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Will you wear a poppy 2013?

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    #1892
    Happyman42
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    bumper234 wrote: »
    you keep saying this...please show a post where i said i "nee" to wear one. I think you will find i say i CHOOSE to wear one :rolleyes:

    Lets try it another way. If you didn't have or see a poppy then that wouldn't be a problem for you?


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    #1893
    bumper234
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    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Lets try it another way. If you didn't have or see a poppy then that wouldn't be a problem for you?

    In the same way if i didn't have my watch with me, i would notice it missing, it wouldn't bother me but i would notice it missing.


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    #1894
    Happyman42
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    bumper234 wrote: »
    i would notice it missing.

    Why?

    I would miss my watch too because I need it to know the time.


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    #1895
    bumper234
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    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Why?

    I would miss my watch too because I need it to know the time.

    I have my phone for that.


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    #1896
    Happyman42
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    bumper234 wrote: »
    I have my phone for that.

    Very good.

    Maybe come back on thread when you have some more self awareness, your palpable fears are surfacing again.


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    #1897
    Karl Stein
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    Just saw 'poppy angels' (children all dressed in white wearing poppies) singing some armed forces tribute song the UK's state broadcaster's One Show.

    It was all a bit creepy.


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    #1898
    bumper234
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    Carlos Roca wrote: »
    Just saw 'poppy angels' (children all dressed in white wearing poppies) singing some armed forces tribute song the UK's state broadcaster's One Show.

    It was all a bit creepy.

    Are you some sort of masochist? You hate Britain and all it stands for you hate the BBC and all it stands for but choose to watch British people on the state run TV channels :rolleyes:


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    #1899
    Karl Stein
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    bumper234 wrote: »
    Are you some sort of masochist? You hate Britain and all it stands for you hate the BBC and all it stands for but choose to watch British people on the state run TV channels :rolleyes:

    Do you have difficulty with your reading comprehension?

    Where did I say I hate Britain and all it stands for?

    You've got your union flag knickers in a twist again.


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    #1900
    bumper234
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    Carlos Roca wrote: »
    Do you have difficulty with your reading comprehension?

    Where did I say I hate Britain and all it stands for?

    You've got your union flag knickers in a twist again.

    I have decided to take a leaf from the shinnerbot book and "read between the lines" this basically means I will take your words, twist them to fit my agenda and then throw it back at you. So why where you watching the one show (a quintessentially British program)?


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    #1901
    Fratton Fred
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    Carlos Roca wrote: »
    Just saw 'poppy angels' (children all dressed in white wearing poppies) singing some armed forces tribute song the UK's state broadcaster's One Show.

    It was all a bit creepy.

    My daughter spent the evening singing "soldiers are we" and stuff about manning the gap of danger mid Canon's roar and rifle peal.


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    #1902
    Jorah
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    Zebra3 wrote: »
    So you support war criminals who occupy other peoples' lands, massacre them, maim them, kill their kids, and yet someone giving you a bit of stick for doing so is an idiot? :rolleyes:

    Typical uneducated opinion.
    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Why not fundraise for those maimed by the British forces?

    Nobody is stopping you. I bet you're one of those people who claim to be morally outraged by the actions of the US/UK forces but have never done a thing in your life to support people living in those countries. You don't care, stop pretending you do.


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    #1903
    Karl Stein
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    bumper234 wrote: »
    I have decided to take a leaf from the shinnerbot book and "read between the lines" this basically means I will take your words, twist them to fit my agenda and then throw it back at you.

    I have no idea what you're trying to say here.
    So why where you watching the one show (a quintessentially British program)?

    I was watching the BBC NI news and it was on after when I came back to the TV.

    Btw I think the BBC is a great broadcasting service if you can park the military jingoism. Some of my favourite broadcasters, actors and comedians work in British TV/entertainment.

    Dara Ó Briain
    Graham Norton
    Ed Byrne
    Dylan Moran
    Liz Bonham
    David O'Doherty
    Ardal O'Hanlon
    Graham Linenhan
    Arthur Mathews
    Chris O'Dowd

    ;)
    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    What about...

    What do you have to say about the goonery that surrounds the poppy appeal?


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    #1904
    Gee Bag
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    Jorah wrote: »
    I bet you're one of those people who claim to be morally outraged by the actions of the US/UK forces but have never done a thing in your life to support people living in those countries. You don't care, stop pretending you do.

    Please explain how invading Iraq and creating a vicous sectarian war has helped them?


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    #1905
    Fratton Fred
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    Carlos Roca wrote: »

    What do you have to say about the goonery that surrounds the poppy appeal?

    Have you not read the whole thread? The poppy fascists are diluting what the poppy means, I've said that before.

    But jingoism you allude to isn't unique to the UK, do you not find ten year old girls sing soldiers are we a bit creepy?

    Out of curiosity, how would you feel if the Irish soldiers in Syria had been injured in the attack today?


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    #1906
    Karl Stein
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    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    But jingoism you allude to isn't unique to the UK

    So what?
    do you not find ten year old girls sing soldiers are we a bit creepy?

    'But, but, them'uns are as bad'. This thread is about the poppy. If you want to start a thread about the Irish anthem go right ahead and I'll comment there.
    Out of curiosity, how would you feel if the Irish soldiers in Syria had been injured in the attack today?

