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Why do Irish People stand on escalators in such an arsed-way manner?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    anncoates wrote: »
    Was that the one that started when that lad from Franz Ferdinand got bumped off?

    Yes - he had a piss on an escalator - they say he had Irish in him.


  • Posts: 0 Harper Petite Fig


    Katya wrote: »
    There is no escalator ethic in Ireland that I'm aware of. Yes other countries have it and I'd abide by their rules but I've never come across anywhere in Ireland that had the same volume of users as London or Paris. Op what's your hurry....

    Don't know about OP, but I often have to rush to hospital appointments after work, so am often in a hurry in the evening. I'm a teacher, so absolutely have to be in work on time in the morning or risk losing my job. If the train is delayed, then I have to rush to get there. Plenty of legit reasons to be in a hurry other than thinking you're important.

    People who stand still and block the whole escalator are idiots, IMO. Why would you do that? You can stand to one side, no problem, and let people past who might have places to be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Don't know about OP, but I often have to rush to hospital appointments after work, so am often in a hurry in the evening. I'm a teacher, so absolutely have to be in work on time in the morning or risk losing my job. If the train is delayed, then I have to rush to get there. Plenty of legit reasons to be in a hurry other than thinking you're important.

    People who stand still and block the whole escalator are idiots, IMO. Why would you do that? You can stand to one side, no problem, and let people past who might have places to be.

    That is not great time management if getting to a place on time is so reliant on the whim of another person - I'd say walking up an escalator versus not, saves about 10 to 20 seconds.

    That is like saying it is so inconsiderate for a traffic light to hold me up, because - I am a teacher. It is a bit dangerous to walk up a moving object - you could have children with you too.

    You leave on time with extra. People are not being inconsiderate if they are not meeting your ideal of a social norm. There is no sign or rule in Ireland on this.

    How many teachers have a) lost their job over escalator incidents
    b) lost their job over timekeeping.

    So, no need for alarmist panic. In Ireland we don't stand to the side - deal with it , or start a public education on it - by media tv etc.

    But guess what, it is number 1,000,001 on list.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    It really bugs the shit out of me :(

    People standing left and right and all over the place meaning I have to stand too, lest I just barge straight through the crowd of stupid ignorant fucks.

    A justified rant. Bugs the hell out of me too, although I'm getting used to it now since returning from an extended stay in London where they know how to behave/stand on an escalator. Maybe the reason for peoples ignorance here is that 'relatively speaking' escalators are a new thing (compared to London) for example, and I suppose the same could be said of motorway manners here which have still to catch up with Britain & the rest of Europe. Driving slowly in the outside lane comes to mind :))


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭General General


    It's their culture.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Don't know about OP, but I often have to rush to hospital appointments after work, so am often in a hurry in the evening. I'm a teacher, so absolutely have to be in work on time in the morning or risk losing my job. If the train is delayed, then I have to rush to get there. Plenty of legit reasons to be in a hurry other than thinking you're important.

    People who stand still and block the whole escalator are idiots, IMO. Why would you do that? You can stand to one side, no problem, and let people past who might have places to be.
    So because your train is late people that block your path are to blame :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭Carlos Orange


    No, because it's a stupid thing to do and really annoys normal people
    People who stand still and block the whole escalator are idiots, IMO. Why would you do that?

    People who don't plan their journeys properly and leave enough time to travel are idiots. Why would you do that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    It's their culture.

    What's who's culture? you mean standing arsed-way on an escalator?

    Great expression OP :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Cody Pomeray


    No, but I don't judge those who do
    LordSutch wrote: »
    What's who's culture?
    Unionists.

    Go on, lets see how you can make this a thread about unionism....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Unionism?

    Maybe thay stand in the middle?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Cody Pomeray


    No, but I don't judge those who do
    LordSutch wrote: »
    Unionism?

    Do you have any opinions on the subject?

    I haven;t noticed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Yeah, post #57.

    What's the unionism thing about escalators?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    psinno wrote: »
    People who don't plan their journeys properly and leave enough time to travel are idiots. Why would you do that?

