Arsenal V Chelsea, Capital 1 Cup, k/o 7.45pm

GavRedKing

Could be a decent game tonight in the cup, both teams will field a team with big chancges from the weekend for this game and it really is anyones game.

Probable Chelsea team to feature 10 changes from the City game on Sunday.

Schwarzer
Azp Cahill Luiz Bertrand
Essien Mikel
De Bruyne Mata Willian
Ba


Couldnt take a stab at the Arsenal team TBH.

Given how strong the players we have coming in, Arsenal would have to field a fairly strong team to win this I feel.

That being said I can see this going to extra time and Chelsea winning out in the end.

Arsenal 2 - 3 Chelsea (AET)

Fuzzy_Dunlop

For Arsenal, I'm gonna guess with something like:


Fabianksi
Jenkinson Sagna Vermaelen Monreal
Hayden Wilshere
Gnabry Cazorla Ryo
Bendtner

Drexel

GavRedKing wrote: »

Could be a decent game tonight in the cup, both teams will field a team with big chancges from the weekend for this game and it really is anyones game.

Probable Chelsea team to feature 10 changes from the City game on Sunday.

Schwarzer
Azp Cahill Luiz Bertrand
Essien Mikel
De Bruyne Mata Willian
Ba


Couldnt take a stab at the Arsenal team TBH.

Given how strong the players we have coming in, Arsenal would have to field a fairly strong team to win this I feel.

That being said I can see this going to extra time and Chelsea winning out in the end.

Arsenal 2 - 3 Chelsea (AET)

Thats a ridiculously strong 2nd team!! Chelsea must have the best second side in the PL.

From an Arsenal point of view we have to rest players which doesnt leave us with much quality through the team. Wont be too disappointed if we lose this tonight. 3 matches v Liverpool, Dortmund and United coming up in a row which are much more important to our season.

GavRedKing

jonny666 wrote: »

Thats a ridiculously strong 2nd team!! Chelsea must have the best second side in the PL.

From an Arsenal point of view we have to rest players which doesnt leave us with much quality through the team. Wont be too disappointed if we lose this tonight. 3 matches v Liverpool, Dortmund and United coming up in a row which are much more important to our season.

Ya its a good team and then there is a few on loan to come back for next year, hopefully.

We were blessed with beating Schalke in Germany as its taken a bit of pressure off in the UCL our next set of games is Newcastle (a) Schalke (h) WBA (h) West Ham (a) Basel (a) bringing us to the end of November so we can afford to rest a few for those upcoming games.

mike65

Chelsea have a ridiculous squad, then look at all the loan players scattered about the place and the best of their youth ranks.

GavRedKing

Its a brilliant problem but we wont be able to hold onto all of them.

As long as we keep Courtois and Lukaku they'll be the main ones.

Cech made 2 important saves against City in the game but could have done better for the Aguero goal.

duploelabs

Holding on to Courtois is the bigger of the two headaches

GavRedKing

duploelabs wrote: »

Holding on to Courtois is the bigger of the two headaches

He'll have two years left on his contract after this season so it really is a make or break situation, hes good enough to start but Cech the last 2 seasons has improved near enough to the levels he was before his skull fracture.

Theres also the possibilty that Courtois has no interest in returning to London and will stay in Madrid which would be a disaster as he'll be snapped up in a few years by a bigger club then Atletico eventually if that happens.

Awesomeness

If we had all our injured players available we would be able to field a much more competitive team. Even the youngsters that would normally play are injured.

Hopefully whoever plays can put on a good show and we get a good match

Pudders

GOing to this tonight. Some difference in ticket prices between this and the league match. Tells you all what the fans think of this.

Gringo180

Chelsea will have far too much for us tonight as there reserve team has much much more about them than ours, only way I can see us going through is via a penalty shootout.

wandatowell

Would love to go far in this as I think its Arsenal best chance of winning a trophy this season.


Chelsea's 2nd team is very very strong indeed.

I'm hoping home advantage is enough for Arsenal to win but I doubt it.

2-1 to the best 2nd team in the Prem.

