Utv to launch a new station in the republic

TAFKAlawhec

7upfree wrote: »

And the majority of monies raised goes to.............RTE. Symphony Orchestras, choirs, and DJs. Mad as it gets really.

A system that applies in a lot of other countries which also have public service broadcasters, who carrying advertising and/or sponsorship whilst also getting monies via a television licence fee/media fee or direct government funding.

Whatever the legit concerns about RTÉ, believe it or not as a PSB it's one of the more leaner such broadcasting organisations in Europe. If you want to see a country where no PSB TV broadcaster exists (except for a Maroi language funded channel) go to New Zealand. The FTA TV there is so desperate that enthusiasts there try their best to get whatever they can from the main Australian networks (SBS is nominally available, as was Seven for a brief period due to the use of AU/NZ beams on the Oputs satellites). And Australian TV isn't exactly that great itself.

radiowaves

7upfree wrote: »

Elitism - leaving the DJs aside.

Elitism?

You appear to be so well-informed - care to tell us how much of the licence fee money goes to the different areas?

Elmo

TAFKAlawhec wrote: »

TV3 Ulster? Are some people here serious? :pac:

I always found it hypocritical that UK channels had issues with Irish broadcasters broadcasting into NI yet Irish broadcasters just took it as a fact that UK broadcasters were available in the Republic. For years UTV broadcast Home and Away in the Republic. There is no reason why TV3 couldn't start a channel aimed at an NI audience. What about taking slots held by shopping channels and the like. Though I was be slightly facetious when I suggested it.

I agree UTV Ireland will most likely take the route you suggested. I wonder if they have the rights to Daybreak and Lorraine????

Also I believe that TV3 are paying 2RN for carriage.

Onthe3rdDay

Elmo wrote: »

I always found it hypocritical that UK channels had issues with Irish broadcasters broadcasting into NI yet Irish broadcasters just took it as a fact that UK broadcasters were available in the Republic. For years UTV broadcast Home and Away in the Republic. There is no reason why TV3 couldn't start a channel aimed at an NI audience. What about taking slots held by shopping channels and the like. Though I was be slightly facetious when I suggested it.

I agree UTV Ireland will most likely take the route you suggested. I wonder if they have the rights to Daybreak and Lorraine????

Also I believe that TV3 are paying 2RN for carriage.

In real terms NI broadcasters didn't really have issues with broadcasters from the republic, because there was only RTE. Complaining about Pirate radio stations was legitimate. TV3 have never shown any interest in Northern Ireland and that's not going to change now. They haven't even shown interest in Large Parts of Mayo, Kerry, and other parts of the country. All they ever cared about was that Dublin got the signal. The rest of the country really didn't matter.

If a Republic of Ireland Broadcaster wanted to start a Station for Northern Ireland there would be little to stop them, But there's no Market. It would make more sense to start An Irish station aimed at the UK filled with Australian and NZ bought in shows which most UK broadcasters have ignored in recent years. But that's not going to happen either.

UTV are a proper broadcaster with proper goals and aims. They might even try to make Drama in the South at some point in the future, so it can be sold to the ITV network. Can you ever see TV3 doing that?

Jack Taylor was the only thing they ever backed that was even half decent Drama wise and That was only made because the production company was able to get proper backers in Germany and Europe.

Breakfast time is probably the one area where there is a question mark as UTV only have the Licence to broadcast from 9.25am to 5.59am the next morning. ITV plc have the licence to broadcast between 6.00am and 9.25am as they now own GMTV.

TAFKAlawhec

Elmo wrote: »

I always found it hypocritical that UK channels had issues with Irish broadcasters broadcasting into NI yet Irish broadcasters just took it as a fact that UK broadcasters were available in the Republic. For years UTV broadcast Home and Away in the Republic. There is no reason why TV3 couldn't start a channel aimed at an NI audience. What about taking slots held by shopping channels and the like. Though I was be slightly facetious when I suggested it.

In this case, "might makes right". It's the same with German broadcasters trying to get advertising money from Austria & Switzerland, and French channels the same in Belgium & Switzerland - but Austrian, Swiss & Belgian broadcasters aren't readily available in Germany & France, and the Austrian, Swiss & Belgian PSB & main commercial channels are encrypted on satellite. Remember there was no commercial terrestrial broadcaster in the republic until 1998 and RTÉ never really held back the tide of the popular reception of TV channels from the north and from Wales. Home & Away on UTV was never really a problem for RTÉ as the latter was often well ahead of UTV on episodes - indeed RTÉ for much of the 90's often had imported programmes shown sooner than the same on UK channels.

