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What was Hart thinking!!!:rolleyes:

Duck Soup

Every time Souness says "Peter Cech" I die a little inside.

hullaballoo

Duck Soup wrote: »

Every time Souness says "Peter Cech" I die a little inside.

Ticky-tacky Arsenal. Lol.

fullstop

Too Tough To Die wrote: »

Don't have my rule book with me so i can't tell you the exact rule, but the rule that forbids players from doing the same would be a good start.

So he should get a yellow card? Grand.

niallo27

fullstop wrote: »

So he should get a yellow card? Grand.

Maybe a bit of respect for your fellow manager would not go a stray. It's a bit early in the season to be going that bonkers.

Darkglasses

Nowso wrote: »

Nastasic and de michelis are terrible not good enough

Nastasic needed to head the ball he let it bounce then headed it nowhere

What??

Both had a very solid game. Nastasic had it covered 100%, Joe should've stayed at his goal. Nastasic was comfortably able to knock it to him, Joe ran into no-mans land.

Washington Irving

Duck Soup wrote: »

Every time Souness says "Peter Cech" I die a little inside.

"If you're going to win the league this year you'll have to finish in front of these two" - Graeme Souness


What an insight.

Kirby

Lads.....his family was in the section of the crowd he jumped into. What the hell is wrong with you people? Is he not allowed celebrate?

Too Tough To Die

Kirby wrote: »

Lads.....his family was in the section of the crowd he jumped into. What the hell is wrong with you people? Is he not allowed celebrate?

They can celebrate at home with a pizza and a dvd.

niallo27

Kirby wrote: »

Lads.....his family was in the section of the crowd he jumped into. What the hell is wrong with you people? Is he not allowed celebrate?

He wasn't celebrating with his family though. Probably not a big deal just thought it was a bit over the top and attention seeking.

Hitchens

Kirby wrote: »

Lads.....his family was in the section of the crowd he jumped into. What the hell is wrong with you people? Is he not allowed celebrate?

you'd never see Alex Ferguson doin' that

GavRedKing

Draw was the fair result but id take 3points anyway they come.

DazMarz

Who got MOTM? Missed that bit...

gosplan

niallo27 wrote: »

Maybe a bit of respect for your fellow manager would not go a stray. It's a bit early in the season to be going that bonkers.

Come on. It's not like he came up behind him and gouged his eye or anything.

You stay classy Jose.

ShoulderChip

niallo27 wrote: »

He wasn't celebrating with his family though. Probably not a big deal just thought it was a bit over the top and attention seeking.

My reaction was far more over the top and I was in my living room on my own.

Darkglasses

Wait, so what happened? Did he not just go up and celebrate with the fans?

Turtwig

DazMarz wrote: »

Who got MOTM? Missed that bit...

Aguero.

Andersonisgod

Hitchens wrote: »

you'd never see Alex Ferguson doin' that

He'd never be able to get in or out of there.

Why does everything have to be so sterile? His Chelsea side have just won the biggest game of the season against, what is likely to be their biggest rivals for the title, in epic circumstances and he celebrated among his family who were among fellow Chelsea supporters.

Instead of chastising Mourinho, I think the amount of praise he deserves for that victory today and for Chelsea's season thus far is absolutely immense. He's quickly raising Chelsea to the next level, where they belong.

sReq | uTeK

Andersonisgod wrote: »

He'd never be able to get in or out of there.

Why does everything have to be so sterile? His Chelsea side have just won the biggest game of the season against, what is likely to be their biggest rivals for the title, in epic circumstances and he celebrated among his family who were among fellow Chelsea supporters.

Instead of chastising Mourinho, I think the amount of praise he deserves for that victory today and for Chelsea's season thus far is absolutely immense. He's quickly raising Chelsea to the next level, where they belong.

Lol...but would they bear barca.

sReq | uTeK

Andersonisgod wrote: »

The match winner today in the biggest game of the season so far says otherwise.

The top three clubs in England changed manager this season, they did this due to different reasons and circumstances, two got undoubtedly talented managers who'd overachieved at smaller clubs, one club got the best manager and when you have the best manager, even if you perhaps don't have the best squad on paper or the most experienced squad, you still have a chance. This evening, at Stamford Bridge, with Mourinho I'm amongst the public, his public, this was proper Chelsea, Chelsea as it should be, Chelsea rejuvenated.

Torres, Oscar, Lampard, Ramires, the whole back four, everyone playing together the Mourinho way. The stall has certainly been put out, the marker set and Chelsea are very real title contenders.

Dear god.

Schwiiing

Andersonisgod wrote: »

He'd never be able to get in or out of there.

Why does everything have to be so sterile? His Chelsea side have just won the biggest game of the season against, what is likely to be their biggest rivals for the title, in epic circumstances and he celebrated among his family who were among fellow Chelsea supporters.

