and a second tin of Pringles with it... pigged out big time. Went to bed coughing- usually I pig out on crisps when a cold is coming on. I woke with a hangover at 7am, did some office work while contemplating ditching the run streak. In the end I reluctantly pulled on the gear, and figured I'd just plod along for my slowest 30 minutes yet.

    The first km was 5:34, quicker than I had anticipated, and the next was 5:10. I was running well, felt strong, a lot stronger than I had any right to be, so started to put the foot down. 4:28, 4:38, 4:07, 4:16... Thats a lot faster than I've been running recently. Maybe the frozen morning had something to do with it, maybe the carbs boost from the night before; who knows? Main thing is its done and I feel 100% better now. Time to prepare for tonights drinks...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭Kurt Godel


    Mon PM 2,300 swim

    200sw,200p,50k
    4x50 des 1-4 on 50 (44,46,45,46)
    14x100 alt fast/easy on 1:50 (fast 1:xx: xx={33,38,38,39,40,42,41})
    4x50 choice easy swim

    First time back at the pool in a while, and I was swimming through treacle. C'est la vie.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭Kurt Godel


    Tue 5.66km run @ 5.27/km av

    Wed 90 mins easy turbo 130W av, 5.66km run @ 5.29/km av

    So, the Dec runstreak completed, which leaves me at my fittest New Years start in years. Looking forward to 2015, I have some very large goals set for this year, mainly professional and acedemic goals, but Tri will be a good focus to offset work-related stress. I just about got over the 500km annual marker for swimming, and I'm anticipating good times in the water over the next few months. Best wishes to everyone for 2015.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭Kurt Godel


    Thurs Rest day

    Fri 3,000m swim; 45 mins turbo

    400sw easy
    2x200p steady with 15s
    4x100sw mod with 15s
    8x50 alt fast/easy
    4x100p mod with 15s
    2x200sw steady with 15s
    200sw easy
    100m sailboat
    300m hypoxic as 25m take n breaths:nE{3,2,1,0,0,1,2,3}

    I didn't bring the watch, just swam by feel. Peter K mentioned elsewhere that I am prone to overthinking swimming, and I have been lately. Swam by feel for these, with a half an eye on the clock. A little slower than usual, but better feel for the water. The hypoxic were good.

    Turbo:
    5 easy
    4x(1 HC, 30sec easy)
    4x(30sec build, 30sec easy)
    5x(2 ON, 2 OFF)
    5 easy
    (on == hard)

    This was tough enough. Average 186W, but the 20 mins on/off were average 227W, which I think is a fair reflection of the work put in. The PM seems to tally with the sweatometer, although I'm only gauging the Wattages against each other- comparing them to other peoples logs they seem high.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    Kurt Godel wrote: »
    The PM seems to tally with the sweatometer, although I'm only gauging the Wattages against each other- comparing them to other peoples logs they seem high.

    what do you think seems high kurt, the wattages?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭Kurt Godel


    mossym wrote: »
    what do you think seems high kurt, the wattages?

    Yeah, the watts, although I don't know much about them. Today's five two-minute bursts were in the mid 300's with peaks in the 400's. Coming from 130 meaning easy, I'm not sure how to read them, if effort increases linearly or curved. Also unsure what it means to calibrate At each session start. But I'm content to compare like with like over the next few months, and build up a picture from continued data as it goes on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭Kurt Godel


    Sat 2:30 easy turbo @ 108W av

    Boring but all I could do today.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭Kurt Godel


    Sun 16.71km run @ 5:02/km average

    Hilly run, 284m elevation. Dodgy stomach till half way, but thats why I run in forests. Felt better after. Picked it up after an hour, last 5.25km were 4:48, 4:29, 4:33, 4:24, 4:08, (3:50)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭Kurt Godel


    Week 14 Summary|Session|Comment

    Monday| 6.45k run @ 4:40 av pace; 2,300m swim|run felt great, swim not so much
    Tuesday|5.66km run @ 5.27/km av|
    Wednesday|90 mins easy turbo 130W av; 5.66km run @ 5.29/km av|
    Thursday|Rest day|
    Friday|3,000m swim; 45 mins turbo|Very hard turbo, 5*(2on, 2off)
    Saturday|2:30 easy turbo @ 108W av|Easy spinning
    Sunday|16.71km run @ 5:02/km average|Felt good, picked up the pace towards the end
    Week 14 km totals|Swim 5.3k Bike 120k Run 34.50k|Good run week. 9:25 hrs altogether.
    This block|Swim 95.63k Bike 1332.84k Run 443.81k


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭Kurt Godel


    Mon 3,000m swim

    150sw,150p,100k
    4x50 as 25 fist, 25 fast + 15s
    4x50 des 1-4 on 60
    8x(150 cruise into 50 fast + 20sec)
    4x50 fast on 50
    100m pb easy
    200m hypoxic (25m B 3,2,1,0,0,1,2,3)

    Still fighting the water. I slowed down the "cruise" speed to ensure decent form, as further progress will need to come from better form.