    Yes - running through late with their lattes - "Like, Oh My God, The Barista was so Jammed, I'm late for class / an important meeting " - "sorry, my CFD is so ****ed due to this escalator"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭Eutow


    That is not great time management if getting to a place on time is so reliant on the whim of another person - I'd say walking up an escalator versus not, saves about 10 to 20 seconds.

    That is like saying it is so inconsiderate for a traffic light to hold me up, because - I am a teacher. It is a bit dangerous to walk up a moving object - you could have children with you too.

    You leave on time with extra. People are not being inconsiderate if they are not meeting your ideal of a social norm. There is no sign or rule in Ireland on this.

    How many teachers have a) lost their job over escalator incidents
    b) lost their job over timekeeping.

    So, no need for alarmist panic. In Ireland we don't stand to the side - deal with it , or start a public education on it - by media tv etc.

    But guess what, it is number 1,000,001 on list.

    Those 10 or 20 seconds can be the difference between getting your bus or train, or missing your bus or train and having to wait 20 - 30 minutes for another one. People should stand to one side, it's quite simple to do, and it shows some consideration to others that want to pass on the other side.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Cody Pomeray


    No, but I don't judge those who do
    LordSutch wrote: »
    Yeah post #57.

    What's the unionism thing about escalators?
    I'm sure post #57 says enough.

    Do you ever get bored of this silliness?

    LordSutch wrote: »
    A justified rant. Bugs the hell out of me too, although I'm getting used to it now since returning from an extended stay in London where they know how to behave/stand on an escalator. Maybe the reason for peoples ignorance here is that 'relatively speaking' escalators are a new thing (compared to London) for example, and I suppose the same could be said of motorway manners here which have still to catch up with Britain & the rest of Europe. Driving slowly in the outside lane comes to mind :))


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    I'm sure post #57 says enough.

    Do you ever get bored of this silliness?

    Well the OP thought this thread was worth starting, and I agree with him!

    Not sure its sillyness to stand on one side or the other :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Eutow wrote: »
    Those 10 or 20 seconds can be the difference between getting your bus or train, or missing your bus or train and having to wait 20 - 30 minutes for another one. People should stand to one side, it's quite simple to do, and it shows some consideration to others that want to pass on the other side.

    But if a person's time management is so poor - it could be a traffic light, a rainy day, ice on the road. A person like that will find any excuse for being late.

    How do they time the traffic lights - or perhaps they are the type that just cross the road in front cars too - all them, me, me, me - oh I have time for me latte.

    If people are running around like headless chickens - with 10 and 20 seconds in the mix. Why should the whole world change, cause they can't get out of bed. You are in Dublin - it is not Tokyo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Mr.S wrote: »
    Because they aren't really common here! Compared to say London where everyone uses them 34830438 times a day, and you'll be shot if you don't stand on the right / walk on the left.

    I get annoyed if people stand in the middle and don't move, pick a side and let others pass!

    No - go to London.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Cody Pomeray


    No, but I don't judge those who do
    LordSutch wrote: »
    Well the OP thought this thread was worth starting, and I agree with him!

    Not sure its sillyness to stand on one side or the other :rolleyes:
    Are you playing dumb?

    I'm pretty sure everyone knows the theme of your posts, as rehashed in your latest 'when I was in London', offering. spare us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Are you playing dumb?

    I'm pretty sure everyone knows the theme of your posts, as rehashed in your latest 'when I was in London', offering. spare us.

    London has escalators :confused:

    Leave the vino alone, stop trying to engineer an argument, and go to bed.

    I'm off now, so Good Night.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭Eutow


    But if a person's time management is so poor - it could be a traffic light, a rainy day, ice on the road. A person like that will find any excuse for being late.

    How do they time the traffic lights - or perhaps they are the type that just cross the road in front cars too - all them, me, me, me - oh I have time for me latte.

