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Will you wear a poppy 2013?

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    #1862
    Happyman42
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    bumper234 wrote: »
    Funny that because i have been to many remembrance services in Dublin and never once been asked about or offered a poppy.

    eh...maybe that was because you were already wearing one, or did you take it off specifically for the service? :rolleyes:


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    #1863
    bumper234
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    Happyman42 wrote: »
    eh...maybe that was because you were already wearing one, or did you take it off specifically for the service? :rolleyes:

    Or maybe my poppy was on my suit lapel and because it was cold (November and all that) I usually have a coat on over it. :rolleyes:


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    #1864
    Happyman42
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    bumper234 wrote: »
    Or maybe my poppy was on my suit lapel and because it was cold (November and all that) I usually have a coat on over it. :rolleyes:

    You should have bought 2, tightwad! :rolleyes:


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    #1865
    bumper234
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    Happyman42 wrote: »
    You should have bought 2, tightwad! :rolleyes:

    I buy one every year i also have the ceramic one that i wear everyday on my jacket. I buy 2 help for heroes bands a year and i make a £100 donation to the RBL so i think i do my bit thanks.


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    #1866
    Happyman42
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    bumper234 wrote: »
    I buy one every year i also have the ceramic one that i wear everyday on my jacket. I buy 2 help for heroes bands a year and i make a £100 donation to the RBL so i think i do my bit thanks.

    I believe you, but how all that casts cold water on my claim that I felt under pressure to wear one (not buy one incidentally) I have no idea.

    As the purpose of the poppy is to be seen, I suggest you wear one on your coat btw.


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    #1867
    bumper234
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    Happyman42 wrote: »
    I believe you, but how all that casts cold water on my claim that I felt under pressure to wear one (not buy one incidentally) I have no idea.

    As the purpose of the poppy is to be seen, I suggest you wear one on your coat btw.

    No because i don't feel the need to wear it "on display" 24/7 i wear it not to make a statement but to remember.


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    #1868
    wazky
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    bumper234 wrote: »
    No because i don't feel the need to wear it "on display" 24/7 i wear it not to make a statement but to remember.

    Can you not just remember in your own self then without the need to flaunt it?, the poppy is more a fashion accessory at this stage, especially on British TV.


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    #1869
    Happyman42
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    bumper234 wrote: »
    No because i don't feel the need to wear it "on display" 24/7 i wear it not to make a statement but to remember.

    I wanted to do that without wearing the poppy too. That is why I was at the service.


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    #1870
    bumper234
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    wazky wrote: »
    Can you not just remember in your own self then without the need to flaunt it?, the poppy is more a fashion accessory at this stage, especially on British TV.

    How am i "flaunting" it?


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    #1871
    Happyman42
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    bumper234 wrote: »
    How am i "flaunting" it?

    Why do you need to show publicly that you are 'remembering'? Most people are remembering every day, people who have gone, without the need to show it publicly. There is no doubt in my mind that there is another purpose to the 'poppy' and 'Easter lily', it isn't solely about remembering.


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    #1872
    bumper234
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    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Why do you need to show publicly that you are 'remembering'? Most people are remembering every day, people who have gone, without the need to show it publicly. There is no doubt in my mind that there is another purpose to the 'poppy' and 'Easter lily', it isn't solely about remembering.

    Because when i see it it makes me think of my Grandfathers and the sacrifices they made for me and others. Just because you feel there is another purpose to the poppy is neither here nor there, that's your opinion and you are entitled to have it....in fact men fought and died in wars so you are able to voice that opinion but they shouldn't be remembered right:rolleyes:


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    #1873
    wazky
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    bumper234 wrote: »
    Because when i see it it makes me think of my Grandfathers and the sacrifices they made for me and others. Just because you feel there is another purpose to the poppy is neither here nor there, that's your opinion and you are entitled to have it....in fact men fought and died in wars so you are able to voice that opinion but they shouldn't be remembered right:rolleyes:

    So you need a constant reminder on your lapel to remind of your Grandfathers?


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    #1874
    bumper234
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    wazky wrote: »
    So you need a constant reminder on your lapel to remind of your Grandfathers?

    Nope but i do constantly wear it as a reminder ;)


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    #1875
    Happyman42
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    bumper234 wrote: »
    Because when i see it it makes me think of my Grandfathers and the sacrifices they made for me and others.
    So, you have to see one to remember them. That's fair enough if a little sad.
    Just because you feel there is another purpose to the poppy is neither here nor there,
    I thought that was the point of the thread...silly me.
    in fact men fought and died in wars so you are able to voice that opinion but they shouldn't be remembered right:rolleyes:

    I don't need to see a poppy to remember that.


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    #1876
    bumper234
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    Happyman42 wrote: »
    So, you have to see one to remember them. That's fair enough if a little sad.

    I never said that but nice twist on my words ;)

    Happyman42 wrote: »
    I thought that was the point of the thread...silly me.

    Maybe you should start at the beginning then

    Happyman42 wrote: »
    I don't need to see a poppy to remember that.

