Womens' rugby Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

sydthebeat

Looks like this year's women's 6 nations is going to be a continuation of the last few.

Professional England and France five levels above the rest....

50+ points scored against their amateur opponents.

Is the comp meritorious if 2/5s of the teams are fully professional but the other 3/5s are at least part time pro+?

sydthebeat

IRELAND WOMEN’S Team & Replacements (v Wales Women, 2021 Women’s Six Nations Championship Round 2, Cardiff Arms Park, Saturday, April 10, kick-off 5pm)


15. Eimear Considine (UL Bohemian/Munster)(15 caps)
14. Lauren Delany (Sale Sharks/IQ Rugby)(12)
13. Eve Higgins (Railway Union/Leinster)*
12. Sene Naoupu (Old Belvedere/ Leinster)(38)
11. Beibhinn Parsons (Ballinasloe/Blackrock College/Connacht)(8)
10. Hannah Tyrrell (Old Belvedere/Leinster)(17)
9. Kathryn Dane (Old Belvedere/Ulster)(10)

1. Lindsay Peat (Railway Union/Leinster)(31)
2. Cliodhna Moloney (Wasps/IQ Rugby)(23)
3. Linda Djougang (Old Belvedere/Leinster)(9)
4. Aoife McDermott (Railway Union/Leinster)(13)
5. Nichola Fryday (Blackrock College/Connacht)(15)
6. Dorothy Wall (Blackrock College/ Munster)(4)
7. Claire Molloy (Wasps/IQ Rugby)(70)
8. Ciara Griffin (Captain)(UL Bohemian/Munster)(33)

Replacements:

16. Neve Jones (Malone/Ulster)(1)
17. Katie O’Dwyer (Railway Union/Leinster)(1)
18. Laura Feely (Blackrock College/Connacht)(16)
19. Brittany Hogan (DCU/Old Belvedere/Ulster)(1)
20. Hannah O’Connor (Blackrock College/Leinster)(2)
21. Emily Lane (Blackrock College/Munster)*
22. Stacey Flood (Railway Union/Leinster)*
23. Enya Breen (UL Bohemian/Munster)(4).

* Denotes uncapped player

Lost Ormond

sydthebeat wrote: »

IRELAND WOMEN’S Team & Replacements (v Wales Women, 2021 Women’s Six Nations Championship Round 2, Cardiff Arms Park, Saturday, April 10, kick-off 5pm)


15. Eimear Considine (UL Bohemian/Munster)(15 caps)
14. Lauren Delany (Sale Sharks/IQ Rugby)(12)
13. Eve Higgins (Railway Union/Leinster)*
12. Sene Naoupu (Old Belvedere/ Leinster)(38)
11. Beibhinn Parsons (Ballinasloe/Blackrock College/Connacht)(8)
10. Hannah Tyrrell (Old Belvedere/Leinster)(17)
9. Kathryn Dane (Old Belvedere/Ulster)(10)

1. Lindsay Peat (Railway Union/Leinster)(31)
2. Cliodhna Moloney (Wasps/IQ Rugby)(23)
3. Linda Djougang (Old Belvedere/Leinster)(9)
4. Aoife McDermott (Railway Union/Leinster)(13)
5. Nichola Fryday (Blackrock College/Connacht)(15)
6. Dorothy Wall (Blackrock College/ Munster)(4)
7. Claire Molloy (Wasps/IQ Rugby)(70)
8. Ciara Griffin (Captain)(UL Bohemian/Munster)(33)

Replacements:

16. Neve Jones (Malone/Ulster)(1)
17. Katie O’Dwyer (Railway Union/Leinster)(1)
18. Laura Feely (Blackrock College/Connacht)(16)
19. Brittany Hogan (DCU/Old Belvedere/Ulster)(1)
20. Hannah O’Connor (Blackrock College/Leinster)(2)
21. Emily Lane (Blackrock College/Munster)*
22. Stacey Flood (Railway Union/Leinster)*
23. Enya Breen (UL Bohemian/Munster)(4).

* Denotes uncapped player

Seeing so many more being capped who've been playing rugby since they were 7/8 years of age which is great to see and shows the importance of these games being on tv and the success of team helping that as well.

3 of the 23 were on Munster u18s 3 years ago which is good going.

Love how so many of the players come from what are seen as junior clubs in mens rugby. Fethard, Ballinasloe, Mallow

errlloyd

Lost Ormond wrote: »

Love how so many of the players come from what are seen as junior clubs in mens rugby. Fethard, Ballinasloe, Mallow

Sure one of the most successful Women's teams is Railway Union, which is a historically junior club right? It seems a little easier for junior clubs to pivot their focus to supporting women's teams and truly valuing them. Once they do recruitment doesn't seem to be that hard!


Edit: Originally said "relatively junior club" - STB pointing out that isn't quite the case anymore, so edit to say "historically junior club"

sydthebeat

errlloyd wrote: »

Sure one of the most successful Women's teams is Railway Union, which is a relatively junior club right? !

