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Will you wear a poppy 2013?

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    #1412
    HansHolzel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 996 ✭✭✭HansHolzel


    Jon Snow of Channel 4 had the best idea. "I do not wear emblems of any kind."


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    #1413
    IrishProd
    Registered Users Posts: 188 ✭✭IrishProd


    drquirky wrote: »
    T-runner. I'm not remotely a fan of bombing civilians. However I think it's a bit rich for any Irishman to pontificate about WW2 when your country didn't have the courage to confront fascism

    Wrong, Irishmen (republicans), for example, confronted and fought against the fascists in the Spanish Civil War, which is historical fact as I have already pointed out before, but has been conveniently ignored....


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    #1414
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    IrishProd wrote: »
    Wrong, Irishmen (republicans), for example, confronted and fought against the fascists in the Spanish Civil War, which is historical fact as I have already pointed out before, but has been conveniently ignored....
    Good thing the Irish were there to fight the fascists! ;)

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dWi1ftqEfOg/TVSLk1BObwI/AAAAAAAABmo/UUImWpiGSFM/s1600/blueshirts%255B1%255D.gif


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    #1415
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Good thing the Irish were there to fight the fascists! ;)

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dWi1ftqEfOg/TVSLk1BObwI/AAAAAAAABmo/UUImWpiGSFM/s1600/blueshirts%255B1%255D.gif

    ....because no other neutral or allied state had a right wing or Nazi party, at all, in any way shape or form. Well done to you, for a historically sound jibe well made.


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    #1416
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Nodin wrote: »
    ....because no other neutral or allied state had a right wing or Nazi party, at all, in any way shape or form. Well done to you, for a historically sound jibe well made.
    I didn't say they didn't. you're just pointing out the obvious. :)


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    #1417
    mariano rivera
    Registered Users Posts: 264 ✭✭mariano rivera


    old hippy wrote: »
    It's that time of year again where mass debates ensue over paper flowers, pensioners, prisoners of war, the struggle, lillies et al. I noticed the first advert this morning at the bus stop today.

    Will you be sporting one?

    You are a mass debater!


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    #1418
    Crooked Jack
    Registered Users Posts: 5,678 ✭✭✭Crooked Jack


    bumper234 wrote: »
    You finally have the evidence of this? I know the UVF bombed Dublin and Monaghan but was it ever proven that the British Army had anything to do with this?

    I suggest you read this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lethal-Allies-British-Collusion-Ireland/dp/1781171882


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    #1419
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Crooked Jack wrote: »
    I suggest you read this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lethal-Allies-British-Collusion-Ireland/dp/1781171882

    A book? Does the author have definitive PROOF and EVIDENCE that the BA colluded with the UVF in the Dublin bombings? This book was published almost 2 weeks ago why hasn't there been arrests over all of this new evidence?


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    #1420
    HansHolzel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 996 ✭✭✭HansHolzel


    bumper234 wrote: »
    A book? Does the author have definitive PROOF and EVIDENCE that the BA colluded with the UVF in the Dublin bombings? This book was published almost 2 weeks ago why hasn't there been arrests over all of this new evidence?

    It seems we have a Doubting John Thomas among us.


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    #1421
    A Scoundrel
    Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭A Scoundrel


    HansHolzel wrote: »
    Jon Snow of Channel 4 had the best idea. "I do not wear emblems of any kind."
    The poppy is not an emblem. It is a statement of appreciation for people whose lives were sacrificed in the wars. I don't know why people need to turn it into a political football. It's no more political than a floral wreath placed on a grave.

    The poppy is a personal statement of solidarity with the dead, not with their political leaders.


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    #1422
    HansHolzel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 996 ✭✭✭HansHolzel


    Jon Snow's reply was precisely in connection with the poppy.

    God bless your innocence, if that's what it is.


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    #1423
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    HansHolzel wrote: »
    It seems we have a Doubting John Thomas among us.

    So you think the little things like evidence should be done away with?


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    #1424
    MonstaMash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,443 ✭✭✭MonstaMash


    bumper234 wrote: »
    So you think the little things like evidence should be done away with?
    Apparently the British Government seems to think so when convenient...Birmingham 6, Guildford 4!? :rolleyes:


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    #1425
    HansHolzel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 996 ✭✭✭HansHolzel


    bumper234 wrote: »
    So you think the little things like evidence should be done away with?

