Just sold my car to pay the rent

WilyCoyote

SV wrote: »

You're right, things will get better. Keep the head up!

At least he can't keep it under the bonnet now

EazyD

pharmaton wrote: »

this tbh.
The newspapers yesterday had headlined the financial differences between the working family and the ones in receipt of social welfare. I was only surprised there weren't more threads here discussing the issue yesterday, we all know how thoroughly Ah loves a good gubberment stupid thread but as it happens the op appears to be the only contributor to the topic of the day.
I'm currently in recepit of social welfare assistance since July of this year and have just started back in education which I can only hope can provide some sense of comfort wrt my own and my daughters future and career prospects.
I'm at a personal financial loss in taking up this course and with an adult dependent the lack of funds is felt quite harshly but I still manage to feed us and just about pay the bills. There is a really good reason for this and while I don't have a car to sell (if I did that would be great) I am aware of what supports are in place so we don't have to go hungry. The op doesn't appear to have access to such supports however and appears to not want to give any input as to why. If you're going to raise an issue for discussion here it helps if you can bring all sides of the story to the table.

I'm still not comprehending your previous comment:/

pharmaton

EazyD wrote: »

I'm still not comprehending your previous comment:/

really, you don't see the irony in someone resorting to selling their car in order to eat yet can afford internet access to come here and tell us about it.
I suspect you do but you have no intention of acknowledging it. In fact your only contribution to the thread so far has been an attempt at thank whoring by highlighting my controversial posts and I highly doubt you have anything more substantial to offer at this stage. My guess is that's where your lack of comprehension stems from.

billysweeney

pharmaton wrote: »

really, you don't see the irony in someone resorting to selling their car in order to eat yet can afford internet access to come here and tell us about it.
I suspect you do but you have no intention of acknowledging it. In fact your only contribution to the thread so far has been an attempt at thank whoring by highlighting my controversial posts and I highly doubt you have anything more substantial to offer at this stage. My guess is that's where your lack of comprehension stems from.

It really is rather simple, though it seems you would rather see some form of agenda, or something base about it. Bills, as you may know come monthly usually. Normally I get enough work to pay my bills and rent. The last couple of months I haven't. My cable/internet bill probably won't be paid next month, so then it will be cut off.

This thread has proved in my eyes that there are two types of people in this country.. decent skins and the other.. self important ****bags.

pharmaton

billysweeney wrote: »

It really is rather simple, though it seems you would rather see some form of agenda, or something base about it. Bills, as you may know come monthly usually. Normally I get enough work to pay my bills and rent. The last couple of months I haven't. My cable/internet bill probably won't be paid next month, so then it will be cut off.

This thread has proved in my eyes that there are two types of people in this country.. decent skins and the other.. self important ****bags.

several times you were asked if you are availing of social security to assist you, the people who asked earlier in the thread did so in the nature of offering advice to you, they certainly didn't appear to me to be self important ****bags. You however have claimed that you are only interested in taking directly what you want, without giving any explanation to what you mean.

prior to being in this position I worked two jobs, one was a zero hour contract and the other a temporary contract which ended in July. It wouldn't have been affordable for me to rettain a zero hour contract without the support of a more permanent position so I decided the best thing to do for now, given the lack of opportunity in the area of employment was to go back to college.

I also have a family to support, I pay for my own home and I don't have the luxury of being able to afford a car so from my point of view op, you appear to have more than many going into this one before having to "sell up."

And while I can empathise with others in my situation, the lack of a decent wage or employment opportunities available to those willing to work, I'm guessing if you can still afford internet then you're probably not going to starve anytime soon. In fact, your story doesn't really have any bones to it at all and I suspect you're typing this from the comfort of your mothers living room.

billysweeney

pharmaton wrote: »

several times you were asked if you are availing of social security to assist you, the people who asked earlier in the thread did so in the nature of offering advice to you, they certainly didn't appear to me to be self important ****bags. You however have claimed that you are only interested in taking directly what you want, without giving any explanation to what you mean.

prior to being in this position I worked two jobs, one was a zero hour contract and the other a temporary contract which ended in July. It wouldn't have been affordable for me to rettain a zero hour contract without the support of a more permanent position so I decided the best thing to do for now, given the lack of opportunity in the area of employment was to go back to college.