    If people are running around like headless chickens - with 10 and 20 seconds in the mix. Why should the whole world change, cause they can't get out of bed. You are in Dublin - it is not Tokyo.

    Standing to one side doesn't take much effort, it's not world changing. It shows consideration to others around you in a public place. The world doesn't revolve around people that want to walk up the escalator, AND those that want to stand on the escalator.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 108 ✭✭Compu Global Hyper Meganet


    No, but I don't judge those who do
    But if a person's time management is so poor - it could be a traffic light, a rainy day, ice on the road. A person like that will find any excuse for being late.

    How do they time the traffic lights - or perhaps they are the type that just cross the road in front cars too - all them, me, me, me - oh I have time for me latte.

    If people are running around like headless chickens - with 10 and 20 seconds in the mix. Why should the whole world change, cause they can't get out of bed. You are in Dublin - it is not Tokyo.

    But why not just stand to one side? It doesn't take any effort and it shows a little bit of consideration. Time management is neither here nor there. Do you also stay stubbornly in front of an ambulance with sirens blaring on the dual carriageway or do you pull in ever so slightly? Likewise, just move 2 inches to the right/left on an escalator. How hard can that be?


  • Posts: 0 Harper Petite Fig


    That is not great time management if getting to a place on time is so reliant on the whim of another person - I'd say walking up an escalator versus not, saves about 10 to 20 seconds.

    That is like saying it is so inconsiderate for a traffic light to hold me up, because - I am a teacher. It is a bit dangerous to walk up a moving object - you could have children with you too.

    You leave on time with extra. People are not being inconsiderate if they are not meeting your ideal of a social norm. There is no sign or rule in Ireland on this.

    How many teachers have a) lost their job over escalator incidents
    b) lost their job over timekeeping.

    So, no need for alarmist panic. In Ireland we don't stand to the side - deal with it , or start a public education on it - by media tv etc.

    But guess what, it is number 1,000,001 on list.

    Guess what - sometimes people are late through no fault of their own. I make the latest appointment I can at the hospital, but I can't leave work early, so the timing is always quite tight. If something comes up such as a student needing to see me urgently, the trains being delayed or whatever, there's not a lot I can do except rush. A lot of people need to travel around the city for work - they can't do much about appointment times they're given by management/clients.

    Perhaps you need to realise that not everyone has as much time on their hands as you do. What difference does it make to you to stand aside and let someone walk past you? None whatsoever. So why would you be selfish enough to stand in someone's way?
    Sam Kade wrote: »
    So because your train is late people that block your path are to blame :rolleyes:

    No, they're not to blame for the train being late, they're to blame if I miss the next train because their waddling ignorant arse is just so important that everyone else can wait.
    psinno wrote: »
    People who don't plan their journeys properly and leave enough time to travel are idiots. Why would you do that?

    As I said above, sometimes you can't help tight scheduling. Plus sh1t happens that you can't reasonably predict. Nobody in their right mind is going to leave the house at 5am every day just in case the Tube has problems.

    It's ridiculous that some people consider it rude to expect people to move aside for you when you're in a hurry. Don't you think it's much more selfish to hold people up when it would take only the TINIEST amount of consideration not to do so? Why would you force everyone else to move at your pace? Selfish.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Cody Pomeray


    No, but I don't judge those who do
    LordSutch wrote: »
    London has escalators :confused:

    Leave the vino alone, stop trying to enginer an argument, and go to bed.
    I have, it's still breathing away.

    Standing to one side is not a "Britain" thing, it's a London thing. There are plenty of places in Britain which conform to the Irish standard in such matters.

    All you're doing here is raising a familiar British-Irish theme to your posts, all I'm asking is whether you never get tired of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Eutow wrote: »
    Standing to one side doesn't take much effort, it's not world changing. It shows consideration to others around you in a public place. The world doesn't revolve around people that want to walk up the escalator, AND those that want to stand on the escalator.

    But the escalator does revolve around the minor amount that want to change to upset the majority (see poll)

    Us Irish are going to be world leader on this turning point in history.

