Child removed from Roma gypsies-This time in DUBLIN *Mod Warning Post #1*

Eight Ball

seamus wrote: »

Just the start of it in reality. I suspect we're about to discover major child trafficking routes all across Europe.

Yeap. This sh1t has been ignored for a long time and its about time to get real about the problem.

dan1895

SpaceTime wrote: »

Front page on Sky now :

http://news.sky.com/story/1158088/ireland-blonde-roma-girl-taken-into-care

Top story on Sky News now.

enfant terrible

Roger_007 wrote: »

My sister has three kids, two with dark hair and one with red hair......she's expecting a visit from the child protection people soon!

Tell her she's being paranoid.

Sauve

dm1979 wrote: »

Fair play to who ever gave he tip to the guards

You'd want to be some bad article to have info like that and NOT go to the guards.

iDave

Got off a bus in Drumcondra on Sunday and walked past a bunch of them sitting on the concrete ground. Didn't even think to look at the kids. Will have be more vigilante about this.

Duggy747

seamus wrote: »

Just the start of it in reality. I suspect we're about to discover major child trafficking routes all across Europe.

It really does have the possibility of something very big being uncovered, I imagine a lot of attention from authorities will be more focused on the Roma during this period.

dylbert

With all this media attention I fear for any other children that might have been abducted.

josip

Dog bites man story.

I Heart Internet

Black hair-dye sales will soar.....it really will become harder to find any other traficked children as people will be more careful...

VONSHIRACH

Eight Ball wrote: »

They already have a bad name and it's for a reason.

Its giving Tallaght a bad name.:D

whiskeyman

SpaceTime wrote: »

Front page on Sky now :

http://news.sky.com/story/1158088/ireland-blonde-roma-girl-taken-into-care

Sky News wrote:

Ireland: Blonde Roma Girl Taken Into Care
A child aged around seven is being cared for by Irish authorities after police raided a Roma camp near Dublin following a tip off.

Irish police took the girl into care after a tip off from the public

We have Roma camps here now?

Sigourney

SpaceTime wrote: »

Front page on Sky now :

http://news.sky.com/story/1158088/ireland-blonde-roma-girl-taken-into-care

Sky News? Hah! Without even checking the Daily Mail site, I can tell you it's their top story. With comments enabled.

iDave

whiskeyman wrote: »

We have Roma camps here now?

I'll refer you to that M50 roundabout.

Nodin

whiskeyman wrote: »

We have Roma camps here now?

Gardai called to a house in Tallaght in south county Dublin yesterday afternoon after they received a report that the girl was living there with a Roma family.
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/blonde-girl-7-taken-from-roma-family-in-dublin-29686005.html

VONSHIRACH

seamus wrote: »

Just the start of it in reality. I suspect we're about to discover major child trafficking routes all across Europe.

I agree. Prostitution is very much up there as a major earner for european criminal gangs.

bashir300

You can't tar all Roma with the same brush. I know plenty of decent Roma folk who are here legally and work decent, honest 9-5 jobs.....NOT!!

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

iDave wrote: »

I'll refer you to that M50 roundabout.

A roundabout on the M50?

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

All their kids should be taken whether they're kidnapped or not.
Bringing them out in all kinds of weather using them to aid their begging campaigns and teaching them to pick pocket? Kids be better off with decent families.

SEPT 23 1989

Feel sorry for that poor kid ,her kidnappers are absolute scum but if she spent years with them she thinks of them as her parents and tonight she will be living with strangers

terrible stuff:(

FutureGuy

I swear, to this day, I'm haunted by something that happened on a bus while in Krakow about 3 years ago.

A dark-coloured gyspy couple had the most beautiful girl with them. She was about 6, fair-skinned, blue eyed and blonde hair and it was clear her hair had been dyed many times but now had the colour out - her hair was like straw.

We were outside of the city and 3G was ropey at best, and I couldn't get information for the local police.

I'm 100% convinced the child was abducted. In retrospect, we could have asked someone on the bus or perhaps the conductor but who was I to ring the police just because I thought a child might be abducted - for all I knew, there was a legit reason for her to be with them.

Looking at the last two cases in Dublin and Greece, it hits home that I should have done something more about it.

el pasco

Truly shocking story hope the poor girl is ok
How did this allow to happen
These gangs have to be broken up the law is the law and we all have to obey it
I don't care about culture or whatever excuse they use this is awful and people who do this are scum

mikom

* loads up 3 wheeler van with black hair dye and heads for the nearest Roma settlement

iDave

Tripp Sharp Polygamy wrote: »

A roundabout on the M50?

