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Will you wear a poppy 2013?

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    #2432
    LOSTfan57
    Registered Users Posts: 682 ✭✭✭LOSTfan57


    So this ****e comes to an end :D


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    #2433
    dublinbhoy88
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    timthumbni wrote: »
    Remembrance Sunday starting on the Brixton broadcasting corporation now for anyone interested.

    Lest we forget....
    lest you forget indeed.. Hundreds of years of state sponsored terrorism that is


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    #2434
    Tugboats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭Tugboats


    Wearing mine with pride today. Love upsetting the Celtic/RA/Buckfast brigade:D


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    #2435
    bumper234
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    dublinbhoy88 wrote: »
    lest you forget indeed.. Hundreds of years of state sponsored terrorism that is

    Yeah it was shocking how an Irish government minister was diverting government funds to the IRA and helping to ship arms into the country. If that isn't state sponsored terrorism then please tell me what it is.


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    #2436
    Lapin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    timthumbni wrote: »
    Remembrance Sunday starting on the Brixton broadcasting corporation now for anyone interested.

    Lest we forget....

    :confused:


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    #2437
    who the fug
    Registered Users Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭who the fug


    Lapin wrote: »
    :confused:

    Leny Henry TV show from the late eighties BBC = Brixton Broadcasting Corporation


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    #2438
    HansHolzel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 996 ✭✭✭HansHolzel


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Yeah it was shocking how an Irish government minister was diverting government funds to the IRA and helping to ship arms into the country. If that isn't state sponsored terrorism then please tell me what it is.

    It was an attempt to prevent an even bigger Orange-Nazi pogrom.

    Billy McKee and a few of the boys with just a few guns held off thousands of marauding Orange apes at St. Matthew's Church in June 1970.


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    #2439
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Yeah it was shocking how an Irish government minister was diverting government funds to the IRA and helping to ship arms into the country. If that isn't state sponsored terrorism then please tell me what it is.



    ...even if everything that was said about that was true, how does that get you off the hook?


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    #2440
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Nodin wrote: »
    ...even if everything that was said about that was true, how does that get you off the hook?

    What hook am I on? Why am I on it and how did I get there?


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    #2441
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    bumper234 wrote: »
    What hook am I on? Why am I on it and how did I get there?


    The general "you" as you've decided to defend hundreds of years of Empire etc. That's the hook, that's why you're on it and yes, you put yourself there.


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    #2442
    tipptom
    Registered Users Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭tipptom


    Tugboats wrote: »
    Wearing mine with pride today. Love upsetting the Celtic/RA/Buckfast brigade:D
    Hope they give you a good going over,not because you are wearing a poppy,but just because your a racist idiot.:D


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    #2443
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Nodin wrote: »
    The general "you" as you've decided to defend hundreds of years of Empire etc. That's the hook, that's why you're on it and yes, you put yourself there.

    I am not defending "hundreds of years of Empire" you just misinterpret that as it then gives you a chance to continue wringing your hands while lamenting "woe is me, sure look at me 800 years of oppression has me bet down here in the gutter to be sure for sure bejesus and begorrah" . :rolleyes:


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    #2444
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    tipptom wrote: »
    Hope they give you a good going over,not because you are wearing a poppy,but just because your a racist idiot.:D

    Racist ????


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    #2445
    timthumbni
    Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    dublinbhoy88 wrote: »
    lest you forget indeed.. Hundreds of years of state sponsored terrorism that is

    Yes. That's what the poppy and Remembrance Day is about.... In your mind.


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    #2446
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    bumper234 wrote: »
    I am not defending "hundreds of years of Empire" you just misinterpret that as it then gives you a chance to continue wringing your hands while lamenting "woe is me, sure look at me 800 years of oppression has me bet down here in the gutter to be sure for sure bejesus and begorrah" . :rolleyes:


    No, that's exactly what you did. You brought up Charlie Haughey when somebody mentioned the Empire. Now unless CJ had a secret life as a war mongering dictator whose crimes spanned the centuries, that's a poor, sad excuse for an argument.


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    #2447
    Fukuoka Eagle
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    PaddyORuadhan wrote: »

    The poppy is all about glorification of war, and seeks to justify all the wars being remembered as somehow honourable.

    That's like saying that the daffodil glorifies cancer.


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    #2448
    dirtyden
    Registered Users Posts: 1,734 ✭✭✭dirtyden


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Yeah it was shocking how an Irish government minister was diverting government funds to the IRA and helping to ship arms into the country. If that isn't state sponsored terrorism then please tell me what it is.

    So 800 years of murder, pillage, famine and apartheid should be forgiven because of the 'alleged' actions of a couple of people, which they were brought up in front of a court for? There were mitigating circumstances for those actions at the time. A reasonable man like Lynch considered the extreme action of sending the Irish army across the border to protect catholic communities given the real fear of unionist pogroms.

