Sheep Photo Thread

greysides · 18-07-2014 9:44pm

rangler1 wrote: »

Thanks
We're in high molybdenum area area, so would always be conscious of copper deficiency, but every blood test I did proved negative and as you know have been concerned about lamb thrive here.
but against the advise, I gave them copper boluses at 10 weeks with their usual cobalt etc and I don't think I've ever had as good looking lambs. their wool and condition is unreal, so hopefully I've cracked the lamb thrive one.
Cattle always suffered from copper deficiency on the farm here

That was a brave move but it seems to have worked out. Just be aware there's a growth promoter effect of copper that can sway appearances.

jt65 · 18-07-2014 10:11pm

we have been giving a bolus containing copper to lambs and to ewes pre tupping for a number of years with no problems

far cleaner behinds even when on lush grass & as stated thrive & general appearance a lot better.

started giving to suffolk cos dosing wasn't helping loose dung

was a little apprehensive giving to rouge, texel & ch (when we had them) at first but after trying a few on trial , started using to all, with the exception of the early lambs who get creep

rangler1 · 18-07-2014 10:52pm

jt65 wrote: »

we have been giving a bolus containing copper to lambs and to ewes pre tupping for a number of years with no problems

far cleaner behinds even when on lush grass & as stated thrive & general appearance a lot better.

started giving to suffolk cos dosing wasn't helping loose dung

was a little apprehensive giving to rouge, texel & ch (when we had them) at first but after trying a few on trial , started using to all, with the exception of the early lambs who get creep

Like you I tried them on some texel ewes and ewe lambs last year

Green farmer · 22-07-2014 9:53am

rangler1 wrote: »

Like you I tried them on some texel ewes and ewe lambs last year

Price wise, how much are the bolus cost. I put mineral lock buckets out at different times of year, and drench a few times a year as well. I keep lambs moving with the drench

jt65 · 22-07-2014 9:58am

Green farmer wrote: »

Price wise, how much are the bolus cost. I put mineral lock buckets out at different times of year, and drench a few times a year as well. I keep lambs moving with the drench

I know you're asking rangler & I know he uses a different brand that we do , but just to compare

lamb 24/25c

ewe 50c

Green farmer · 22-07-2014 1:26pm

Thanks jt, is there a nack to giving the bolus, I've seem a tool they use but never tried it myself.

rangler1 · 22-07-2014 3:39pm

Green farmer wrote: »

Thanks jt, is there a nack to giving the bolus, I've seem a tool they use but never tried it myself.

I use ANIMAX, costing about €1.70/lamb or ewe, for the three boluses.
boluses are very big and hard to administer, but you can give the three at the one dose and they're supposed to last six mths

Green farmer · 22-07-2014 3:50pm

I suppose the big thing is the labour saving aspect once a year as opposed to drenching them every now and again.

jt65 · 22-07-2014 9:16pm

I use Mayo Health Care,

last up to 8 weeks

much smaller than Animex & find easier to give to young lambs,

ewes are done about 3 weeks before tupping and again 3 weeks before expected lambing date

have used animex in the past but difficult to source locally and rep from cahl doesn't call any more

rangler1 · 23-07-2014 8:13am

Some of you were wondering what the Lleyn were like for the factory
Here's our load for tomorrow
2014-07-22 16.45.21.jpg

greysides · 23-07-2014 8:41am

Some of those will grade well.

Green farmer · 23-07-2014 9:01am

What weight do you send those off at rangler ?

jt65 · 23-07-2014 9:23am

rangler1 wrote: »

Some of you were wondering what the Lleyn were like for the factory
Here's our load for tomorrow
2014-07-22 16.45.21.jpg

is there a fair bit of texel in a lot of them? as they are far better than a lot of L l I have seen

in any event they are a super batch of sheep

arctictree · 23-07-2014 10:28am

rangler1 wrote: »

Some of you were wondering what the Lleyn were like for the factory
Here's our load for tomorrow
2014-07-22 16.45.21.jpg

Are they PB Lleyn? Talk around here is that the pure breds are normally a couple of weeks behind the crosses. I see that in my own flock too.

rangler1 · 23-07-2014 9:13pm

arctictree wrote: »

Are they PB Lleyn? Talk around here is that the pure breds are normally a couple of weeks behind the crosses. I see that in my own flock too.

No, their mothers are 25%Lleyn 75% texel so the lambs are probably approx. 65% Lleyn as the sire is Lleyn.
Those lambs are 43 - 46kgs

Green farmer · 23-07-2014 10:14pm

Would you be using the llyen rams for producing female lambs as breeding stock, being 65 % llyen. And would you also run terminal rams with the main flock for butchers lambs. I think you told us before about the your venders rams.

rangler1 · 23-07-2014 10:25pm

Green farmer wrote: »

Would you be using the llyen rams for producing female lambs as breeding stock, being 65 % llyen. And would you also run terminal rams with the main flock for butchers lambs. I think you told us before about the your venders rams.