TV3 launching a special channel in NI is a complete non-runner. The amount of content they could get which wouldn't run into conflict with UK broadcasters would present a lot of difficulties - plenty of imported programming broadcast by UK channels don't have one picked up for Irish rights by an Irish broadcaster, Irish viewing of these shows is simply through spillover viewing of the UK channel. That's before getting again into discussions over carriage.

As for "What about taking slots held by shopping channels and the like" as I've already explained the three main commercial multiplexes in the UK (and the soon to be COM7 short-term HD multiplex which will have limited coverage) have no regional variation across the UK except for the SDN multiplex in Wales for historical reasons. So no go. Besides the cost of a slot on the commercial multiplexes aren't cheap - some of them are reported to be going for over £10 million a year.

Elmo wrote: »

I agree UTV Ireland will most likely take the route you suggested. I wonder if they have the rights to Daybreak and Lorraine????

Also I believe that TV3 are paying 2RN for carriage.

Technically the 6.00am-9.25am "Channel 3" slot is still separately licenced for a national commercial breakfast TV service. This licence is held by ITV Breakfast Broadcasting Limited (formerly GMTV Ltd) which is a subsidiary 100% owned by ITV plc. As this programme is produced by ITV it's very possible that Daybreak and Lorraine is part of the rights package that UTV have negotiated for UTV Ireland.

As for TV3 paying 2RN for carriage, if so it's about time.

L1011

Elmo wrote: »

There is no reason why TV3 couldn't start a channel aimed at an NI audience.

There is one monstrous one - money. They have none, setting up a new station in a new market is very expensive and there isn't a huge advertising market in NI anyway.

The Cush

icdg wrote: »

A further tidbit from John McCann in the Times today, the channel will apparently be simply branded UTV on air, just like the Northern station.

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/sectors/media-and-marketing/utv-to-launch-dublin-based-tv-channel-1.1586177

from that article

Its submission to the BAI says that “for clarity, the proposed new UTV Ireland Ltd service will be a separate channel to UTV Ltd”. However, group chief executive John McCann said the channel would “be known simply as UTV” on air.

also from that article, UTV expect the BAI to announce their decision shortly after Christmas

The advent of the channel, which is expected to create at least 100 jobs, is subject to the regulatory go-ahead. UTV Media said it had “dropped off” a content provision contract, as required by section 71 of the Broadcasting Act, to the Broadcasting Authority of Ireland (BAI) yesterday morning.

“We believe that shortly after Christmas we will find out whether or not we have been successful," said Michael Wilson, managing director of UTV Television.

Mr. Rabbit

Time for BBC 1 Ireland maybe ?

Maybe all this is in the spirit of the GFA, since we now have access to RTE on Freeview, albeit on a limited basis.

I think there is space for one more TV station on the NI mux, if I remember correctly so TV3 Ulster would be nice to have.

7upfree

Elmo wrote: »

Elitism ????? So if you play popular music it's not elitism but if you classical it is elitism????

Erm, the clue is in the word 'popular' above.:)

Elmo wrote: »

I can agree with you to a certain extent about RTÉ particularly wages of its presenters but when RTÉ use the licence fee for cultural projects I can't see your point. Though this isn't the right forum for this debate.

The country has been flushed down the pan. 'Cultural' projects are way down the list of priorities. I find it incredible that I, as a taxpayer, am funding choirs and orchestras, which have niche appeal and serve no useful purpose.

7upfree

TAFKAlawhec wrote: »

As for TV3 paying 2RN for carriage, if so it's about time.

Isn't it also time that RTE lived within their means, without a dual income?

Elmo

7upfree wrote: »

Erm, the clue is in the word 'popular' above

The country has been flushed down the pan. 'Cultural' projects are way down the list of priorities. I find it incredible that I, as a taxpayer, am funding choirs and orchestras, which have niche appeal and serve no useful purpose.

No probs with taxpayer funding the Irish film board many of its projects are niche appeal.

The Popular music industry is far more elitist.

Choirs and orchestras did not flush this country down the pan bad banking practices did e.g giving a private tv company a massive loan when it was over valued even in 2006 and then having the tax payer bail out that bank and that TV company.

