Plumber or Electrician?

BrianJD

Hiya

I'm looking to fit an electric shower to the bath in my main bathroom. Do i need both an electrician and a plumber to do this?

Thanks

Cycling Dumbasses

You need a registered electrician to do the electrical side of it as of new legislation 1st October 2013, an electrician who is competent in plumbing could also do the plumbing side of it, so one tradesman would do.

Egass13

Or you could get a plumber to to do the plumbing and electrical work at the shower , and run cable back to main consumer board, where he would most likely have a sparks that he works with that could make the final connection as required. Id rather trust a plumber to pull a cable than trust a sparks to plumb in a shower.

Cycling Dumbasses

Egass13 wrote: »

Or you could get a plumber to to do the plumbing and electrical work at the shower , and run cable back to main consumer board, where he would most likely have a sparks that he works with that could make the final connection as required. Id rather trust a plumber to pull a cable than trust a sparks to plumb in a shower.

That plumber does not know much if he runs the cable from shower to consumer unit, local isolation required i.e 45 amp double pole switch either pull cord or wall mounted, in my experience i always check connections done by plumber at shower because more times than not they dont sleeve the earth wire plus do very bad termination in connector block at shower.

Egass13

Obviously you need isolation, didn't realize a full detailed technical explanation was needed , a GOOD plumber would know this aswell . I'd still rather let a competent plumber pull a cable from a to b before I'd let a sparks make a connection to either tank or mains water supplies in the attic.

Cycling Dumbasses

Can an electrician not be a competent plumber too?

Tokyo

If the electricity and the water all come tumbling out the shower nozzle at the same time, it's not the water part that's going to kill you. Get in a sparky to run your cables, wire in an appropriate breaker in the panel, isolation switch and shower. Has to be signed off on by a sparky under the new regs in any case, unless I"m mistaken.

Egass13

Can a plumber not be a competent electrician ?

Tokyo

Egass13 wrote: »

Can a plumber not be a competent electrician ?

Of course he can, but...

a) can a plumber sign off on an electrical installation under the new regs?

b) if the plumbing part gets shoddily done, will it kill you? Now if the wiring part gets shoddily done?

Guess the best answer I can give is for any homeowner to ask himself the above questions. If he's not worried about either, then by all means, go ahead...

scudo2

Egass13 wrote: »

Can a plumber not be a competent electrician ?

Yes to replace but not allowed to do new connections on fuse board according to RECI /RGII when I asked them.
Were allowed to wire off from socket for heating through a fuse switch for our type of work.
But I was informed by RECI that fuse board is now off limits to us.

Egass13

I don't remember suggesting a plumber could sign off the job. . And to vere away from death for a minute . When the connection that the sparks made to the water supply , tank or mains , decides to blow off and flood the house what happens then? When the insurance company looks for the sparks qualifications to carry out the plumbing work and he Dsnt have them who foots the bill?

Two seperate trades so get two seperate tradesmen and hey presto , job is done and not a single funeral to attend.

Egass13

scudo2 wrote: »

Yes to replace but not allowed to do new connections on fuse board according to RECI /RGII when I asked them.
Were allowed to wire off from socket for heating through a fuse switch for our type of work.
But I was informed by RECI that fuse board is now off limits to us.

I know scudo2, that's why I said about a sparks connecting to the consumer unit

Tokyo

Egass13 wrote: »

I don't remember suggesting a plumber could sign off the job. . And to vere away from death for a minute . When the connection that the sparks made to the water supply , tank or mains , decides to blow off and flood the house what happens then? When the insurance company looks for the sparks qualifications to carry out the plumbing work and he Dsnt have them who foots the bill?

Two seperate trades so get two seperate tradesmen and hey presto , job is done and not a single funeral to attend.

I didn't recommend that the OP let the sparky plumb it in either As far as I'm concerned, he should get in both, or preferably find a plumber that has a sparky on speed dial for installations such as these, which might reduce costs a bit.

Egass13

mike_ie wrote: »

I didn't recommend that the OP let the sparky plumb it in either As far as I'm concerned, he should get in both, or preferably find a plumber that has a sparky on speed dial for installations such as these, which might reduce costs a bit.

Sorry it was the other lad that suggested that !

scudo2

Egass13 wrote: »

I know scudo2, that's why I said about a sparks connecting to the consumer unit

Were friends now, just call me scudo




I'll never be scudo3 there a crap van !
Do Rolls Royce do van's--- I like that name and might sound more appropate!

Egass13

scudo2 wrote: »

Were friends now, just call me scudo




I'll never be scudo3 there a crap van !
Do Rolls Royce do van's--- I like that name and might sound more appropate!

Great , after exhausting every avenue there is I've finally found a friend !

Cycling Dumbasses

Egass13 wrote: »

Can a plumber not be a competent electrician ?

He can and if he is also a registered electrician he could do the electrical and plumbing, job sorted. Game over ball burst.