    Hey - a few lost teachers a few cups of coffee will fall, but the escalator will keep turning. That meeting you never got to - or were 20 seconds late for.

    Anyway - people who want everybody to get out of there way to get a coffee have issue - the majority are standing their ground and not for turning. Till they have to mind their step at the end of escalator.

    We wont rise or descend to their level. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    I have, it's still breathing away.

    Standing to one side is not a "Britain" thing, it's a London thing. There are plenty of places in Britain which conform to the Irish standard in such matters.

    I did say LONDON :confused:

    Somebody else mentioned the Netherlands, and somebody else mentioned Airport escalators!

    HAPPY ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭cerastes


    I think it stems from a reality that we are typically not from an urban environment.

    These rules tend to develop out of a necessity - if you look at Dublin - It is a city - but, very rare is anything crowed to the same level of the examples you will mention. Like London - Germany.

    There is also a cultural aspect.

    You could make the same comparisons and frustrations with other cultures from an Irish perspective. We get things done quicker in restaurants and pubs here, we don't sleep in the middle of the day. In London people do not engage in chat with fellow travellers. In Ireland , you can chat to anybody and not be an odd ball. I sort of like the unorganised social interactions and lack of rules of the Irish - it is annoying sometimes - but it also provides a freedom of expression and concepts.

    In fairness , all these lads in a rush around everywhere , thinking they are in a rush to a big important meeting. It isn't really.

    Hang on a minute, didnt they lose the war???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Cody Pomeray


    No, but I don't judge those who do
    LordSutch wrote: »
    I did say LONDON :confused:
    .
    LordSutch wrote: »
    I suppose the same could be said of motorway manners here which have still to catch up with Britain & the rest of Europe..
    Presumably "the same" refers to escalator etiquette.

    Hope we aren't keeping you waiting.

    http://www.ryanair.com/ie


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Hit a nerve have we? Yes, I Don't like drivers going slowly in the outside lane!

    This is a common and well known theme, which has been raised by Pat Kenny, Conor Faughnan (AA Ireland), and has been referenced dozens of times on boards.ie.

    PS; They can't all be Unionists ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Guess what - sometimes people are late through no fault of their own. I make the latest appointment I can at the hospital, but I can't leave work early, so the timing is always quite tight. If something comes up such as a student needing to see me urgently, the trains being delayed or whatever, there's not a lot I can do except rush. A lot of people need to travel around the city for work - they can't do much about appointment times they're given by management/clients.

    Perhaps you need to realise that not everyone has as much time on their hands as you do. What difference does it make to you to stand aside and let someone walk past you? None whatsoever. So why would you be selfish enough to stand in someone's way?



    No, they're not to blame for the train being late, they're to blame if I miss the next train because their waddling ignorant arse is just so important that everyone else can wait.



    As I said above, sometimes you can't help tight scheduling. Plus sh1t happens that you can't reasonably predict. Nobody in their right mind is going to leave the house at 5am every day just in case the Tube has problems.

    It's ridiculous that some people consider it rude to expect people to move aside for you when you're in a hurry. Don't you think it's much more selfish to hold people up when it would take only the TINIEST amount of consideration not to do so? Why would you force everyone else to move at your pace? Selfish.


    You've got this all wrong - your expecting everybody (The Majority) to move at your will - sorry , your not dealing with your students.

    Anyway - how do you know how much time I have on my hands - All I will say, is you wouldn't make it to work at all without me :)

    BTW - how you deal with tight schedules is by managing your time and others - you are doing it all wrong if you need 100s of people to stand to the side for you - you wouldn't last a millisecond with that attitude in my workplace.


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  • Posts: 0 Harper Petite Fig


    But the escalator does revolve around the minor amount that want to change to upset the majority (see poll)

    Us Irish are going to be world leader on this turning point in history.

    Hey - a few lost teachers a few cups of coffee will fall, but the escalator will keep turning. That meeting you never got to - or were 20 seconds late for.