    They and their families would have my sympathy.


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    #1907
    SoulandForm
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    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    Have you not read the whole thread? The poppy fascists are diluting what the poppy means, I've said that before.

    But jingoism you allude to isn't unique to the UK, do you not find ten year old girls sing soldiers are we a bit creepy?

    Out of curiosity, how would you feel if the Irish soldiers in Syria had been injured in the attack today?

    I do; but the British national anthem has verses about bashing the Scots when Scotland is a part of the UK. That is a bit more creepy. Personally I would have "Jerusalem" as the national anthem if I was British.


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    #1908
    Fratton Fred
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    SoulandForm wrote: »
    I do; but the British national anthem has verses about bashing the Scots when Scotland is a part of the UK.

    It doesn't, that's a myth.


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    #1909
    Micky Dolenz
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    Great to see this topic never dies.

    I have no problem wearing a poppy. Went to visit Flanders fields last year, we've come a long way.


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    #1910
    SoulandForm
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    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    It doesn't, that's a myth.

    Well originally it did.


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    #1911
    Fratton Fred
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    Carlos Roca wrote: »
    So what?

    'But, but, them'uns are as bad'. This thread is about the poppy. If you want to start a thread about the Irish anthem go right ahead and I'll comment there.

    Isn't there a phrase in the bible about criticising the spec in your neighbours eye when you can't see the tree in your own?
    Carlos Roca wrote: »
    They and their families would have my sympathy.

    Which is exactly how lots of people feel about British soldiers currently serving on UN missions, except that a lot are actually being killed and injured. Therefore a lot are proud to show their support by wearing a poppy.


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    #1912
    Karl Stein
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    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    Isn't there a phrase in the bible about criticising the spec in your neighbours eye when you can't see the tree in your own?

    I think that the tree is in your eye and the spec of sawdust is in mine. There's simply no comparison between British media military jingoism and Irish (if anything Irish Nationalism is stigmatised here). Poppy month and all the X-factor poppy goonery that surrounds it is testament to that.
    Which is exactly how lots of people feel about British soldiers currently serving on UN missions, except that a lot are actually being killed and injured. Therefore a lot are proud to show their support by wearing a poppy.

    I don't have an issue with British people remembering their war dead. That said, if I was British I'd have a serious problem with 'my' government sending troops abroad to be blown to bits for obtuse reasons.


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    #1913
    cailinardthair
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    I have no problem with someone wearing the poppy, I understand the meaning and the significance of it to the British.

    I hope I don't offend but I do have a problem with all the TV presenters wearing them weeks before remembrance week. It seems to get early every year. My dad is Scottish and he shares the same view as me. To him its losing the value it represents and its becoming more a of a fashion statement, who wears it first kind of thing.

    Now the only reason I could find for them wearing it early is that the British army needs more money due to the troops abroad.

    Now I don't know if this is true but I did hear a story of a top British station would not interview someone (I think the person was German so I could understand why they wouldn't) because they refused to wear it. I don't think people should be forced to wear it, People have good reason not too.


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    #1914
    Fratton Fred
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    SoulandForm wrote: »
    Well originally it did.

    The verse was sung during the jacobite rebellion for about three months, but was never part of the national anthem.


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    #1915
    SoulandForm
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    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    The verse was sung during the jacobite rebellion for about three months, but was never part of the national anthem.

    Are you sure?

    Im not but I will look into it.

    If you are going to be a British though I think you should be a Jacobite but that is probably for another thread.


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    #1916
    Judgement Day
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    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    The verse was sung during the jacobite rebellion for about three months, but was never part of the national anthem.

    Lord, grant that Marshal Wade
    May, by thy mighty aid,
    Victory bring.
    May he sedition hush
    And, like a torrent, rush
    Rebellious Scots to crush.
    God save the King.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Wade

    I trust it will be reinstated, along with Hadrian's Wall, if the disloyal beggars vote for independence. :D


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    #1917
    tdv123
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    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    Have you not read the whole thread? The poppy fascists are diluting what the poppy means, I've said that before.

    But jingoism you allude to isn't unique to the UK, do you not find ten year old girls sing soldiers are we a bit creepy?

    Out of curiosity, how would you feel if the Irish soldiers in Syria had been injured in the attack today?

    What are Irish soldiers doing in Syria?


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    #1918
    Fratton Fred
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    tdv123 wrote: »
    What are Irish soldiers doing in Syria?

    They are on a UN mission, do you not read the papers?


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    #1919
    SoulandForm
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    Judgement Day wrote: »
    Lord, grant that Marshal Wade
    May, by thy mighty aid,
    Victory bring.
    May he sedition hush
    And, like a torrent, rush
    Rebellious Scots to crush.
    God save the King.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Wade

    I trust it will be reinstated, along with Hadrian's Wall, if the disloyal beggars vote for independence. :D



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    #1920
    Judgement Day
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    What can I say, the Scottish are great at singing and so are the Irish...


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    #1921
    tdv123
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    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    They are on a UN mission, do you not read the papers?

    What's their mission statement? Yes I read papers. Do you use Head Shoulders shampoo?


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