    Mon PM 6km run @ 5min/km av


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭career move


    How do you get all the way across the pool holding your breath :eek:

    Are you sure you don't take a sneaky one? Just one :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭Kurt Godel


    How do you get all the way across the pool holding your breath :eek:

    Are you sure you don't take a sneaky one? Just one :D

    When I first tried this I couldn't make it. But its a very useful guide in efficiency and form- you slow right down, relax, make the most out of your stroke, and exhale very slowly. Since the head is taken out of the equation you can find yourself swimming with the best form ever. Trick is to transfer that form to BE 3 :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,888 ✭✭✭Dory Dory


    Hi Kurt. I'm breaking out my Speedo tomorrow. Just thought you should know. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭Kurt Godel


    Tue 2,900m pool; 10.91k run @ 4:46min/km av

    100sw,100p,100k
    6x50 on 60 as des 1-3, fast 4-6
    3x300p steady on 5:20
    6x100sw mod on 1:50
    6x50 alt fast/easy on 60
    100k,200p,200sw

    Again, the times weren't anything to get excited about, but I've told to slow down and concentrate on form, rather than speeding up + smashing through the water. Need to get form and speed together, and get it to a level that can be maintained for 20 mins or so.

    Run:
    10 easy
    5x(30sec build, 30sec easy)
    30 minute TT
    5 easy

    The TT was focus, and I decided to do it on the track at Arklow, so it can be repeatable. Its been a few years since I was here, a good enough facility to have (grit 400m). Felt a little strange doing it at night, only one section of the track was lit up so I only got to use the Garmin at lap times. I'm a fairly decent pacer, as each of the 17.7 laps was between 1:42-1:44 splits. It was manageable, but a good bit faster than recent runs, about 4:17/km for the 7,000m in 30 mins.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭Kurt Godel


    Wed 1 hour easy turbo; 2,100m easy swim

    The turbo was 156W average.

    Swim was a bonus, I was itching to get in the water all day and so hit it for 40 mins this evening. Used the pb throughout, and the agility and pt paddles sporadically. Focussed on just swimming well, feeling the water, and it was a very enjoyable way to spend 40 minutes. 1:51/100m av.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭Kurt Godel


    Thurs 45 min turbo

    5 easy
    4x(1 HC, 30sec easy)
    4x(30sec build, 30sec easy)
    10x(1 ON, 1 OFF)
    10 easy
    (on == hard)

    This was pretty hard, 177W av, 213W av over 20 mins, 433W max. I find the PM useful when doing them, purely because you know the results can be quantified afterwards.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,583 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    Kurt Godel wrote: »
    Thurs 45 min turbo

    5 easy
    4x(1 HC, 30sec easy)
    4x(30sec build, 30sec easy)
    10x(1 ON, 1 OFF)
    10 easy
    (on == hard)

    This was pretty hard, 177W av, 213W av over 20 mins, 433W max. I find the PM useful when doing them, purely because you know the results can be quantified afterwards.

    The really interesting information here would be the AP for the 1 ONs and the HR for them too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭Kurt Godel


    tunney wrote: »
    The really interesting information here would be the AP for the 1 ONs and the HR for them too.

    HR max during the ON's 150-161. More useful to read than my old sweatometer, anyway.

    Edit- I'll do laps next time, easier to read still.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭Kurt Godel


    Thurs PM 6.01k easy run @ 5:35/km av; 2,300m swim

    Run was a leg-loosner around Arklow, felt a bit stiff before; felt great after. My running form is a lot more erect, track running can help with that.

    Pool:
    400 wu
    200 drills

    Main set
    (Free kick)
    1x100 20s rest
    1x75 15s rest
    1x50 10s rest
    1x25 20s rest
    (Free pull buoy)
    1x100 B.E.3 20s rest
    1x75 B.E.4 15s rest
    1x50 B.E.5 10s rest
    1x25 B.E.6 20s rest
    (Free)
    1x100 B.E.3 20s rest
    1x75 B.E.4 15s rest
    1x50 B.E.5 10s rest
    1x25 B.E.6 20s rest
    ***Repeat twice***
    200 choice swim down

    Kicking is very hard- I'll have to work on this over the next while. Otherwise form was decent.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,682 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Those B.E.6 lengths gotta hurt towards the end!


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