Instead of chastising Mourinho, I think the amount of praise he deserves for that victory today and for Chelsea's season thus far is absolutely immense. He's quickly raising Chelsea to the next level, where they belong.

Like Barca's mind numbing 4 yard passing binges.

Andersonisgod

Schwiiing wrote: »

Like Barca's mind numbing 4 yard passing binges.

Obviously that's not the same thing, my point was very much in relation to what, at times seems to be, a determination to drive all emotion and spontaneity out of football.

bucketybuck

Its a very simple point though. A player will get sanctioned for jumping into the crowd, therefore the manager should be sanctioned also.

Hitchens

Andersonisgod wrote: »

I think the amount of praise he deserves for that victory today

praise for Hart's rush of blood? :eek:

Andersonisgod

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

Dear god.

It's no good typing two words and expecting that to be considered a counter argument of merit.

The_Kew_Tour

Andersonisgod wrote: »

He's quickly raising Chelsea to the next level, where they belong.

What gives Chelsea the right to at the top.?

Andersonisgod

Hitchens wrote: »

praise for Hart's rush of blood? :eek:

You can say "but it's only a mistake in the 90th minute that won Chelsea game" but what if Torres isn't on the pitch to convert that goal? What if Chelsea's defence aren't organised well enough and they concede before Willian has a chance to clear? What if Chelsea don't create or score any chances in the first half? What if Chelsea fall apart and concede 4 goals against City in the second half?

He deserves praise for making Chelsea entirely competitive and, in my opinion, better in the first half than a side who are considered the best in the league. His system, his absolute conviction that his way, the Mourinho way, is the right way deserves credit, he has absolute faith in his own ability and the kind of charisma, personality and levity to lift a squad beyond its regular limits. Along with Guardiola, this is the best manager in the world and, as a Chelsea fan, there's nobody else I'd rather at the helm.

Andersonisgod

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

What gives Chelsea the right to at the top.?

A squad filled with remarkably talented footballers, a squad with real leaders and winners in it, an infrastructure that is state of the art, a growing fanbase, a club fueled by a Russian oligarch with insatiable hunger and driven by the greatest manager in the world, one of the greatest managers that there has ever been.

EuropeanSon

Andersonisgod wrote: »

A squad filled with remarkably talented footballers, a squad with real leaders and winners in it, an infrastructure that is state of the art, a growing fanbase, a club fueled by a Russian oligarch with insatiable hunger and driven by the greatest manager in the world, one of the greatest managers that there has ever been.

I thought that was Pep? :rolleyes:

Andersonisgod

EuropeanSon wrote: »

I thought that was Pep? :rolleyes:

Tough to say which it is so I split it between the two for the sake of not causing a hassle, occasionally you'll see me refer to both as the best manager in the world, however now you will know that I rate both equally as highly. I do think that both are suited to different clubs and obviously their philosophies differ but I rate them on a level beyond all others.

gosplan

Andersonisgod wrote: »

this was proper Chelsea, Chelsea as it should be, Chelsea rejuvenated.

What a load of rubbish. Don't get me wrong. I give as much a toss about Chelsea as I do City, PSG or Anzhi but 'proper Chelsea, Chelsea as it should be' is the single league title in 100 years you had before the Russian.

The_Kew_Tour

Andersonisgod wrote: »

A squad filled with remarkably talented footballers, a squad with real leaders and winners in it, an infrastructure that is state of the art, a growing fanbase, a club fueled by a Russian oligarch with insatiable hunger and driven by the greatest manager in the world, one of the greatest managers that there has ever been.

BS

No team has the right to be at the top.

You earn that right.

ShoulderChip

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

BS

No team has the right to be at the top.

You earn that right.

how? what do you have to do?

gosplan

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

BS

No team has the right to be at the top.

You earn that right.

Extremely true. You belong wherever your results land you, just ask Leeds.

The_Kew_Tour

ShoulderChip wrote: »

how? what do you have to do?

You have to be top of the league after 38 games.

Fairly obvious.

EuropeanSon

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Tough to say which it is so I split it between the two for the sake of not causing a hassle, occasionally you'll see me refer to both as the best manager in the world, however now you will know that I rate both equally as highly. I do think that both are suited to different clubs and obviously their philosophies differ but I rate them on a level beyond all others.

Mad that the two teams you support would be strongly associated with the two managers in the world who are on a level beyond all others, isn't it?

Andersonisgod

gosplan wrote: »

What a load of rubbish. Don't get me wrong. I give as much a toss about Chelsea as I do City, PSG or Anzhi but 'proper Chelsea, Chelsea as it should be' is the single league title in 100 years you had before the Russian.