That's a VERY touchy subject....

errlloyd

sydthebeat wrote: »

That's a VERY touchy subject....

Correct, I phrased that poorly.

Larbre34

Ireland destroying Wales in open play so far.

Ireland 17-0 up from 3 tries after just 15 minutes.

Beibhinn Parsons is a super player at 19.

Bridge93

All the talk before the tournament was the two pro teams v amateurs but on this viewing Ireland don’t deserve to be classed with the other three. Wales are brutal. Ireland in a little middle class of their own. Their pack and Parsons are absolutely murdering wales

Eod100

Some start!

Bridge93

This could be an enormous score by the end

Clegg

Ireland are utterly dominant

Larbre34

Rachael Blackmore just won the Grand National too.

Gwan the wimmens!

Strumms

Last lineout was gun barrel straight, referee having a momentary lapse in vision.

Strumms

Two errors close to the Welsh line cost us being 45-0 ahead

Deliberate knock on two meters from the ref not penalized. Joke of a ref.

ednwireland

no score now 30 mins ......

finally over the line

Teferi

ednwireland wrote: »

no score now 30 mins ......

Commentators curse

Teferi

Really enjoying the attention the women's game is getting this Six Nations. I think they should start running it after the men's tournament for future editions to increase it's attention.

Strumms

Not that it matters but the last try...Referee and touch judge should award a penalty try... tackling around the throat / neck, basically a clothesline.

Eod100

Teferi wrote: »

Really enjoying the attention the women's game is getting this Six Nations. I think they should start running it after the men's tournament for future editions to increase it's attention.

Other side of coin to that is match clashing with Leinster game. Could work even better if it didnt clash but hard to have the space outside test window I think.

Lost Ormond

Teferi wrote: »

Really enjoying the attention the women's game is getting this Six Nations. I think they should start running it after the men's tournament for future editions to increase it's attention.

Not sure they should for all games but maybe for some of them they could try play games either week before mens tournament starts or games on rest weeks of mens tournament.

Strumms

Scoreboard more reflective and true to the absolute level of dominance that the girls enjoyed over Wales...45-0... great job.

nigeldaniel

I sometimes wish the pundits and press writers did not go into so much detail about Ireland's tactics and game plans as they are giving away a lot of info.
Top drawer game and a big performance from Dorothy Wall.

TheAnalyst_

This is a bit mad.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/a-late-bloomer-to-rugby-lauren-delanys-path-to-ireland-caps-was-found-in-exile-40310980.html

Takes up rugby for the first time at 28 and three years later as 13 international caps. Hard to take the womens game seriously as an "elite" sport.

arsebiscuits1

TheAnalyst_ wrote: »

This is a bit mad.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/a-late-bloomer-to-rugby-lauren-delanys-path-to-ireland-caps-was-found-in-exile-40310980.html

Takes up rugby for the first time at 28 and three years later as 13 international caps. Hard to take the womens game seriously as an "elite" sport.

Why?

Lost Ormond

TheAnalyst_ wrote: »

This is a bit mad.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/a-late-bloomer-to-rugby-lauren-delanys-path-to-ireland-caps-was-found-in-exile-40310980.html

Takes up rugby for the first time at 28 and three years later as 13 international caps. Hard to take the womens game seriously as an "elite" sport.

Not mad at all. Happens regularly across many sports where very talented players from other sports bring those transferable skills and rise through ranks very quickly in sport 2/3.

sydthebeat

TheAnalyst_ wrote: »

This is a bit mad.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/a-late-bloomer-to-rugby-lauren-delanys-path-to-ireland-caps-was-found-in-exile-40310980.html

Takes up rugby for the first time at 28 and three years later as 13 international caps. Hard to take the womens game seriously as an "elite" sport.

tom court was a shotputter and didnt play rugby till he was 24 and was playing for ireland A 16 months later.. and ended up with 32 caps.

its not unusual for an athlete whop excels at one sport to cross over to another and excel at that too, especially where the skills transfer over quite readily

ahnowbrowncow

How are they deemed elite in the first place? They're not professional, they're viewership and attendence figures are extremely low in comparsion intercounty GAA. Ridiculous that they're allowed train, play matches and be exempt from mandatory quarantine.

callaway92

nigeldaniel wrote: »

I sometimes wish the pundits and press writers did not go into so much detail about Ireland's tactics and game plans as they are giving away a lot of info.
Top drawer game and a big performance from Dorothy Wall.

lol - The detail is there to be seen.

Every team has an analysis dept. anyway (most nations Men's and Women's teams are part of the same data package they'd get) that would already know all of this (or at least has the data there)

arsebiscuits1

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

How are they deemed elite in the first place? They're not professional, they're viewership and attendence figures are extremely low in comparsion intercounty GAA. Ridiculous that they're allowed train, play matches and be exempt from mandatory quarantine.

And yet here we are.

Get to watch a rugby game this weekend. Looking forward to it

ahnowbrowncow

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

And yet here we are.

Get to watch a rugby game this weekend. Looking forward to it

Enjoy, just pointing out the hypocrisy of the media and politicians.