    You really could not be comparing more contrasting situations if you tried.


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    #2449
    Fukuoka Eagle
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    I'm enjoying watching the Remembrance Sunday commemorations. The march past the Cenotaph and the Women at War Memorial is about to begin.


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    #2450
    bumper234
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    Nodin wrote: »
    No, that's exactly what you did. You brought up Charlie Haughey when somebody mentioned the Empire. Now unless CJ had a secret life as a war mongering dictator whose crimes spanned the centuries, that's a poor, sad excuse for an argument.

    Please show me where he mentions "The Empire" in this post :confused:
    dublinbhoy88 wrote: »
    lest you forget indeed.. Hundreds of years of state sponsored terrorism that is

    While at it lets look at that shall we.

    State sponsored terrorism.

    A minister for state moves funds to a terrorist organisation.

    A minister for state gets caught up in gun running for the terrorist organisation.


    sounds like state sponsored terrorism to me. Or is it only state sponsored terrorism when it's the big bold Brits :rolleyes:


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    #2451
    Big Davey
    Registered Users Posts: 778 ✭✭✭Big Davey


    old hippy wrote: »
    It's that time of year again where mass debates ensue over paper flowers, pensioners, prisoners of war, the struggle, lillies et al. I noticed the first advert this morning at the bus stop today.

    Will you be sporting one?
    Get a life man is this all you have to do with you time.


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    #2452
    timthumbni
    Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    Fukuoka Eagle wrote: »
    I'm enjoying watching the Remembrance Sunday commemorations. The march past the Cenotaph and the Women at War Memorial is about to begin.

    I'm amazed at how strong a man the queen's hubby Phil looks at 92. I know he's coming to end of his innings but he certainly doesn't look that age. What a bloke. And indeed the queen herself is looking fit for 87.


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    #2453
    dirtyden
    Registered Users Posts: 1,734 ✭✭✭dirtyden


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Please show me where he mentions "The Empire" in this post :confused:



    While at it lets look at that shall we.

    State sponsored terrorism.

    A minister for state moves funds to a terrorist organisation.

    A minister for state gets caught up in gun running for the terrorist organisation.


    sounds like state sponsored terrorism to me. Or is it only state sponsored terrorism when it's the big bold Brits :rolleyes:

    But these alleged events were not state sanctioned? Did you miss that whole part of this history. There was something called the Arms trial.


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    #2454
    tipptom
    Registered Users Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭tipptom


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    Racist ????
    Would you not think that is an insulting racist stereotype right there????


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    #2455
    wazky
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    timthumbni wrote: »
    I'm amazed at how strong a man the queen's hubby Phil looks at 92. I know he's coming to end of his innings but he certainly doesn't look that age. What a bloke. And indeed the queen herself is looking fit for 87.

    They have had the best of care for the past few decades?, not as if Lizzy is struggling to get to the post office every week to collect her pension and pay the electricity bill.

    They don't lead normal lives, they lead a life wrapped in cotton wool.


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    #2456
    Tugboats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭Tugboats


    wazky wrote: »
    They have had the best of care for the past few decades?, not as if Lizzy is struggling to get to the post office every week to collect her pension and pay the electricity bill.

    They don't lead normal lives, they lead a life wrapped in cotton wool.

    :o


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    #2457
    timthumbni
    Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    wazky wrote: »
    They have had the best of care for the past few decades?, not as if Lizzy is struggling to get to the post office every week to collect her pension and pay the electricity bill.

    They don't lead normal lives, they lead a life wrapped in cotton wool.

    Irrespective Phil is a tough looking old buzzard for 92.


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    #2458
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Big Davey wrote: »
    Get a life man is this all you have to do with you time.

    Welcome to 3 weeks ago :rolleyes:


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    #2459
    wazky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    timthumbni wrote: »
    Irrespective Phil is a tough looking old buzzard for 92.

    True, he resembles an oul vulture more every day. ;)


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    #2460
    Big Davey
    Registered Users Posts: 778 ✭✭✭Big Davey


    wazky wrote: »
    They have had the best of care for the past few decades?, not as if Lizzy is struggling to get to the post office every week to collect her pension and pay the electricity bill.

    They don't lead normal lives, they lead a life wrapped in cotton wool.
    I bet they are eating the finest fillet steak and lobster etc etc not super value sausages and mash every second day because the property tax or some other ridiculous charge is using up your hard earned money.


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    #2461
    Big Davey
    Registered Users Posts: 778 ✭✭✭Big Davey


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Welcome to 3 weeks ago :rolleyes:

    I didn't realise there was a time limit ? Is there ?


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