I also have a family to support, I pay for my own home and I don't have the luxury of being able to afford a car so from my point of view op, you appear to have more than many going into this one before having to "sell up."

And while I can empathise with others in my situation, the lack of a decent wage or employment opportunities available to those willing to work, I'm guessing if you can still afford internet then you're probably not going to starve anytime soon.

Don't worry about it lad, you seem to be working yourself up about it.

Sh1tbag OToole

The Diabolical Monocle wrote: »

lol.

...sent from his iPhone.

The dogs on the street have iPhones now..

pharmaton

billysweeney wrote: »

Don't worry about it lad, you seem to be working yourself up about it.

I won't, I'm a woman.

billysweeney

pharmaton wrote: »

I won't, I'm a woman.

I really couldn't be bothered getting into a silly argument. However I would proffer the advice, in general, that it may benefit you to try to look at something in the whole, and not to automatically assume that whatever you are being told is not true.

I can see no reason why I would come on here and say what I did last night if it is not true. I have nothing to gain, or lose, by doing so. To be honest I just wanted to vent a little, without having to do so to my partner, as she is stressed enough as it is.

I would suggest to you that you look up the word empathy in the dictionary, and maybe try it out a little, roll it around your mouth and see how it feels. Life is not always black and white, and you are most certainly not always right.

pharmaton

billysweeney wrote: »

I really couldn't be bothered getting into a silly argument. However I would proffer the advice, in general, that it may benefit you to try to look at something in the whole, and not to automatically assume that whatever you are being told is not true.

I can see no reason why I would come on here and say what I did last night if it is not true. I have nothing to gain, or lose, by doing so. To be honest I just wanted to vent a little, without having to do so to my partner, as she is stressed enough as it is.

I would suggest to you that you look up the word empathy in the dictionary, and maybe try it out a little, roll it around your mouth and see how it feels. Life is not always black and white, and you are most certainly not always right.

what you sold your car, wait I'm going to cry.

billysweeney

pharmaton wrote: »

what you sold your car, wait I'm going to cry.

Man or woman... you certainly are a twat.

pharmaton

billysweeney wrote: »

Man or woman... you certainly are a twat.

that there is personal abuse.
So, what about those benefits op? Have you contacted your local cwo or svp for help yet?

Elephant Man from china

I'm sure there is a shop, fast food, factory job available for the OP.. It's really a matter of choice you either take this kind of job and keep your car or don't..

Elephant Man from china

Elephant Man from china wrote: »

I'm sure there is a shop, fast food, factory job available for the OP.. It's really a matter of choice you either take this kind of job and keep your car or don't..

Where specifically are all those full time jobs in retail, fast-food, or factory


If they are on a 0 hours contract I would say he already has a job don't you think?.

Maybe coming on here and saying they have to sell their car so they can live!, without giving further detail was probably a bit silly however they do not deserve abuse.

osarusan

mariaalice wrote: »

Maybe coming on here and saying they have to sell their car so they can live!, without giving further detail was probably a bit silly however they do not deserve abuse.

Refusing to contemplate/investigate their eligibility for welfare, and instead talking about going out ans stealing what they want, deserves abuse, in my opinion.

pharmaton

mariaalice wrote: »

Where specifically are all those full time jobs in retail, fast-food, or factory


If they are on a 0 hours contract I would say he already has a job don't you think?.

