Letting your Child(U18) Store/Have a Gun in their Room

1shot16

Just wanted to know as a parent or if you were what would your prospective on this be?Is it right?Maybe rules being set etc.Me being 16 having one stored in my room parents dont mind too much but others such as friends find it not to be right.

Sparks

In general it sounds like a really really bad idea. I can think of exceptions (like keeping an air rifle without ammo in their room when dry firing if they're actually training heavily) so it's not an absolute rule, but those exceptions would be fairly esoteric and a case-by-case kind of thing. But I guess that's the way with these things...

1shot16

Sparks wrote: »

In general it sounds like a really really bad idea. I can think of exceptions (like keeping an air rifle without ammo in their room when dry firing if they're actually training heavily) so it's not an absolute rule, but those exceptions would be fairly esoteric and a case-by-case kind of thing. But I guess that's the way with these things...

Yeah ive a single shot air rifle but i do keep ammo i my room.

Cass

Just to sure i'm on the same page. If a child (under 18) owns a gun but their parents don't and they store the firearms in their room, you are asking if anyone would have a problem with this?

Or is it that the firearm is just in the room, not stored in a safe?


I didn't answer the poll as the third option is a non runner. No one, bar the licensee, should have access to the firearms. Ever. Parents or not.

1shot16

Cass wrote: »

Just to sure i'm on the same page. If a child (under 18) owns a gun but their parents don't and they store the firearms in their room, you are asking if anyone would have a problem with this?

Or is it that the firearm is just in the room, not stored in a safe?


I didn't answer the poll as the third option is a non runner. No one, bar the licensee, should have access to the firearms. Ever. Parents or not.

Im asking if you are or if you were a parent would you let your child store a gun in their room.I know but a one of my parent is a licensee so that doesnt apply to me.Its in a gun safe btw complying with the law

aaakev

No way

Is the teenager licenced to have the gun? If so i dont see the problem, if they can be teustwd with it outside no reason why thwy cant at home imo. Plus what cass said, if a parent is not licenced on the gun they cant go near it or have access to it

Cass

If my child had a gun/license and i did not then as long as they store it in the safe in their room i'd be fine.

If they just kept it in their room, no safe, then i'd be less happy.

Lastly to have a gun and safe in your parents house you need written consent from them as the home owners to store the gun in their home. So i'd assume anyone with a gun should have no problem with their parents as they would have gotten their blessing in this form before hand.

1shot16

aaakev wrote: »

Is the teenager licenced to have the gun? If so i dont see the problem, if they can be teustwd with it outside no reason why thwy cant at home imo. Plus what cass said, if a parent is not licenced on the gun they cant go near it or have access to it

True but some people find it "not right" and im like i dont see the problem maybe their parents would not allow so they would find it not right

Cass wrote: »

If my child had a gun/license and i did not then as long as they store it in the safe in their room i'd be fine.

If they just kept it in their room, no safe, then i'd be less happy.

Lastly to have a gun and safe in your parents house you need written consent from them as the home owners to store the gun in their home. So i'd assume anyone with a gun should have no problem with their parents as they would have gotten their blessing in this form before hand.

I got written consent to be able to apply for a firearm before hand.

Cass

1shot16 wrote: »

True but some people find it "not right" .................

M'eh.

Each to their own.

Witcher

Ask in After Hours:pac:

Cass

Jesus don't inflict that harm on the young lad. It'll turn into a thousand page monster so far removed from the original point that he won't recognise it.

1shot16

Blay wrote: »

Ask in After Hours:pac:

Id be getting a lot of stupid answers like why would a 16 year old have a gun and whats "a house" and that sorta carry on.. no everyone is mature you know :P

Cass wrote: »

Jesus don't inflict that harm on the young lad. It'll turn into a thousand page monster so far removed from the original point that he won't recognise it.

Yeah im only 16 like :pac:

deerhunter1

Yes but rules to be set(keys of safe given to parent at night)

1shot16 wrote: »

Im asking if you are or if you were a parent would you let your child store a gun in their room.I know but a one of my parent is a licensee so that doesnt apply to me.Its in a gun safe btw complying with the law

NO

1shot16

deerhunter1 wrote: »

NO

The polls up top

Any reasons why?too young?not right?

deerhunter1

Yes but rules to be set(keys of safe given to parent at night)

1shot16 wrote: »

The polls up top

Any reasons why?too young?not right?