Sam Russell

UTV may surprise by actually bringing a new Irish channel onto Saorview. They may do more than relay ITV stuff by actually using the new station as a springboard for producing new content which they can sell to UK channels. Their NI licence has always been precarious and they have had to rely on the particular situation in NI (the troubles) to retain it when ITV wanted to take it over. UK TV has suffered from the amalgamation of all the regional ITV companies into one. It has reduced choice and resulted in lower standards overall. Meanwhile Sky has hoovered up most sports coverage leaving just the soaps behind.

Let us hope they bring a lighter touch than the dead hand approach of the current channels. TG4 is may be the only exception to the dead hand syndrome.

TAFKAlawhec

7upfree wrote: »

Isn't it also time that RTE lived within their means, without a dual income?

I see you ignored my last reply to you addressing that point.

munchkin_utd

Sam Russell wrote: »

<snip>They may do more than relay ITV stuff by actually using the new station as a springboard for producing new content which they can sell to UK channels. <snip>.

The boss of UTV said specifically on RTE radio in an interview that it would copy the formula which has worked with UTV up north of relaying the ITV schedule almost in full with a small amount of local news and current affairs content.

So basically ITV Ireland rather than UTV Ireland in a sense.

formerly scottish paddy

Sam Russell wrote: »

UTV may surprise by actually bringing a new Irish channel onto Saorview. They may do more than relay ITV stuff by actually using the new station as a springboard for producing new content which they can sell to UK channels. Their NI licence has always been precarious and they have had to rely on the particular situation in NI (the troubles) to retain it when ITV wanted to take it over. UK TV has suffered from the amalgamation of all the regional ITV companies into one. It has reduced choice and resulted in lower standards overall. Meanwhile Sky has hoovered up most sports coverage leaving just the soaps behind.

Let us hope they bring a lighter touch than the dead hand approach of the current channels. TG4 is may be the only exception to the dead hand syndrome.

DREAM ON

irishfeen

Sam Russell wrote: »

UTV may surprise by actually bringing a new Irish channel onto Saorview. They may do more than relay ITV stuff by actually using the new station as a springboard for producing new content which they can sell to UK channels. Their NI licence has always been precarious and they have had to rely on the particular situation in NI (the troubles) to retain it when ITV wanted to take it over. UK TV has suffered from the amalgamation of all the regional ITV companies into one. It has reduced choice and resulted in lower standards overall. Meanwhile Sky has hoovered up most sports coverage leaving just the soaps behind.

Let us hope they bring a lighter touch than the dead hand approach of the current channels. TG4 is may be the only exception to the dead hand syndrome.

Doubt it very but but really hope your right.

Tony EH

It's no loss to me if TV3 goes and no win if UTV set up another channel.

Both stations are utter shit and have been for years.

The only thing worth a mention is that Vincent Browne will go when TV3 goes belly up. But he'll probably find a home elsewhere. Maybe RTE will give him a leg up. They're in serious need of a decent political program. It's been barren since 'Questions and Answers' wrapped up.

Strangely enough, I thought that TV3 was already owned by ITV.

Stinicker

I hope UTV get those few GAA matches that TV3 absolutely murder during the summer time. Camera quality with the resolution of a 2003 era camera phone and Matt Cooper?? Like Seriously Matt Cooper and the GAA, come on like.

Obviously I'd prefer RTÉ to have a GAA monopoly but if the GAA want to spread it around then let UTV have a go, like if UTV deliberately set out to do bad job on purpose there is no way they could make such a mess of it as the dog-dinner TV3 make of their current GAA broadcasts. I know dozens of people for example who could not watch the Kerry V Cavan GAA match this year in rural parts of Kerry because of TV3's refusal to join Saorsat the digital platform of choice in a high proportion of rural districts where Saorview is unavailable due to geography and wind-turbine interference.

Onthe3rdDay

Stinicker wrote: »

I hope UTV get those few GAA matches that TV3 absolutely murder during the summer time. Camera quality with the resolution of a 2003 era camera phone and Matt Cooper?? Like Seriously Matt Cooper and the GAA, come on like.

Obviously I'd prefer RTÉ to have a GAA monopoly but if the GAA want to spread it around then let UTV have a go, like if UTV deliberately set out to do bad job on purpose there is no way they could make such a mess of it as the dog-dinner TV3 make of their current GAA broadcasts. I know dozens of people for example who could not watch the Kerry V Cavan GAA match this year in rural parts of Kerry because of TV3's refusal to join Saorsat the digital platform of choice in a high proportion of rural districts where Saorview is unavailable due to geography and wind-turbine interference.