Maybe coming on here and saying they have to sell their car so they can live!, without giving further detail was probably a bit silly however they do not deserve abuse.

op may have come here to vent but claiming that they had to sell their car to buy food and pay rent doesn't add up. Granted the current situation in this country is píss poor but we have a system in place which means that people don't go without food and can get assistance with rent where applicable.
The op wasn't abused here, his circumstances were questioned and if anything he got poked a bit in an AH manner but when pushed about details refused to go into them which tends to raise more questions than answers. The op's partner may have a car, he still has access to the internet and while it sucks that owning a car is an expensive luxury atm, if you don't have work and can't afford it then it's a case of needs must.

I remember a similar topic being discussed here sometime ago, the only difference was the op was a single parent and was informed several times that they shouldn't have the flat screen tv, the internet and a hundred channels if they couldn't afford it as rent food and bills were a priority. It's enlightening to see the difference in attitudes when the ventee is a single male with no kids resorting to selling his car. No apparent difference yet this is one where the majority can relate and more willing to empathise with.

SCOOP 64

Elephant Man from china wrote: »

I'm sure there is a shop, fast food, factory job available for the OP.. It's really a matter of choice you either take this kind of job and keep your car or don't..

This is why most people are in trouble in the first place, because there is very little work going in shops,fast food ,factory's etc...

FurQyou

billysweeney wrote: »

Ah I guess I just felt like having a bit of a moan. It just seems to get tougher to get ahead.. the really ****ty thing is that it needed a little bit of work to pass the nct, work that I could do myself but I din't have 55 euro to put it back through the test.. I'd have got twice as much. Plus with this new tax rule I'm still going to have to pay the tax for the time it was off the road as I didn't get it declared off the road.

No worries at all! It was an expression of solidarity!

Sorry to hear. I know how it feels to be worrying over what sound like trivial amounts of money but is actually a stretch for what you get.

I wouldn't normally go into graphic detail like this, but i've been spitting blood for about a year now (yes I brush regularly etc!) but I can't afford the 50 quid to visit the dentist!

Also little things like when your shoes start ripping your feet to shreds but you can't afford a new pair.

A lot of people just don't get how hard it is when you're on the bottom rung of society, and what's worse, they judge you for it without knowing.

FurQyou

Elephant Man from china wrote: »

I'm sure there is a shop, fast food, factory job available for the OP.. It's really a matter of choice you either take this kind of job and keep your car or don't..

FurQyou wrote: »

A lot of people just don't get how hard it is when you're on the bottom rung of society, and what's worse, they judge you for it without knowing.

Like this chap!

James DD

pharmaton wrote: »

what you sold your car, wait I'm going to cry.

your amazing lady, bitter wow

pharmaton

James DD wrote: »

your amazing lady, bitter wow

I'm not really, I'm actually very nice
Look at it this way, at least he didn't have to sell his left kidney. I mean I'd be empathy all over that.

Zambia

I would have to agree several people survive car less in Ireland. It's not the end of the world.

SV

pharmaton wrote: »

I'm not really, I'm actually very nice
Look at it this way, at least he didn't have to sell his left kidney. I mean I'd be empathy all over that.

You don't sound very nice.

pharmaton

SV wrote: »

You don't sound very nice.

sorry, I'll try harder next time.

razorgil

anyway, who's got a car for sale, what is it, and how much????

Stabshauptmann

In the first 40 posts the OP dodged the "Are you not applying for social welfare" question umpteen times. After 40 posts, TL:DR. If this is a troll, its a bit twisted.

pharmaton

Stabshauptmann wrote: »

In the first 40 posts the OP dodged the "Are you not applying for social welfare" question umpteen times. After 40 posts, TL:DR. If this is a troll, its a bit twisted.

it was about the pride and dignity of a man who was not willing to be a dole scrounger so sold his car to pay his bills when there was no work. It's like how the newspaper said. He's a hero.

deco nate

pharmaton wrote: »

it was about the pride and dignity of a man who was not willing to be a dole scrounger so sold his car to pay his bills when there was no work. It's like how the newspaper said. He's a hero.