Not with the pressures on young people today, and the consequences of it

1shot16

deerhunter1 wrote: »

Not with the pressures on young people today, and the consequences of it

Ill agree there is pressure on young people today but that does not go away when they are outside with the gun or the gun is stored in another room?

yellowlabrador

Yes but rules to be set(keys of safe given to parent at night)

teenagers are too impulsive. the child in question might be really mature and responsible but they might have friends round. Accidents can be avoided. Even as an adult, guns should be kept secure and separate from ammunition.

deerhunter1

Yes but rules to be set(keys of safe given to parent at night)

1shot16 wrote: »

Ill agree there is pressure on young people today but that does not go away when they are outside with the gun or the gun is stored in another room?

True but god forbid anything should happen, you will have done everything within reason to lessen the outcome, without watching them 24/7

German pointer

No way

If he or she is licensed by law to use carry and possess then it should not matter where the using carrying and possession takes place as long as it is lawfully done

bravestar

Why would anyone want to store a firearm in their bedroom? To be honest, I don't think some supers would be too impressed when the FO reports back to him.

I don't think the point has been raised yet but ill chime in with my experience. I've been involved in a lot of situations where things go bump in the night. People tend to grab what's at hand, grab their phone, give it three 9's and either barricade or go john Rambo on it and try clear the house with sticks, clubs, swords or whatever they have in their bedroom.

Forgetting the legal aspect of it, unless you are trained to do so, having a firearm in a high stress situation while groggy at 0 dark thirty hours with adrenalin surging and every part of your body pumping sweat is a bad idea.

While the legit firearm holder might be an absolutely upstanding young man or woman (or old for that matter) who normally wouldn't harm a fly, having a firearm close by when freeze, fight or flight kicks can be a receipe for disaster.

I'm not talking about castle doctrine or any crap like that, I'm talking about a basic human reaction to a potential unknown threat when caught completely off guard in your own home. People will react, not thinking off the consequences to what could be your langered brother making an arse of climbing in the window after losing his keys down the local.

So back to my original question, WHY would you keep a firearm in your bedroom?

Witcher

bravestar wrote: »

So back to my original question, WHY would you keep a firearm in your bedroom?

Nowhere else to put it except a bedroom. Anywhere else would be visible to casual visitors and I don't want that.

PickledLime

Yes but rules to be set(keys of safe given to parent at night)

Why would you keep a firearm full stop? Especially at age 16

Witcher

PickledLime wrote: »

Why would you keep a firearm full stop?

Exactly...why would ya's lads? You're all a disgrace:pac:

The Aussie

When I was growing up we had more than 13 firearms in the house at one stage, Mum said they were to be stored in the garage and that's how they were stored.

It's their house it's their rules, you want your own rules buy your own house.

aaakev

No way

PickledLime wrote: »

Why would you keep a firearm full stop? Especially at age 16

Thats like going to the soccer forum and asking why wpuld anyone want to have a ball!

Skatedude

Yes but rules to be set(keys of safe given to parent at night)

Er? not to many people have been killed by a football

skinnylizzy

Yes but rules to be set(keys of safe given to parent at night)

I would have to agree with The Aussie on this. It's their house, they make the rules and as long as the person in question is living under their roof, he/she should abide by their rules. If they were understanding enough and trusted their 16 year old enough to have a firearm in the first place, the least said 16 year old should do is respect their wishes on where the firearm is stored. The 16 year old can still take the firearm into their room to clean it and practise mounting it and such but maybe it's just for the parents 'peace of mind' that they know when the 16 year old has the firearm out of the safe and what he/she is doing with it.

aaakev

No way

Skatedude wrote: »

Er? not to many people have been killed by a football

Er, this is the shooting forum so my point is correct....

No one is talking about killing anyone ether...

Padd2

if its stored in a safe wouldnt the garda not advise you on whaere to have the safe ?
surely he called and inspected the location of the safe??

Moocow100

if its in a gun safe then no problem .

bravestar

Blay wrote: »

Nowhere else to put it except a bedroom. Anywhere else would be visible to casual visitors and I don't want that.

That's just being lazy. I have gone to considerable lengths for mine to be concealed completely, at little cost but with a lot of elbow grease and thought.