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Will you wear a poppy 2013?

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    #2762
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Nodin wrote: »
    Yes, a discussion always excuses sweeping generalisations, snide remarks and the like.

    Sweeping generalisations about the Irish = mask slipping.

    Sweeping generalisations about the Brits = discussion


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    #2763
    SoulandForm
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,096 ✭✭✭SoulandForm


    ChicagoJoe wrote: »
    And by the way, since the Scottish famines of the 16th century are over now, you can go home and give the indigenous Irish people their land back in the north. And while you're at it the Brits can also give the indigenous people of Africa, India, Australia, New Zealand, etc their land back stolen by British Imperialists (whom you wear a poppy to of course) and held onto by British mining and oil companies thanks to ’ agreements ’ imposed at the point of a gun.

    The pot shouldn't call the kettle black buddy.

    How many generations back of pure blood do people have to be in your opinion in order to stay in Ulster?


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    #2764
    SoulandForm
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,096 ✭✭✭SoulandForm


    As much as Im against internment by remand and the conditions that exist inside Maghaberry prison Id rather be there than in Guantanamo Bay.


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    #2765
    P_1
    Registered Users Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    Sweeping generalisations about the Irish = mask slipping.

    Sweeping generalisations about the Brits = discussion

    Sweeping generalisations about any nationality = idiocy


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    #2766
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    P_1 wrote: »
    Sweeping generalisations about any nationality = idiocy

    But an easy trap to fall in to.


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    #2767
    ChicagoJoe
    Registered Users Posts: 372 ✭✭ChicagoJoe


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    Says the American.....
    D'oh ...... says the fella who brought up about going home and giving indigenous people their land back.


    ( By the way I am " back home ", father is from Newry, mother's folks from Enniscorthy and Derry city, living in Ireland 5 years and have an Irish passport - what passport do you have? It's very rich but typical of a Brit to be telling anyone to " go home " ;))


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    #2768
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    ChicagoJoe wrote: »
    D'oh ...... says the fella who brought up about going home and giving indigenous people their land back.


    ( By the way I am " back home ", father is from Newry, mother's folks from Enniscorthy and Derry city, living in Ireland 5 years and have an Irish passport - what passport do you have? It's very rich but typical of a Brit to be telling anyone to " go home " ;))

    So why are you bragging about the US? Are you Irish or American?


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    #2769
    ChicagoJoe
    Registered Users Posts: 372 ✭✭ChicagoJoe


    SoulandForm wrote: »
    How many generations back of pure blood do people have to be in your opinion in order to stay in Ulster?
    Ask your buddy Fratton Fred as he is the one who brought up about people " going home ".

    One thing I have to say, only seen about two or three people in the last few weeks yet with a poppy in Dublin? Guys from down the country have told me they have never seen anyone wear a poppy in their town or village, even in the border counties.


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    #2770
    ChicagoJoe
    Registered Users Posts: 372 ✭✭ChicagoJoe


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    So why are you bragging about the US? Are you Irish or American?
    Well if America ever declares war on Ireland I'll be on the Irish side :)


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    #2771
    SoulandForm
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,096 ✭✭✭SoulandForm


    ChicagoJoe wrote: »
    Ask your buddy Fratton Fred as he is the one who brought up about people " going home ".

    Uh Fred is not my buddy (not that I have any bad will towards him), I only know him from here and we usually disagree but I know exactly what he was doing there; pointing out your hypocrisy (which is why I thanked his post).

    Now you made the comment and Im asking you how many generations of pure blood do people have to have to be allowed to say in Ulster in your opinion?


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    #2772
    ChicagoJoe
    Registered Users Posts: 372 ✭✭ChicagoJoe


    SoulandForm wrote: »
    Uh Fred is not my buddy (not that I have any bad will towards him), I only know him from here and we usually disagree but I know exactly what he was doing there; pointing out your hypocrisy (which is why I thanked his post).

    Now you made the comment and Im asking you how many generations of pure blood do people have to have to be allowed to say in Ulster in your opinion?
    Answer is in post #2769.


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    #2773
    SoulandForm
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,096 ✭✭✭SoulandForm


    ChicagoJoe wrote: »
    Well if America ever declares war on Ireland I'll be on the Irish side :)

    Should Ireland ban the American military from using Shannon airport?

    Should it arrest for treason on return any Irish person who joined the American armed forces?

    Should Ireland nationalize all American owned businesses here without compensation?