Yeah a few years ago a story broke of a Roma camp living within the roundabout at the Ballymun junction.

Nodin

el pasco wrote: »

Truly shocking story hope the poor girl is ok
How did this allow to happen
These gangs have to be broken up the law is the law and we all have to obey it
I don't care about culture or whatever excuse they use this is awful and people who do this are scum

.....there's nothing concrete proven yet....

I Heart Internet

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Feel sorry for that poor kid ,her kidnappers are absolute scum but if she spent years with them she thinks of them as her parents and tonight she will be living with strangers

terrible stuff:(

Very human comment - fair play Sept!

It's awful sad to think that there's a very scared little girl who doesn't know what the hell is going on. Hopefully she's happy and feels safe. Hope they get her home - or find a safe and loving place for her to grow up.

el pasco

Nodin wrote: »

.....there's nothing concrete proven yet....

Many people here have said that they are shocked at what happened here and rightly so, so are you going to post that comment on to everyone else who post a comment like mine??

ted1

I wonder could it be a case of the mother having an affair with a local ?

el pasco

iDave wrote: »

Yeah a few years ago a story broke of a Roma camp living within the roundabout at the Ballymun junction.

How would it be safe or legal to have a Roma camp or any camp at a roundabout???

Shouldn't be allowed

zl1whqvjs75cdy

IT wasn't but they didn't particularly give a ****e.

nelly17

Time for Europol to get involved

emo72

el pasco wrote: »

How would it be safe or legal to have a Roma camp or any camp at a roundabout???

Shouldn't be allowed

That is the funniest post on here today.

On a serious note. Any Roma holding girls like this will get really worried. Wonder will kids be dumped and turn up out of nowhere

Nodin

el pasco wrote: »

How would it be safe or legal to have a Roma camp or any camp at a roundabout???

Shouldn't be allowed

It wasn't and they were sent out of the country.

dm1979

Sauve wrote: »

You'd want to be some bad article to have info like that and NOT go to the guards.[/QU
Most people turn a blind eye, you would be surprised what goes on in tallaght and doesn't get reported because its nothing to do with me or my windows will be put in if I say anything fear is a terrible thing when it stops you from doing the right thing

spank_inferno

Nodin wrote: »

.....there's nothing concrete proven yet....

So Nodin..... What do you think happened??

Pretzill

There have been many young women trafficked across Europe. Many Serbian girls forced into prostitution after the war. It's horrific to think that this is happening also makes me wonder if these ladies had children they would be powerless to keep them. I hope the powers that be are working hard to capture the criminal gangs behind these atrocities.

Nodin

spank_inferno wrote: »

So Nodin..... What do you think happened??

No idea. The cops are looking into it. Presumably when the DNA comes back, things will become clearer.

MadsL

dm1979 wrote: »

Fair play to who ever gave he tip to the guards

I thought AH generally wasn't in favour of tips?

Boom_Bap

Nodin wrote: »

It wasn't and they were sent out of the country.

it was an area near the M50/Ballymun roundabout where there were a couple of buildings (still there) and some shelters (not there anymore) that they used.

So not exactly on or under a roundabout. You can still see some of the boarded up dwellings there.

Nodin

Boom_Bap wrote: »

it was an area near the M50/Ballymun roundabout where there were a couple of buildings (still there) and some shelters (not there anymore) that they used.

So not exactly on or under a roundabout. You can still see some of the boarded up dwellings there.

O no, there was a good few on the roundabout allright (or the island in the road, whatever it was). I was just saying it wasn't tolerated, not that it didn't exist.

elfy4eva

Nodin wrote: »

O no, there was a good few on the roundabout allright (or the island in the road, whatever it was). I was just saying it wasn't tolerated, not that it didn't exist.

Aye they used to send the kids out on the busy road to beg at the cars. I remember that.

iDave

Nodin wrote: »

O no, there was a good few on the roundabout allright (or the island in the road, whatever it was). I was just saying it wasn't tolerated, not that it didn't exist.