If TV3 were to leave the market I would think you'd get back your RTE GAA monopoly. There would be no reason for UTV to go near GAA matches. Sundays would continue as they do at the moment. UTV would be in the market to make money and while the GAA matches might bring in some cash it would be easier to just leave the GAA to RTE and show programmes for a different audience on a Sunday Afternoon.

TV3 tried to get as much cash as possible of out the matches they bought and the coverage suffered. Let's not even talk about the picture quality. There's are certain things RTE do well. This appears to be one of them. I don't follow GAA myself but work colleagues do, they're never happy when TV3 are showing a game.

I do watch Soccer...on ITV HD. Not one person I know watches the champions League on TV3 if another choice is available, and for nearly all of them it is. They've HD tv's and a HD signal from ITV and now UTV HD on Satellite why would they watch on TV3 (the V probably stands for Vaseline). Just look at the top ten figures from TAM Ireland. Champions league is a top ten programme on UTV in the republic already.

7upfree

Elmo wrote: »

No probs with taxpayer funding the Irish film board many of its projects are niche appeal.

I do. As do many others.

Elmo wrote: »

The Popular music industry is far more elitist.

How so.

Elmo wrote: »

Choirs and orchestras did not flush this country down the pan bad banking practices did e.g giving a private tv company a massive loan when it was over valued even in 2006 and then having the tax payer bail out that bank and that TV company.

No they certainly didn't. Although the ones availing of them usually come from within those circles. All the more reason to disband them.

Elmo

7upfree wrote: »

I do. As do many others.

How so.

No they certainly didn't. Although the ones availing of them usually come from within those circles. All the more reason to disband them.

I mentioned the IFB as when I previously brought them up in another post you weren't as quick to condemn them. I am sure many bankers had or have shares in the music industry.

I am not going to agree with you but this isn't the thread for that argument.

Do you have any views on the setting up of UTV Ireland?

7upfree

Elmo wrote: »

I mentioned the IFB as when I previously brought them up in another post you weren't as quick to condemn them. I am sure many bankers had or have shares in the music industry.

I am not going to agree with you but this isn't the thread for that argument.

Do you have any views on the setting up of UTV Ireland?

As mentioned earlier, it's great to see. I sincerely hope they give that mob in Montrose a run for it. What disappoints me the most is the gloating over the imminent demise of TV3. I thought we Irish were better than that.

Macy0161

7upfree wrote: »

As mentioned earlier, it's great to see. I sincerely hope they give that mob in Montrose a run for it. What disappoints me the most is the gloating over the imminent demise of TV3. I thought we Irish were better than that.

So you can gloat at rte? More people are employed in rte than tv3.

Onthe3rdDay

7upfree wrote: »

As mentioned earlier, it's great to see. I sincerely hope they give that mob in Montrose a run for it. What disappoints me the most is the gloating over the imminent demise of TV3. I thought we Irish were better than that.

Irish People...Gloating at the misfortune of others...Now that's a first!:D

AlanS181824

Was talking to Mary White (the polotition) when I was at the Dáil on thursday and she said her husband was appointed managing director or something along those lines so she was talking about it for a while :P
Will be interesting to see what happens with TV3 and stuff.

The Cush

AlanS181824 wrote: »

Was talking to Mary White (the polotition) when I was at the Dáil on thursday and she said her husband was appointed managing director or something along those lines so she was talking about it for a while :P

Padraic White, one of the Directors of UTV Ireland?

UTV Ireland Ltd

Company Registered Office: Macken House, Mayor Street Upper, Dublin 1
Company Registered Number: 455546
Directors: S.Barry, H.Kirkpatrick, J.McCann, R.McManamy, P.White, M.Wilson

http://utvireland.ie/

This from her website

I am married to Mr. Padraic White, one of the architects of what is known worldwide as the “Celtic Tiger” economy. Padraic was Managing Director of the Industrial Development Authority of Ireland (IDA) from 1980 – 1990, the body entrusted with national responsibility for the promotion of foreign direct investment (FDI) into Ireland.

http://www.senatormarywhite.ie/about/

billybound

Onthe3rdDay wrote: »

If TV3 were to leave the market I would think you'd get back your RTE GAA monopoly. There would be no reason for UTV to go near GAA matches. Sundays would continue as they do at the moment. UTV would be in the market to make money and while the GAA matches might bring in some cash it would be easier to just leave the GAA to RTE and show programmes for a different audience on a Sunday Afternoon.