Oranage2

Hoping for the best but expecting the worst


Chelsea have a ridiculous second team and I can't see wenger playing any first teamers.

3 nil to Chelsea :mad:

wandatowell

Oranage2 wrote: »

:mad:

About sums me up right now

Marty McFly

Looking forward to this game, do think Chelsea will be to strong for us. But always nice to see some the youths reserves get a run out to have a look at them.

Still hoping Gnabry will be given the all clear and raging Zelalem couldn't make it back in time to feature.

MaroonAndGreen

This is such a tough game to call, I think Chelsea will score goals tonight, our front 4 is going to be very good no matter who plays there! And they are likely to be facing a weakened Arsenal back 4.. so logically that = lots of scoring chances for Chelsea.

Really really want to see Kevin De Bruyne playing tonight too!

AdamD

Arsenal's defence will probably be the strong point in the team. Fabianski, Jenkinson, Vermaelen and Monreal will all start, wouldn't be surprised to see Kosc or Mert beside Vermaelen either.

AdamD

AdamD wrote: »

Arsenal's defence will probably be the strong point in the team. Fabianski, Jenkinson, Vermaelen and Monreal will all start, wouldn't be surprised to see Kosc or Mert beside Vermaelen either.

The midfield in front of it will probably has a massive influence on how the defence looks.

tayto lover

Deleted User wrote: »

The midfield in front of it will probably has a massive influence on how the defence looks.

Who will we have in midfield?

Frimpong, Rosicky, Eisfeld and Gnabry with Bendtner up front?

Awesomeness

tayto lover wrote: »

Who will we have in midfield?

Frimpong, Rosicky, Eisfeld and Gnabry with Bendtner up front?

Frimpong and Eisfield both injured.

Think Jack is set to start with Hayden and Rosicky. Probably Gnabry and Ryo on the flanks

tayto lover

Awesomeness wrote: »

Frimpong and Eisfield both injured.

Think Jack is set to start with Hayden and Rosicky. Probably Gnabry and Ryo on the flanks

We seem to have more injured than fit. What is wrong at Arsenal?

Crann na Beatha

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tayto lover

Interesting article on the teams Wenger has sent out for Carling Cup duty over the years. Many familiar names began their careers there.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/oct/29/arsenal-arsene-wenger-capital-one-cup

cson

Pudders wrote: »

GOing to this tonight. Some difference in ticket prices between this and the league match. Tells you all what the fans think of this.

Have to give Arsenal credit for their League Cup pricing; £10 for the ends and £20 for the stands all the way through (including the home semi final if you get that far).

Actual lol at Mourinho complaining about the turnaround time to this match from Sunday, as if his squad was stretched to the limit. :rolleyes:

Chelsea will win this and are great value @ ~11/8 imo.

MaxPower89

Str

Awesomeness

Strong team
Fabianski, Jenkinson, Vermaelen, Koscielny, Monreal, Ramsey, Wilshere, Rosicky, Cazorla, Ryo, Bendtner

iMuse

Arsenal team to play Chelsea: Fabianski, Jenkinson, Vermaelen, Koscielny, Monreal, Ramsey, Wilshere, Rosicky, Cazorla, Ryo, Bendtner

Arsenal subs: Viviano, Sagna, Hayden, Yennaris, Ozil, Giroud, Park

Chelsea team tonight: Schwarzer; Azpilicueta, Cahill, Luiz, Bertrand; Mikel, Essien; De Bruyne, Mata, Willian; Eto'o

Subs v Arsenal: Blackman, Ivanovic, Kalas, Ramires, Hazard, Torres, Ba

Awesomeness

Ozil and Giroud on bench too

Gringo180

I'm a lot more confident after seeing that team, but I would of liked to see Ramsey rested with young Hayden playing in the holding midfield role instead.

darego

Is Gnarby injured?

iMuse

darego wrote: »

Is Gnarby injured?

Yeah and so is Eisfeld

darego

Double post, stupid phone

Maire2009

Arsenal: Fabianski, Jenkinson, Vermaelen, Koscielny, Monreal, Ramsey, Wilshere, Rosicky, Cazorla, Ryo, Bendtner.