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    #2774
    SoulandForm
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,096 ✭✭✭SoulandForm


    ChicagoJoe wrote: »
    Answer is in post #2769.

    No you said clearly that you believe that the Scotch Irish should leave Ulster; Fred didnt- so what it has to do with him I do not know.


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    #2775
    ChicagoJoe
    Registered Users Posts: 372 ✭✭ChicagoJoe


    Is it true that much of the money supposedly raised for charity and the injured ends up in British Legion drinking clubs?


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    #2776
    LordSutch
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    SoulandForm wrote: »
    No you said clearly that you believe that the Scotch Irish should leave Ulster; Fred didnt- so what it has to do with him I do not know.

    Serious question; Is Scots Irish the same as Ulster Scots? I guess so, just a different term?


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    #2777
    SoulandForm
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,096 ✭✭✭SoulandForm


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Serious question; Is Scots Irish the same as Ulster Scots? I guess so, just a different term?

    Yes its the same.


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    #2778
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Serious question; Is Scots Irish the same as Ulster Scots? I guess so, just a different term?

    Scotch Irish is, I believe, how the Americans term it.

    Unless that's bushmills!


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    #2779
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    ChicagoJoe wrote: »
    Is it true that much of the money supposedly raised for charity and the injured ends up in British Legion drinking clubs?

    They have a number of clubs, similar to working men's clubs. I would have thought they were pretty much self financing though.


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    #2780
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    SoulandForm wrote: »
    No you said clearly that you believe that the Scotch Irish should leave Ulster; Fred didnt- so what it has to do with him I do not know.

    I'm guessing Joe thinks I'm a loyalist.


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    #2781
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    I'm guessing Joe thinks I'm a loyalist.


    I'm guessing maybe Joe is reading your comments, like everybody else.


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    #2782
    barney10
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17 ✭barney10


    Nodin wrote: »
    ....and the bitterness tends to come out too.

    Are one liners your speciality ??


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    #2783
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 29,073 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    ChicagoJoe wrote: »
    Is it true that much of the money supposedly raised for charity and the injured ends up in British Legion drinking clubs?
    don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me if it is true.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #2784
    Hilly Bill
    Registered Users Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    So you think it's appropriate for people in fancy dress to take such a prominent position for a minute's silence? :confused:

    Yes, nothing wrong with it. If it was at the cenotaph in London then it would be a different kettle of tea bags all together.


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    #2785
    Hilly Bill
    Registered Users Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    ChicagoJoe wrote: »
    Well if America ever declares war on Ireland I'll be on the Irish side :)

    And Ireland will be looking at the UK for protection.


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    #2786
    Hilly Bill
    Registered Users Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    ChicagoJoe wrote: »
    Is it true that much of the money supposedly raised for charity and the injured ends up in British Legion drinking clubs?

    No.


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    #2787
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Hilly Bill wrote: »
    Yes, nothing wrong with it.


    Maybe things are changing and I'm outta touch but I think suggesting that cuddly toys and dinosaurs are sentient beings and are capable of solemn remembrance is always gonna risk you getting ridiculed.

    Best leave that stuff to Disney and Pixar.


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    #2788
    HansHolzel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 996 ✭✭✭HansHolzel


    Quelle surprise

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/no-prosecutions-to-be-taken-against-british-soldiers-accused-of-singing-sectarian-songs-at-glasgow-rangers-match-1.1591404


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    #2789
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    HansHolzel wrote: »
    Quelle surprise

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/no-prosecutions-to-be-taken-against-british-soldiers-accused-of-singing-sectarian-songs-at-glasgow-rangers-match-1.1591404

    That is totally off topic
    But to put your mind at rest in Scottish courts No Surrender was found not to be a sectarian song but a folk song. Now whether you agree with this is another matter you would also think the Irish Times would do there job properly. After all it is played all over the world on a regular basis including here in the Republic of Ireland.


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    #2790
    SoulandForm
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,096 ✭✭✭SoulandForm


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    That is totally off topic
    But to put your mind at rest in Scottish courts No Surrender was found not to be a sectarian song but a folk song. Now whether you agree with this is another matter you would also think the Irish Times would do there job properly. After all it is played all over the world on a regular basis including here in the Republic of Ireland.

    What exactly do you mean by No Surrender? Do you mean Derry's Wall (which is an actual folk song and quite a good one)?


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    #2791
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    SoulandForm wrote: »
    What exactly do you mean by No Surrender? Do you mean Derry's Wall (which is an actual folk song and quite a good one)?

    Yes thats the one I should have cleared that up at the start sorry


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