    Good man....keep up the good work ;)


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    #1877
    Happyman42
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    bumper234 wrote: »
    I never said that but nice twist on my words
    Here's what you said,
    Because when i see it it makes me think of my Grandfathers and the sacrifices they made for me and others.

    It is quite logical to infer that if the only reason for wearing the poppy is the above, that not wearing it means you will forget to remember.


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    #1878
    bumper234
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    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Here's what you said,



    It is quite logical to infer that if the only reason for wearing the poppy is the above, that not wearing it means you will forget to remember.

    I have a pictures of both my Grandfathers in their Uniform in my house that i see everyday so i have plenty of "reminders" thanks. Feel free to keep twisting the meanings though it's quite funny to watch you resort to twisting words to suit your own agenda.

    Keep up the good work ;)


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    #1879
    Happyman42
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    bumper234 wrote: »
    I have a pictures of both my Grandfathers in their Uniform in my house that i see everyday so i have plenty of "reminders" thanks.

    So why the need to see the poppy displayed? Sorry, it is you that is being unclear here.


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    #1880
    bumper234
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    Happyman42 wrote: »
    So why the need to see the poppy displayed? Sorry, it is you that is being unclear here.

    Who said it is "displayed"?


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    #1881
    Happyman42
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    bumper234 wrote: »
    Who said it is "displayed"?
    Because when i see it it makes me think of my Grandfathers and the sacrifices they made for me and others.

    Because when you say 'I see it' usually means something is 'displayed'.


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    #1882
    bumper234
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    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Because when you say 'I see it' usually means something is 'displayed'.

    ah i see

    Do you display your tie?

    Do you display your shoes?

    Do you display your jeans?

    Do you display your glasses?

    I see myself in a mirror right now....does that mean i am on display? :confused:


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    #1883
    Dyr
    Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    bumper234 wrote: »
    in fact men fought and died in wars so you are able to voice that opinion but they shouldn't be remembered right:rolleyes:


    Are you back at this? What men died for my freedom of speech then?


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    #1884
    Happyman42
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    bumper234 wrote: »
    ah i see

    Do you display your tie?

    Do you display your shoes?

    Do you display your jeans?

    Do you display your glasses?

    I see myself in a mirror right now....does that mean i am on display? :confused:

    Ok, I see where this is going. Your fear to go any further into why there is a need to publicly display that you are 'remembering' is palpable.


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    #1885
    bumper234
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    Bambi wrote: »
    Are you back at this? What men died for my freedom of speech then?

    Plenty of Irishmen have died over the years haven't they? Did none of them ever fight for your rights? Or where they just handed to you on a plate?


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    #1886
    bumper234
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    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Ok, I see where this is going. Your fear to go any further into why there is a need to publicly display that you are 'remembering' is palpable.

    I have no "need" to display publicly or any other way. I "choose" to wear a poppy.....no one has ever had a problem with me doing this over the years so why does it seem to bother you?


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    #1887
    Happyman42
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    bumper234 wrote: »
    I have no "need" to display publicly or any other way. I "choose" to wear a poppy.....no one has ever had a problem with me doing this over the years so why does it seem to bother you?

    I merely asked you why do you 'choose' to wear one. You said it was because seeing it reminded you of your relatives.
    I asked you why you 'needed to see' a poppy displayed to do that and you tell us that you have plenty of other 'reminders' and then resorted to analysis of the word 'display'.

    Now you say you have no 'need' to see it.
    Which is it, what is the point of the public display of the poppy?


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    #1888
    cdebru
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    bumper234 wrote: »
    ...in fact men fought and died in wars so you are able to voice that opinion but they shouldn't be remembered right:rolleyes:


    I have no issue in honouring people who fought and died for freedom, I do have an issue honouring those who fought and died to rape, rob, murder, pillage and enslave whole nations.


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    #1889
    bumper234
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    Happyman42 wrote: »
    I merely asked you why do you 'choose' to wear one. You said it was because seeing it reminded you of your relatives.
    I asked you why you 'needed to see' a poppy displayed to do that and you tell us that you have plenty of other 'reminders' and then resorted to analysis of the word 'display'.

    Now you say you have no 'need' to see it.
    Which is it, what is the point of the public display of the poppy?

    Do you remember your dead relatives 24/7?


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    #1890
    Happyman42
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    bumper234 wrote: »
    Do you remember your dead relatives 24/7?

    What has it got to do with memory difficulties I have. I don't wear or need to publicly display anything to show I am remembering. You said you do need these things to remember, and it is why the poppy is on public display. If you have now changed your mind and you don't need them to remember then what is their purpose?


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    #1891
    bumper234
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    Happyman42 wrote: »
    What has it got to do with memory difficulties I have. I don't wear or need to publicly display anything to show I am remembering. You said you do need these things to remember, and it is why the poppy is on public display. If you have now changed your mind and you don't need them to remember then what is their purpose?

    you keep saying this...please show a post where i said i "nee" to wear one. I think you will find i say i CHOOSE to wear one :rolleyes:


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