Reading thru your posts on this thread I have
to agree... That you are a not very nice person, that's all I can say without getting banned.


Amazed you have not got a warning at this stage.

A lot of your posts on this thread made me
say.. WTF!
just so glad you are Ok in your glass tower
that you can look down on those that want to
work an not be a drain on the sw.

Cause we all know, by the threads about sw

on here how so many are against it, cos of taxes Ect Ect....blah blah.. B's.

Edit :also if you think he is a troll, why not report it instead of posting?

I do anytime I think someone is without posting on said thread.
And if people did report it as trolling and it's still open, the mods have had a look and decided it's not.

Edit.. Edit :reading through it again, it's you that are the troll. Oh my god! Some of the things you said make me sick, you(to me) seem to quote people just to get their backs up and reply to you! Sad... Very sad

TwoShedsJackson

SouthTippBass wrote: »

Its times like this I turn to the good book for support, but I cant even do that any more...

old_aussie

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Society in what sense cents?

Fixed it for you

pharmaton

deco nate wrote: »

Reading thru your posts on this thread I have
to agree... That you are a not very nice person, that's all I can say without getting banned.


Amazed you have not got a warning at this stage.

A lot of your posts on this thread made me
say.. WTF!
just so glad you are Ok in your glass tower
that you can look down on those that want to
work an not be a drain on the sw.

Cause we all know, by the threads about sw

on here how so many are against it, cos of taxes Ect Ect....blah blah.. B's.

Edit :also if you think he is a troll, why not report it instead of posting?

I do anytime I think someone is without posting on said thread.
And if people did report it as trolling and it's still open, the mods have had a look and decided it's not.

Edit.. Edit :reading through it again, it's you that are the troll. Oh my god! Some of the things you said make me sick, you(to me) seem to quote people just to get their backs up and reply to you! Sad... Very sad

maybe take some of your own advice and report what offends you, I've quoted all my posts so you can take your pick. Just for needs, calling someone a troll is a paddling offence too so I reported yours.

pharmaton wrote: »

ok you can go to bed now Billy, thanks for that. Don't forget to turn off the internet before you go.

pharmaton wrote: »

dat iphone

pharmaton wrote: »

this tbh.
The newspapers yesterday had headlined the financial differences between the working family and the ones in receipt of social welfare. I was only surprised there weren't more threads here discussing the issue yesterday, we all know how thoroughly Ah loves a good gubberment stupid thread but as it happens the op appears to be the only contributor to the topic of the day.
I'm currently in recepit of social welfare assistance since July of this year and have just started back in education which I can only hope can provide some sense of comfort wrt my own and my daughters future and career prospects.
I'm at a personal financial loss in taking up this course and with an adult dependent the lack of funds is felt quite harshly but I still manage to feed us and just about pay the bills. There is a really good reason for this and while I don't have a car to sell (if I did that would be great) I am aware of what supports are in place so we don't have to go hungry. The op doesn't appear to have access to such supports however and appears to not want to give any input as to why. If you're going to raise an issue for discussion here it helps if you can bring all sides of the story to the table.

pharmaton wrote: »

really, you don't see the irony in someone resorting to selling their car in order to eat yet can afford internet access to come here and tell us about it.
I suspect you do but you have no intention of acknowledging it. In fact your only contribution to the thread so far has been an attempt at thank whoring by highlighting my controversial posts and I highly doubt you have anything more substantial to offer at this stage. My guess is that's where your lack of comprehension stems from.

pharmaton wrote: »

I won't, I'm a woman.

pharmaton wrote: »

what you sold your car, wait I'm going to cry.

pharmaton wrote: »

that there is personal abuse.
So, what about those benefits op? Have you contacted your local cwo or svp for help yet?

pharmaton wrote: »

op may have come here to vent but claiming that they had to sell their car to buy food and pay rent doesn't add up. Granted the current situation in this country is píss poor but we have a system in place which means that people don't go without food and can get assistance with rent where applicable.
The op wasn't abused here, his circumstances were questioned and if anything he got poked a bit in an AH manner but when pushed about details refused to go into them which tends to raise more questions than answers. The op's partner may have a car, he still has access to the internet and while it sucks that owning a car is an expensive luxury atm, if you don't have work and can't afford it then it's a case of needs must.