    Anyway - people who want everybody to get out of there way to get a coffee have issue - the majority are standing their ground and not for turning. Till they have to mind their step at the end of escalator.

    We wont rise or descend to their level. :)

    Yeah, cos everyone is in a hurry because they wanted a lie-in and now they're running for a latte. :rolleyes: No other possible reason. It's quite hard for you to imagine someone living a different kind of life to yours, isn't it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade





    No, they're not to blame for the train being late, they're to blame if I miss the next train because their waddling ignorant arse is just so important that everyone else can wait.

    I said your train was late but you blame people who block your path instead ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭Eutow


    But the escalator does revolve around the minor amount that want to change to upset the majority (see poll)

    Us Irish are going to be world leader on this turning point in history.

    Hey - a few lost teachers a few cups of coffee will fall, but the escalator will keep turning. That meeting you never got to - or were 20 seconds late for.

    Anyway - people who want everybody to get out of there way to get a coffee have issue - the majority are standing their ground and not for turning. Till they have to mind their step at the end of escalator.

    We wont rise or descend to their level. :)


    The wording of the poll is a bit stupid. The question - "do you stand on escalators" - is a bit vague. All of us have, even those of us that walk up them, will stand still on them occasionally. If the questions were worded differently the results would be different I would hope.

    I think it's rude to block other people that might be in a hurry, for whatever reason that may be, unfortunately, there seems to be a lot of rude people that like to block others.

    I don't know why you keep mentioning coffee, I though tea was the beverage of choice in Ireland - besides beer. :)


  • Posts: 0 Harper Petite Fig


    You've got this all wrong - your expecting everybody (The Majority) to move at your will - sorry , your not dealing with your students.

    Anyway - how do you know how much time I have on my hands - All I will say, is you wouldn't make it to work at all without me :)

    BTW - how you deal with tight schedules is by managing your time and others - you are doing it all wrong if you need 100s of people to stand to the side for you - you wouldn't last a millisecond with that attitude in my workplace.

    Perhaps in the arse end of Ireland, yes. In London, it's thankfully the minority who are ignorant and selfish enough to expect other people to move at their leisurely pace while they look at their smartphones and stop at the top of the escalator to gawk slack-jawed at the information boards.

    You really need to get out now and again. Not everyone has your lifestyle and your schedule.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,061 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    I regularly pop back over to The Netherlands to see friends having lived there for a while, and in Schiphol Airport and Dutch Train Stations etc, people stand one side and walk the other and to do otherwise will peg you as a stupid fool and an idiot

    Your poll is silly. It sounds like a fourteen year old visited her/his auntie abroad and came back enraged.

    If you popped a here there and everywhere a bit more you'd realise that things are different wherever you go and the norm in one place may not be the norm elsewhere. You're well seasoned travel experienced and self importance can be mistaken (or reasonably) confused with rudeness or cockyness.

    Just cause you have been somewhere, saw something, thought it was marvelous and made certain people look incredibly important... doesn't mean it's cool to do it everywhere.

    Check out the locals, see what the lay of the land is and calm down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Yeah, cos everyone is in a hurry because they wanted a lie-in and now they're running for a latte. :rolleyes: No other possible reason. It's quite hard for you to imagine someone living a different kind of life to yours, isn't it?

    Look - it is ok to be wrong - if you need 10 to 15 seconds to get to a place on time - you are on the wrong train - simples. You need to know your city and route , were you live, the people in it.

    No point in trying to blame everybody - me, the world, the train , the roll eyes.


    Wrong train.


  • Posts: 0 Harper Petite Fig


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    I said your train was late but you blame people who block your path instead ;)

    Yeah and I explained that for you. Try reading it again...and again...


  • Posts: 0 Harper Petite Fig


    Look - it is ok to be wrong - if you need 10 to 15 seconds to get to a place on time - you are on the wrong train - simples. You need to know your city and route , were you live, the people in it.

    No point in trying to blame everybody - me, the world, the train , the roll eyes.


    Wrong train.