Correct, they were actually within the roundabout

Cunning Stunt

The whole thing is so weird. Am just wondering what the Roma stand to gain from kidnapping these kids? That little girl in Greece was with them for a number of years it seems, so it doesn't look like they wanted to 'sell her off'? And not to sound bad but if they were gonna kidnap a kid and claim it's their own then why didn't they go for less conspicuous looking kids - someone with black hair or more sallow skin who would fit in better with their group?? I would not be surprised if it did transpire that someone gave their kid up to the Roma.

el pasco

emo72 wrote: »

That is the funniest post on here today.

On a serious note. Any Roma holding girls like this will get really worried. Wonder will kids be dumped and turn up out of nowhere

How is it a funniest post here today?
If these illegal camps weren't allowed then maybe they wouldn't be here and this wouldn't if happened
It is easier for illegal activities to happen in these illegal camps

Boom_Bap

Nodin wrote: »

O no, there was a good few on the roundabout allright (or the island in the road, whatever it was). I was just saying it wasn't tolerated, not that it didn't exist.

One of the access points to the area was on the Ballymun road just after the roundabout, but the camp was a bit further beyond that in the direction of where Homebase is. There is an access road that runs behind Homebase that leads to another entrace to Santry Woods/NorthWood which the camp was closer to.

Merkin

Cunning Stunt wrote: »

The whole thing is so weird. Am just wondering what the Roma stand to gain from kidnapping these kids? That little girl in Greece was with them for a number of years it seems, so it doesn't look like they wanted to 'sell her off'? And not to sound bad but if they were gonna kidnap a kid and claim it's their own then why didn't they go for less conspicuous looking kids - someone with black hair or more sallow skin who would fit in better with their group?? I would not be surprised if it did transpire that someone gave their kid up to the Roma.

Apparently they get more money having fair-skinned kids beg for them as they are considered cuter.

el pasco

Cunning Stunt wrote: »

The whole thing is so weird. Am just wondering what the Roma stand to gain from kidnapping these kids? That little girl in Greece was with them for a number of years it seems, so it doesn't look like they wanted to 'sell her off'? And not to sound bad but if they were gonna kidnap a kid and claim it's their own then why didn't they go for less conspicuous looking kids - someone with black hair or more sallow skin who would fit in better with their group?? I would not be surprised if it did transpire that someone gave their kid up to the Roma.

I think you are very naive a blond girl is more valuable as they may have plans to do terrible things to her when she is older if you know what I mean

el pasco

spank_inferno wrote: »

So Nodin..... What do you think happened??

Thank you :-)

I Heart Internet

Cunning Stunt wrote: »

The whole thing is so weird. Am just wondering what the Roma stand to gain from kidnapping these kids? That little girl in Greece was with them for a number of years it seems, so it doesn't look like they wanted to 'sell her off'? And not to sound bad but if they were gonna kidnap a kid and claim it's their own then why didn't they go for less conspicuous looking kids - someone with black hair or more sallow skin who would fit in better with their group?? I would not be surprised if it did transpire that someone gave their kid up to the Roma.

Some media talk of the child (in Greece) being "given" to the Roma family by traffickers (who they presumably knew) when a deal to sell the child abroad went sour....not entirely convincing...surely they'ed just try to sell the child to someone else.

The other urban myth/explanation is that a fair skinned/haired child would earn more money begging AND that there is a desire amongst the Roma to introduce more fair skinned genes so that they might be more accepted in wider society.

nelly17

Cunning Stunt wrote: »

The whole thing is so weird. Am just wondering what the Roma stand to gain from kidnapping these kids? That little girl in Greece was with them for a number of years it seems, so it doesn't look like they wanted to 'sell her off'? And not to sound bad but if they were gonna kidnap a kid and claim it's their own then why didn't they go for less conspicuous looking kids - someone with black hair or more sallow skin who would fit in better with their group?? I would not be surprised if it did transpire that someone gave their kid up to the Roma.

Or gave a kid up not necessairly theirs which is a concern - theres something more to this that makes me uneasy about the whole thing. I read both stories and cant see the motive, it makes no sense.

Hopefully an in depth investigation will take place and the true extent and motives are found - and hopefully innocent children rescued, but as someone posted before there are NO winners here kids will be ripped from what tthey have been led to believe are their families.

I Heart Internet

nelly17 wrote: »

there are NO winners here kids will be ripped from what tthey have been led to believe are their families.

The kids may win if they spend the rest of their lives away from the influence of these families. For example, the girl in Greece was said, by "family" to be much-loved and very well cared for by her "parents" - yet the pictures show her unwashed and unkempt.