I remember a similar topic being discussed here sometime ago, the only difference was the op was a single parent and was informed several times that they shouldn't have the flat screen tv, the internet and a hundred channels if they couldn't afford it as rent food and bills were a priority. It's enlightening to see the difference in attitudes when the ventee is a single male with no kids resorting to selling his car. No apparent difference yet this is one where the majority can relate and more willing to empathise with.

pharmaton wrote: »

I'm not really, I'm actually very nice
Look at it this way, at least he didn't have to sell his left kidney. I mean I'd be empathy all over that.

pharmaton wrote: »

sorry, I'll try harder next time.

pharmaton wrote: »

it was about the pride and dignity of a man who was not willing to be a dole scrounger so sold his car to pay his bills when there was no work. It's like how the newspaper said. He's a hero.

If my posts offend you it's probably because they are swimming against the popular opinion. Thats not a paddling offense. In fact I don't believe your a very nice person myself.

Your posts are not offensive exactly they just show an extreme lack of empathy for someone who is currently having some difficulties in their life.

pharmaton

mariaalice wrote: »

Your posts are not offensive exactly they just show an extreme lack of empathy for someone who is currently having some difficulties in their life.

I already expressed to the op that I have every sympathy with others who are in this particular situation, repeatedly.

Its interesting that the other points the poster make, such as the rise of 0 hours contract and the casualization of entry level work and its effects on society didn't get much comment.

pharmaton

mariaalice wrote: »

Its interesting that the other points the poster make, such as the rise of 0 hours contract and the casualization of entry level work and its effects on society didn't get much comment.

if you read my posts you will see where I actually referred to my own situation which also involved working a zero hour contract job and the subsequent situation as a result of that.



(and with all due respect, coming from such a similar scenario myself it's more understandable to want to know why the op doesn't divulge the nature of his situation which rules him out from receiving sw. In fact suggestion itself that this makes someone dirty or underhand is the entire premise of this thread, and one which is practically congratulated here, where in reality had you been paying into it your social insurance this would be covered for you and probably where my lack of empathy stems from)

Potatoeman

mariaalice wrote: »

Your posts are not offensive exactly they just show an extreme lack of empathy for someone who is currently having some difficulties in their life.

You cant survive on empathy. Practicle advise is far more usefull, if you cant afford to feed yourself there is something wrong that you need to tackle.

pharmaton

I dunno, maybe i could throw in an oblig assburgers claim for my lack of empathy and get away with it. Truly, I save my feels for people I know and care about, dude lost his car..sorry for your loss bro, chin up things will get better. Go see if sw can help you out, no need for people to be going hungry in this day and age.


better?

turbot

OP, if you have significant amount of time and not enough work, you should teach yourself something that makes you more employable.
There are lots of free / very cheap online resources you can use to learn to program or study aspects of web development / online marketing.
After 6 months of your best efforts, you should have enough skill to find other sources of employment. I hope it all works out for you - and encourage you to be inventive and find ways to add value to people who have money. It may not be easy, but it can be done.

seanie_c

P.Walnuts wrote: »

The fact you are a fairly frequent poster in the CT forum really, really detracts from the credibility of your posts.

The fact you work in the financial sector really detracts from the credibility of your posts.

The fact is, the financial sector did decimate African, South American and East European countries before they turned on America and Europe and you have no coherent rebuttal because you know I'm correct.

Now, go back to your job being a thief because that's all you're good at.

Mr.David

seanie_c wrote: »

The fact you work in the financial sector really detracts from the credibility of your posts.

The fact is, the financial sector did decimate African, South American and East European countries before they turned on America and Europe and you have no coherent rebuttal because you know I'm correct.