    If my hospital appointment overruns, I can either run down the escalator and catch the train I wanted, or I'll have to wait 30+ minutes for the next one. Why should I lose that half an hour because you decided you were so important that everyone behind you could just wait?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Yeah, cos everyone is in a hurry because they wanted a lie-in and now they're running for a latte. :rolleyes: No other possible reason. It's quite hard for you to imagine someone living a different kind of life to yours, isn't it?

    BTW - I'm not joking here - I'd say that is 90 % of them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    If my hospital appointment overruns, I can either run down the escalator and catch the train I wanted, or I'll have to wait 30+ minutes for the next one. Why should I lose that half an hour because you decided you were so important that everyone behind you could just wait?

    If you are telling me - teachers would not get off for a hospital appointment - I'll eat my hat. I'll stop debating with you anyway.

    But - earlier train.


  • Posts: 0 Harper Petite Fig


    BTW - I'm not joking here - I'd say that is 90 % of them.

    In your seemingly small world, maybe. Certainly not in mine. There are thousands of reasons someone could be rushing somewhere that don't involve anything as superficial as a latte. That's why I make that little tiny bit of effort not to hold them up and make their day even worse. It's called consideration. It doesn't cost you anything and it doesn't inconvenience you at all. Try it.


  • Posts: 0 Harper Petite Fig


    If you are telling me - teachers would not get off for a hospital appointment - I'll eat my hat. I'll stop debating with you anyway.

    But - earlier train.

    I don't get paid when I'm not there. I can't afford to take two afternoons off a week. What do you mean, earlier train? It's not that hard to understand.

    Train is at 18.30. Hospital appt should have finished at 18.15, but an emergency came in and they had priority. I can just about make my train still if I run down the escalator. Oh wait, there's a fat American tourist standing there and he ignores me saying 'excuse me'. So I've missed the train and now I have to stand on a platform, feeling like sh1t, for another half an hour. Because someone couldn't move a few inches to the right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,399 ✭✭✭✭r3nu4l


    Sigourney wrote: »
    In England, you stand on the right.

    Sorry, typo. Having worked in London and used the tube on a daily basis for a couple of years I wouldn't have lasted long standing on the left :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    John_Rambo wrote: »
    Your poll is silly. It sounds like a fourteen year old visited her/his auntie abroad and came back enraged.

    Just cause you have been somewhere, saw something, thought it was marvelous and made certain people look incredibly important... doesn't mean it's cool to do it everywhere.

    Indeed, although its just that if you travel to different places on the map you will find a certain logic, wherby people all stand on one side or the other, so that people in a hurry can get by. Of course we don't have to abide by that logic here, but once youve experienced it abroad its funny coming back home to see our system, or 'non-system' as some might see it :))

    Its only trivia, so lets not get too hung up over it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    In your seemingly small world, maybe. Certainly not in mine. There are thousands of reasons someone could be rushing somewhere that don't involve anything as superficial as a latte. That's why I make that little tiny bit of effort not to hold them up and make their day even worse. It's called consideration. It doesn't cost you anything and it doesn't inconvenience you at all. Try it.

    BTW - I would never block someone myself - but I would defend the principle.
    There is a puritanical nature to your posts. I honestly think you can't apply your training as a teacher to the real world.

    If you were in Africa - would you expect all the locals to behave in a way that you felt would meet the needs of you.

    As another poster said - the cultural tone in a location is very complex. I honestly think you should read that better.

    Say in Dublin , you know the old ladies with a trolley for shopping in Moore street - should she move over, a guide dog, a man holding a childs hand, a man having a bad day , just a bit absent minded in that moment.

    I think tolerance to people's culture and ways, is key to a happy society - making assumptions about people not educated in the escalator rules of London or Amsterdam is a bit rich. Maybe they haven't travelled or are not as educated or as worldly as you.

    So if a sign was up or a video - cool. But till then - early train - (not you - drop the latte)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,061 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Oh wait, there's a fat American tourist standing there and he ignores me saying 'excuse me'

    Oh wait, didn't happen, doesn't happen, won't happen.