TV3 tried to get as much cash as possible of out the matches they bought and the coverage suffered. Let's not even talk about the picture quality. There's are certain things RTE do well. This appears to be one of them. I don't follow GAA myself but work colleagues do, they're never happy when TV3 are showing a game.

I do watch Soccer...on ITV HD. Not one person I know watches the champions League on TV3 if another choice is available, and for nearly all of them it is. They've HD tv's and a HD signal from ITV and now UTV HD on Satellite why would they watch on TV3 (the V probably stands for Vaseline). Just look at the top ten figures from TAM Ireland. Champions league is a top ten programme on UTV in the republic already.

Agree, if TV3 was HD then there should be no issue with picture quality. SD on sky from the cheapo channels look rubbish. If TV3 went HD then more people might watch it, especially the sport. HD looks great on RTE2 when its showing FULL HD that is, not upscaled.
Would UTV be HD in the republic, is that the plan?

smee again

billybound wrote: »

Agree, if TV3 was HD then there should be no issue with picture quality. SD on sky from the cheapo channels look rubbish. If TV3 went HD then more people might watch it, especially the sport. HD looks great on RTE2 when its showing FULL HD that is, not upscaled.
Would UTV be HD in the republic, is that the plan?

They'd need to get rid of Matt Cooper too, but doubt that's even enough. Their coverage of Sport is dire, they cut to adverts and miss the interview with the manager

The Cush

billybound wrote: »

Would UTV be HD in the republic, is that the plan?

It wasn't mentioned that I know of.

Mr. Rabbit

They'll not be worrying about the champions league now as BT Sport have now secured the rights from 2015 onwards.

Thank goodness for RTE and Saorview

The Cush

Mr. Rabbit wrote: »

Thank goodness for RTE and Saorview

The Irish 2015-2018 CL TV rights have to go to tender yet, there may be no live CL on terrestrial TV, Saorview/Freeview, come Sept 2015, highlights only - maybe???

Elmo

The Cush wrote: »

The Irish 2015-2018 CL TV rights have to go to tender yet, there may be no live CL on terrestrial TV, Saorview/Freeview, come Sept 2015, highlights only - maybe???

This news will be a blow to RTÉ and TV3. Though TV3 says that it will put them in a good position for Irish rights.

ITV and Sky have held the rights for a number of years, when RTÉ and Setanta had the rights TV3 argued that the UEFA had stated that it would be split between local broadcasters.

TV3 and RTÉ now have to face off Setanta and BT for these rights. I don't think UTV will go near them TBH.

And BT have said that they will provide some FTA coverage for English Clubs, were does that leave Irish viewers? its not like we can say that we should have them FTA.

It will be interesting to see if BT launch a new FTA channel.

mike65

UTV will be have to be HD, anything less would be a total fail on their part to heave TV3 out of the way.

Onthe3rdDay

Elmo wrote: »

TV3 and RTÉ now have to face off Setanta and BT for these rights. I don't think UTV will go near them TBH.

It's actually a blessing for UTV, they wouldn't have the rights to show champions league in the republic on Tuesday Nights and would have to fill 4 hours with no ITV Network programmes available. Now ITV will have to come up with something solving UTV's problem.

mike65

Onthe3rdDay wrote: »

It's actually a blessing for UTV, they wouldn't have the rights to show champions league in the republic on Tuesday Nights and would have to fill 4 hours with no ITV Network programmes available. Now ITV will have to come up with something solving UTV's problem.

But they could bid for the Rep of Ireland market if they thought it worth a go.

irishjig69b

Eh, will this not just show same programmes as itv?

Onthe3rdDay

mike65 wrote: »

But they could bid for the Rep of Ireland market if they thought it worth a go.

I wouldn't think It was worth it to them. It's a big outlay in cash for something that will bring returns but if there was a downturn in the advertising Market they'd find it hard to make the money back.

On the other hand showing the ITV line up will cost a lot less and might actually make them more money for no effort.

Onthe3rdDay

UTV will want to keep things simple I assume, especially when you look at the other risks that they take. Someone like ITV biding for football is fine once the price is right. They've 60 million people to aim their programming at.

If UTV buy the football rights and ITV don't have them there are several issues.