Now, go back to your job being a thief because that's all you're good at.

I'm intrigued as to your own profession?!

pharmaton

James DD wrote: »

your amazing lady, bitter wow

I keep hearing doge when I read this

kitnan

pharmaton wrote: »

I keep hearing doge when I read this

such shock, much bitter, so amaze. wow

seanie_c

Mr.David wrote: »

I'm intrigued as to your own profession?!

When I'm referring to financial sector, I'm not talking about minnows working in the local credit union or bank...I'm talking about people in city of London and Wallstreet. I'm talking about traders and brokers. Are you one of those? If not, I don't consider you in the same league, not even close.

If it weren't for honest hard working people being productive members of society, these useless turds would be lying in a ditch somewhere dying of starvation.

P.Walnuts and his cronies are incapable of refuting my earlier assertions the financial sector caused immeasurable human suffering and environmental destruction in many nations; African countries, South American countries, East European and Russia after the collapse of Soviet Union.

He probably knows I'm right but lacks the empathy to give a shyte about it which only proves most of these people have narcissistic tendencies.

Maybe they were unloved as children growing up or maybe they were just born that way, who can say for sure?

What I'm 100% certain of is the system they feed upon is unsustainable. You can't have a minority in society concentrate all the wealth for themselves. It has never worked throughout history and it's not going to work this time either.

Mr.David

seanie_c wrote: »

When I'm referring to financial sector, I'm not talking about minnows working in the local credit union or bank...I'm talking about people in city of London and Wallstreet. I'm talking about traders and brokers. Are you one of those? If not, I don't consider you in the same league, not even close.

Yes I am a trader, but not in London or Wall st. Yes I am 'one of those' as you say.

melekalikimaka

Mr.David wrote: »

I'm intrigued as to your own profession?!

definitely nothing financial given his warped view of economics... at a guess I'd say a writer for a red top, tho his vocabulary is a little advanced, but the theories are defo redtop

seanie_c

melekalikimaka wrote: »

definitely nothing financial given his warped view of economics... at a guess I'd say a writer for a red top, tho his vocabulary is a little advanced, but the theories are defo redtop

You know, you really need to lose your infantile delusions of how the world works. You're probably still very young and naive so I can forgive you for that.

seanie_c

Mr.David wrote: »

Yes I am a trader, but not in London or Wall st. Yes I am 'one of those' as you say.

Tell me this then, what benefit is your job to society?

melekalikimaka

seanie_c wrote: »

You know, you really need to lose your infantile delusions of how the world works. You're probably still very young and naive so I can forgive you for that.

I'm neither young nor naive, your vendetta towards the financial sector is just based on utter tripe, have you thought about starting a newsletter?

Mr.David

seanie_c wrote: »

Tell me this then, what benefit is your job to society?

Financial markets provide an aggregate selection and appraisal of all publicly listed companies. This in turn promotes competition, innovation and efficiency. The end result is that the consumer, in whatever form, gains hugely. Advances in technology, medicine etc etc are all promoted by the selective ability of the markets.

Good companies do well as the markets invest in them, this benefits society. 'Bad' companies are shunned and killed early in their lifecycle thus preventing unnecessary waste of resources.

The phenomenal advances in the standard of living in the last 100 years are partly due to the evolution of the financial system, allowing people to own their own houses, drive cars and take holidays whilst still earning an average industrial wage.

seanie_c

melekalikimaka wrote: »

I'm neither young nor naive, your vendetta towards the financial sector is just based on utter tripe, have you thought about starting a newsletter?

No, I'm afraid it's based on reality, something you appear to have difficulty dealing with.

If in fact my vendetta (as you want to call it) is based on utter tripe, it should be of no great difficulty for you to refute it with robust evidence.

But I know...and you know you haven't a clue what you're talking about so let's just leave it there, shall we?

You keep living in fantasy land or whatever it is you choose to believe is real.