    Tourists don't impinge, they don't. Particularly wealthy, educated tourists that can afford to visit Ireland and have most likely visited most major US cities before venturing to Europe.. If you said Spanish students, I'd say fair enough, but you're obviously making up scenarios to suit you arguement.


  • Posts: 0 Harper Petite Fig


    BTW - I would never block someone myself - but I would defend the principle.
    There is a puritanical nature to your posts. I honestly think you can't apply your training as a teacher to the real world.

    If you were in Africa - would you expect all the locals to behave in a way that you felt would meet the needs of you.

    As another poster said - the cultural tone in a location is very complex. I honestly think you should read that better.

    Say in Dublin , you know the old laddies with a trolley for shopping in Moore street - should she move over, a guide dog, a man holding a childs hand, a man having a bad day , just a bit absent minded in that moment.

    I think tolerance to people's culture and ways, is key to a happy society - making assumptions about people not educated in the escalator rules of London or Amsterdam is a bit rich. Maybe they haven't travelled or are not as educated or as worldly as you.

    So if a sign was up or a video - cool. But till then - early train - (not you - drop the latte)

    I'm not saying people in rural Ireland should do as people do in London. But you don't seem to understand why people could legitimately be in a hurry and that comes off as ignorant and quite selfish. You're the one who is implying that anyone who's late only has themselves to blame and that anyone in a hurry is rushing to buy a latte - pretty arrogant and cold, no? The overall point that you're missing is that standing aside on an escalator is a sign of consideration for others. It has little to no impact on you to stand to the right, but could make a massive difference to the person you hold up. I don't think a little bit of self-awareness and awareness of your surroundings is a lot to ask when you're in a crowded city.


  • Posts: 0 Harper Petite Fig


    John_Rambo wrote: »
    Oh wait, didn't happen, doesn't happen, won't happen.

    Tourists don't impinge, they don't. Particularly wealthy, educated tourists that can afford to visit Ireland and have most likely visited most major US cities before venturing to Europe.. If you said Spanish students, I'd say fair enough, but you're obviously making up scenarios to suit you arguement.

    Oh yeah, cos you were there. :confused:

    It happens ALL THE TIME. I work near Leicester Square in London, not in Ireland. At least once a week, I get held up by tourists. It's usually every day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,726 ✭✭✭Pretzill


    I hate escalators - don't trust that I won't be tripped on the last rung. I learned the Tube ettiquette quite quickly on my first visit to London during rush hour when I was pushed to the right hand side by the force of passing air from rushing commuters. Tne only place in Ireland I have experienced something a little similiar was at Dublin airport on those moving floor thingies. (why the rush I dunno, I'm glad of the break when I'm fully baggage laden.)

    But let's face it op and other escalator beaters you can hardly be rushing up the moving stairs in our countries many multi floored shopping centres?

    They are lazy stairs reap the benefits or just take the ones that don't move.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    I'm not saying people in rural Ireland should do as people do in London. But you don't seem to understand why people could legitimately be in a hurry and that comes off as ignorant and quite selfish. You're the one who is implying that anyone who's late only has themselves to blame and that anyone in a hurry is rushing to buy a latte - pretty arrogant and cold, no? The overall point that you're missing is that standing aside on an escalator is a sign of consideration for others. It has little to no impact on you to stand to the right, but could make a massive difference to the person you hold up. I don't think a little bit of self-awareness and awareness of your surroundings is a lot to ask when you're in a crowded city.

    Maybe, I'm wrong on this ?
    I don't want to personalise the debate.

    But I would like to put forward the idea, that the least tolerant people of this - would not be from a city background at all. Could be from West Mayo or something.

    They have gone over to London and think they know everything about the world because they went on the "year out".

    From experience - a key to living happily in a city, is to fit in to the norms of that city. Dublin is not Lagos or London.

    If you run around Dublin bossing people around because you seen it in London - Trust me on this - you are heading for serious trouble for yourself.

    In Dublin we call it "street wise".


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