    That, my friend, was what collusion was all about ;-)


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    #1426
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    MonstaMash wrote: »
    Apparently the British Government seems to think so when convenient...Birmingham 6, Guildford 4!? :rolleyes:

    Yup....and the truth came out.
    HansHolzel wrote: »
    That, my friend, was what collusion was all about ;-)

    So no evidence then?


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    #1427
    A Scoundrel
    Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭A Scoundrel


    HansHolzel wrote: »
    God bless your innocence, if that's what it is.
    Sorry to hear about your cynicism. Condolences. I'll wear a poppy for both of us, ok?


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    #1428
    HansHolzel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 996 ✭✭✭HansHolzel


    wear a dress while you're at it


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    #1429
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    HansHolzel wrote: »
    wear a dress while you're at it

    I kinda like this one ;)

    http://topvintage.nl/images/products/4249-26069-bettie-page-clothing-1950s-poppy-seed-red-swing-dres-44-4908-20130425-0006-full.jpg


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    #1430
    HansHolzel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 996 ✭✭✭HansHolzel


    you're the one with the fetish


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    #1431
    MonstaMash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,443 ✭✭✭MonstaMash


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Yup....and the truth came out.

    In the case of the Birmingham 6,16 years later & only after their convictions were declared unsafe & unsatisfactory & quashed by the court of appeal on 14 March 1991..

    The convictions of the Maguire Seven were quashed in 1991, again 16 years later...
    The court held that members of the London Metropolitan Police beat some of the seven into confessing to the crimes and withheld information that would have cleared them...

    British justice, only if your Irish though...

    Luckily you have a new enemy within to contend with, colonialism has really paid off...you reap what you sow ;) :rolleyes:


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    #1432
    MonstaMash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,443 ✭✭✭MonstaMash


    bumper234 wrote: »
    I kinda like this one ;)

    http://topvintage.nl/images/products/4249-26069-bettie-page-clothing-1950s-poppy-seed-red-swing-dres-44-4908-20130425-0006-full.jpg
    Would this not be more fitting, so to speak? ;)


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    #1433
    wazky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    MonstaMash wrote: »
    Would this not be more fitting, so to speak? ;)

    Might be a bit bloody for his liking....


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    #1434
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    MonstaMash wrote: »
    In the case of the Birmingham 6,16 years later & only after their convictions were declared unsafe & unsatisfactory & quashed by the court of appeal on 14 March 1991..

    The convictions of the Maguire Seven were quashed in 1991, again 16 years later...
    The court held that members of the London Metropolitan Police beat some of the seven into confessing to the crimes and withheld information that would have cleared them...

    British justice, only if your Irish though...

    Luckily you have a new enemy within to contend with, colonialism has really paid off...you reap what you sow ;) :rolleyes:

    As i said....the truth came out....where is the proof of collusion between the UVF and the BA? You do have it right?

    As for the bolded....care to elaborate?


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    #1435
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    wazky wrote: »
    Might be a bit bloody for his liking....

    Na but i do have my union jack on the back of my trainers and on my jacket lapel.


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    #1436
    wazky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Na but i do have my union jack on the back of my trainers and on my jacket lapel.

    Did your mammy sow them on for you?


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    #1437
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    wazky wrote: »
    Did your mammy sow them on for you?

    She has been dead for 20 years so that would be a no :rolleyes:


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    #1438
    MonstaMash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,443 ✭✭✭MonstaMash


    bumper234 wrote: »
    As i said....the truth came out....where is the proof of collusion between the UVF and the BA? You do have it right?

    As for the bolded....care to elaborate?

    I never mentioned collusion, you must be confusing me with another poster, no harm, I forgive you ;)

    As for the bolded...lucky for us Irish, your homegrown Muslim dissidents are enemy #1 now...phew :eek:


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    #1439
    wazky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    bumper234 wrote: »
    She has been dead for 20 years so that would be a no :rolleyes:

    So is mine, want to meet up for coffee and talk 'bout it?


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    #1440
    MonstaMash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,443 ✭✭✭MonstaMash


    bumper234 wrote: »
    She has been dead for 20 years so that would be a no :rolleyes:
    Sorry for your loss...RIP


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    #1441
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    MonstaMash wrote: »
    I never mentioned collusion, you must be confusing me with another poster, no harm, I forgive you ;)

    As for the bolded...lucky for us Irish, your homegrown Muslim dissidents are enemy #1 now...phew :eek:

    And your homegrown republican dissidents (terrorists) are your problem:rolleyes:


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