I use Llyen rams to breed replacements on a third of the ewes and vendeen as a terminal sire on two thirds.
but I eventually get to a stage that all the ewes are out of the Lleyn rams, then I change to using texel to breed replacements iykwim
I don't want to get too pure with either Lleyn or texel in the breeding ewes
The lambs in the picture are castrated males

aneala · 25-07-2014 9:56pm

rangler1 wrote: »

Some of you were wondering what the Lleyn were like for the factory
Here's our load for tomorrow
2014-07-22 16.45.21.jpg

mmmm.....TASTY

rangler1 · 28-07-2014 7:20pm

rangler1 wrote: »

Some of you were wondering what the Lleyn were like for the factory
Here's our load for tomorrow
2014-07-22 16.45.21.jpg

Got the cheque today
44.4kg live weight.
20.2 dw
price €96.79

sea12 · 28-07-2014 8:31pm

rangler1 wrote: »

Got the cheque today
44.4kg live weight.
20.2 dw
price €96.79

Shows how hard it is to get over the 100 euro even for top quality lambs like that. Have you ever calculated how much weight they lose in transportation rangler.

rangler1 · 28-07-2014 10:03pm

sea12 wrote: »

Shows how hard it is to get over the 100 euro even for top quality lambs like that. Have you ever calculated how much weight they lose in transportation rangler.

Those lambs would have been in overnight as well, so it's as well not to think about it, also €2 transport cost.( 10c/kg)..... the killout was a bit disappointing, probably leave the lleyns a bit heavier from now on.
Price averaged €4.79/kg which was good for that week

Green farmer · 28-07-2014 10:18pm

I'd often weight the lambs at 8.00 in the morning when putting a lot together . arrive at the mart for 11.00 and think someone was trying to pull the wool over my eyes as they'd be a good bit lighter, either that or thinking my weighting scales was way out.

sako 85 · 01-08-2014 8:31am

I've a few recent sheep photos uploaded to flickr, I tried to paste in the links to a post but because I'm a 'new' member I'm not allowed, what's the story with that?

Nekarsulm · 01-08-2014 8:41am

sako 85 wrote: »

I've a few recent sheep photos uploaded to flickr, I tried to paste in the links to a post but because I'm a 'new' member I'm not allowed, what's the story with that?

I "think" you need 50 posts before you can add links, etc.

sako 85 · 01-08-2014 8:58am

This post will get me up to 50 so and i'll try again

sako 85 · 01-08-2014 9:06am

Some recent sheep photos, I hope it works, let me know.

New Suffolk ram lamb purchased this Wednesday

https://flic.kr/p/ogk29Y

https://flic.kr/p/ogkvVK

Ewes at dipping

https://flic.kr/p/oxxsnM

https://flic.kr/p/ogjvry

Some crossbred ewes for sponging

https://flic.kr/p/ogjZmj

Cheviot ewe lambs

https://flic.kr/p/ogkupP

jt65 · 01-08-2014 9:15am

sako 85 wrote: »

Some recent sheep photos, I hope it works, let me know.

New Suffolk ram lamb purchased this Wednesday

https://flic.kr/p/ogk29Y

https://flic.kr/p/ogkvVK

Ewes at dipping

https://flic.kr/p/oxxsnM

https://flic.kr/p/ogjvry

Some crossbred ewes for sponging

https://flic.kr/p/ogjZmj

Cheviot ewe lambs

https://flic.kr/p/ogkupP

good work "

wouldn't mind getting a few crossbred ewe lambs off you ,

AntrimGlens · 01-08-2014 9:48am

sako 85 wrote: »

Some recent sheep photos, I hope it works, let me know.

New Suffolk ram lamb purchased this Wednesday

https://flic.kr/p/ogk29Y

https://flic.kr/p/ogkvVK

Ewes at dipping

https://flic.kr/p/oxxsnM

https://flic.kr/p/ogjvry

Some crossbred ewes for sponging

https://flic.kr/p/ogjZmj

Cheviot ewe lambs

https://flic.kr/p/ogkupP

Nice looking stock there sako, ewe lambs are a right good size, they'd make serious dough round here for the hill men can't get cheviot ewe lambs for love or money. There's a local man here sells cast and four yr old wicklow cheviot ewes here every year and would be getting £150-£160 for them. Used to be a lot of men would have went to Blessington, but don't hear of so many heading down that way now. Super sheep in fairness, although never tried the cheviot myself.

Would they be prolific to the suffolk, always heard that you'd struggle to get beyond 1.5 lambs - any truth in this?

sako 85 · 01-08-2014 9:55am

Thanks for the kind words AntrimGlens, I often seen men from your neck of the woods with large lorries in both Blessington and Baltinglass purchasing large numbers of Cheviot hoggets and Ewe lambs, good Cheviot hoggets in Blessington would average €160. Ours Cheviots (to either a cheviot ram or Suffolk) would normally do a little better than 1.5. We put the Cheviot Suffolk cross ewes to a Texel ram and they would normally scan around 1.7.

arctictree · 01-08-2014 9:58am

AntrimGlens wrote: »

Nice looking stock there sako, ewe lambs are a right good size, they'd make serious dough round here for the hill men can't get cheviot ewe lambs for love or money. There's a local man here sells cast and four yr old wicklow cheviot ewes here every year and would be getting £150-£160 for them. Used to be a lot of men would have went to Blessington, but don't hear of so many heading down that way now. Super sheep in fairness, although never tried the cheviot myself.

Would they be prolific to the suffolk, always heard that you'd struggle to get beyond 1.5 lambs - any truth in this?

Sorry to jump in here. I have some Cheviot/Lleyn ewe lambs due to a Cheviot ram breaking into my PB Llyens. They have turned out very well. Healthy lambs with good weight on them. Thinking of keeping them for breeding.

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