Lot stronger midfield that what I was expecting.

tayto lover

Madness putting first team players out with the challenges we have immediately ahead. Could backfire badly if we get more injuries. Don't know what Wenger is thinking.

Awesomeness

tayto lover wrote: »

Madness putting first team players out with the challenges we have immediately ahead. Could backfire badly if we get more injuries. Don't know what Wenger is thinking.

Ramsey wilshere and Santi but we do have other midfielders back soon too.

Obviously wants to give us a chance to win so now that its done hopefully we can follow through on that

GavRedKing

Chelsea XI: Schwarzer, Azpi, Cahill, Luiz, Bertrand, Mikel, Essien, KDB, Mata, Willian, Eto.

Bench : Blackman, Ivanovic, Kalas, Ramires, Hazard, Torres, Ba

Maire2009

tayto lover wrote: »

Madness putting first team players out with the challenges we have immediately ahead. Could backfire badly if we get more injuries. Don't know what Wenger is thinking.

My only shock is seeing Ramsey play - Wilshere probably won't start against Liverpool and Cazorla needs match time.

The forgotten Korean to come off the bench on 90mins and score the winner

.jacksparrow.

Ramsey and jack in the middle, I can see massive gaps between defence and midfield.

GavRedKing

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Ramsey and jack in the middle, I can see massive gaps between defence and midfield.

Hoping Mikel and Essien just sit and shield TBH neither have the ability to influence from deep like Ramires or Lamps.

gosplan

Maire2009 wrote: »

My only shock is seeing Ramsey play - Wilshere probably won't start against Liverpool and Cazorla needs match time.

The forgotten Korean to come off the bench on 90mins and score the winner

Yeah, Ramsey is an odd one, Kos too.

Reckon that Gnabry will be fit and go into starting team vrs Liverpool then.

Maire2009

gosplan wrote: »

Yeah, Ramsey is an odd one, Kos too.

Reckon that Gnabry will be fit and go into starting team vrs Liverpool then.

He was 50/50 on Gnabry so surprised he didn't make the squad, must have failed a fitness test, expect to see him Saturday though as you said, played really well when he came on at the weekend.

.jacksparrow.

Maire2009 wrote: »

He was 50/50 on Gnabry so surprised he didn't make the squad, must have failed a fitness test, expect to see him Saturday though as you said, played really well when he came on at the weekend.

Would have rosicky ahead of him Saturday though.

gosplan

Maire2009 wrote: »

He was 50/50 on Gnabry so surprised he didn't make the squad, must have failed a fitness test, expect to see him Saturday though as you said, played really well when he came on at the weekend.

Yup. Gave us an air of unpredictability. Don't think Liverpool has the best defence but if we play it over and back in front of them, they'll probably handle it. We need someone like Gnabry to run at them or get in behind.

Anyway, getting ahead of ourselves. Booooooo Chelsea BOOOOOO.

gosplan

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Would have rosicky ahead of him Saturday though.

On the weekend he won a penalty, borderline for another and hit the post.

Apart from Giroud's late goal that was by far the biggest contribution from an attacker.

I think Rosicky is better but if Ozil, Rambo and Cazorla are already on the pitch, Gnabry's the one to go with.

Drexel

Surprised with some of the arsenal team. Didn't think Ramsey or Kos would start. Will make more of a game of it. This cup
Usually throws up some good games so here's hoping for one tonight (and an Arsenal win )

GavRedKing

Decent start

GavRedKing

Whole ground could sing the Willian song ha :pac:

JPA

Any one do the maths on the cost of Chelsea's 2nd choice 11?

Drexel

Decent game so far. Arsenal looking to play on the break

IvySlayer

JPA wrote: »

Any one do the maths on the cost of Chelsea's 2nd choice 11?

7 champions league winners :pac:

Rayne Wooney

JPA wrote: »

Any one do the maths on the cost of Chelsea's 2nd choice 11?

£142,200,000