However since Abramovich took control over a decade ago the club has been on the same level with Man Utd as the most successful club in England in that period. Most of that success having been built on the squad, principles and philosophy that Mourinho first brought to the club. So yes, proper Chelsea, Chelsea as it should be this most certainly was because that was a vintage big game for Chelsea under Mourinho.

Andersonisgod

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

BS

No team has the right to be at the top.

You earn that right.

Obviously, surely that should go without saying? However given everything that I pointed out, the level which Chelsea should be at is where they are approaching now under Mourinho.

Turtyturd

Andersonisgod successfully makes himself the focal point of another match thread....that's the Mourinho way.

Andersonisgod

EuropeanSon wrote: »

Mad that the two teams you support would be strongly associated with the two managers in the world who are on a level beyond all others, isn't it?

Well I can't think of any other manager who is at their level. Of course that is merely my opinion, if you disagree then by all means highlight some names, argue a case for them. Unfortunately I must warn you that I wont be convinced, I fear that you will not be convinced either, therefore such an argument would be entirely pointless and would perhaps be better off not being had?

Andersonisgod

Turtyturd wrote: »

Andersonisgod successfully makes himself the focal point of another match thread....that's the Mourinho way.

I didn't quote my own posts and post two, three or four word responses to them, others did, I merely responded.

The_Kew_Tour

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Obviously, surely that should go without saying? However given everything that I pointed out, the level which Chelsea should be at is where they are approaching now under Mourinho.

I presume you mean champions?

Whoever wins the league will have deserved it be it Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Man City or whoever.

Nobody has a right to be top.

gosplan

Andersonisgod wrote: »

However since Abramovich took control over a decade ago the club has been on the same level with Man Utd as the most successful club in England in that period. Most of that success having been built on the squad, principles and philosophy that Mourinho first brought to the club. So yes, proper Chelsea, Chelsea as it should be this most certainly was because that was a vintage big game for Chelsea under Mourinho.

So proper Chelsea has only played 60 something home league games.

Yes, I see.

Andersonisgod

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I presume you mean champions?

Whoever wins the league will have deserved it be it Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Man City or whoever.

Nobody has a right to be top.

I don't, I actually mean being real, viable title contenders which, for the last couple of seasons, I don't think the club were. Do I think Chelsea will win the league this season? Yes, I do. Do I think they will have to earn the right to be champions? Yes I do.

tigger123

Great win today, thought the game was very very tight. Would have taken a draw before hand but delighted with the three points!

The_Kew_Tour

Andersonisgod wrote: »

I don't, I actually mean being real, viable title contenders which, for the last couple of seasons, I don't think the club were. Do I think Chelsea will win the league this season? Yes, I do. Do I think they will have to earn the right to be champions? Yes I do.

Thats fair enough then. Dont agree on the right to be there but see what you mean otherwise.

I do think Chelsea will be right there myself. Think today was a win they needed.

Andersonisgod

gosplan wrote: »

So proper Chelsea has only played 60 something home league games.

Yes, I see.

Obviously not as, post Mourinho, there were some stirring performances, however I'd argue that Mourinho's first reign and maybe the season and a half after his departure were Chelsea in their pomp and after that the standards slipped somewhat, suddenly those standards are being raised again.

gosplan

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Obviously not as, post Mourinho, there were some stirring performances, however I'd argue that Mourinho's first reign and maybe the season and a half after his departure were Chelsea in their pomp and after that the standards slipped somewhat, suddenly those standards are being raised again.

Do you not think it's a bit rediculous to say that there is a 'proper' image of Chelsea that conveniently involves the time after the spent half a billion rocketing the club to the top.

Could we not fill half a division with equally justified claims to belong at the top?

City, Utd, Liverpool, Leeds, Arsenal etc ...

Moneymaker

Why are people slating Jose for celebrating with the fans?

Seriously.

What's wrong with showing some passion and celebrating with the people who pay your wages? Don't see enough of it imo.

Andersonisgod

gosplan wrote: »

Do you not think it's a bit rediculous to say that there is a 'proper' image of Chelsea that conveniently involves the time after the spent half a billion rocketing the club to the top.

Could we not fill half a division with equally justified claims to belong at the top?

City, Utd, Liverpool, Leeds, Arsenal etc ...

To be honest if you want to make claims for a dozen clubs right to be at the top of the league then by all means do, I can assure you I wont stop you. My point, as I said a bit earlier is simple, with the quality of the squad at Chelsea this season, with the top class infrastructure of the club, with the backing of the powerful owner, a growing fanbase and being led by the best manager in the world I don't see why this club can't be at the top. I am not saying "Chelsea are great so give the title to Chelsea now" obviously the title is earned, any club that wins the league will have to earn it, I am saying that Chelsea have the resources to make them entirely capable of winning the league.