1. Actually making a profit on them.
2. We're assuming UTV will want to go on Saorview. So they're happily transmitting away to both sides of the border. Then Tuesday Night comes along. UTV Ulster shows a repeat of Miss Marple. UTV Ireland Shows Man Utd V Liverpool in the Semi final of the Champions league. How will UTV Ulster viewers react? especially as some of Northern Ireland can get Saorview.
3. People will quickly get used to UTV relaying ITV programmes. There's a Market for the soaps and I think it's very different to the football market.
Imagine that an ep of Coronation street goes out that Tuesday on ITV followed by an Hour of Emmerdale, But it won't be shown on UTV Ireland until 11pm at the earliest. Again uproar from viewers, and these viewers are the one's that watch UTV every day, not your fickle football fans.

Elmo

UTV would have had to put something else up instead of Champions League as TV3 and RTÉ hold the rights in the republic.

Eh, will this not just show same programmes as itv?

No so far UTV have not bought rights to many of the Indpendent productions that ITV commission from other producers. The deal announced by UTV this week only secured ITV Studio productions such as Coronation Street, Emmerdale, Heartbeat, Marple and Agatha Christie's Poirot, I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here!, Ant & Dec's Saturday Night Takeaway, The Jeremy Kyle Show etc.

TV3 still hold the rights to programmes such as The X Factor, Downton Abbey, Britian's Got Talent, The Cube etc.

UTV Ireland also plan to have separate news to that of UTV in NI.

Onthe3rdDay

Elmo wrote: »

UTV would have had to put something else up instead of Champions League as TV3 and RTÉ hold the rights in the republic.

Elmo wrote: »

TV3 still hold the rights to programmes such as The X Factor, Downton Abbey, Britian's Got Talent, The Cube etc.

None of those shows normally go out on a Tuesday night. Britain's got Talent goes out a weeknight once a year.

Tuesdays would probably follow the usual Soap and something else. I would assume any new programmes that UTV negotiate for as part of the ITV network will include a clause that Republic of Ireland rights have to be sold to UTV Ireland. So TV3 are left with what they've already got. X factor appears to be winding down (That could change if Simon returns next season as the X factor is likely to be cancelled in the US) Downton is on 8 Sunday's a year. Britian's got talent fills a Week.

In fact the only night TV3 has anything going forward is Saturday's and it's possible that most of them will come to an end or be rested by 2015. On top of that TV3 won't be too happy to air shows that cross promote the ITV schedule. Cube soap specials for example.

The Cush

Onthe3rdDay wrote: »

2. We're assuming UTV will want to go on Saorview.

Not at all, they want to be on Saorview

Michael Wilson, Managing Director, UTV Television, on Newstalk's Lunchtime
"... but of course we'll be talking to all of the platform operators. We want to be on Saorview, of course we want to be on the indigenous platform. We think it's really important and I suspect when I get back to my office it'll be one of the first calls I put in."

Elmo

UTV Ireland will have to have a certain amount of programming that is not on the ITV network. Really it will be interesting to see what TV3 do:-

Will they let go of X-Factor (down 100,000 viewers since 2011) and go after BBC One Saturday night schedule along with EastEnders, because no matter what they say about reinvesting the money saved into Irish productions, much of it will largely go on cheap imports. Or they could invest it into Sports by buy up all Champion Leagues rights for ROI.

paulboland

2015
UTV sky epg
Sky epg will we now see itv 2 itv 3 itv4 from 2015
Tv3 will they still be allowed to block itv channels been on sky epg
As with UTV Ireland launch they surely can't do this anymore

Elmo

paulboland wrote: »

2015
UTV sky epg
Sky epg will we now see itv 2 itv 3 itv4 from 2015
Tv3 will they still be allowed to block itv channels been on sky epg
As with UTV Ireland launch they surely can't do this anymore

No. Why would UTV want to compete with ITV2, 3, 4?

Though nothing to say it won't happen.

lertsnim

paulboland wrote: »

2015
UTV sky epg
Sky epg will we now see itv 2 itv 3 itv4 from 2015
Tv3 will they still be allowed to block itv channels been on sky epg
As with UTV Ireland launch they surely can't do this anymore

Why couldn't they? If they still hold the Irish rights to certain programming then what's to stop them.

mackersdublin

mike65 wrote: »

UTV will be have to be HD, anything less would be a total fail on their part to heave TV3 out of the way.

What about Sky and UPC customers who have SD boxes?

mike65

mackersdublin wrote: »

What about Sky and UPC customers who have SD boxes?

HD can be watched in SD, SD cannot be watched in HD (they would have both)

mackersdublin

Would TV3 be better off closing 3e and putting whatever money they do have into TV3 programming
And sell 3e's EPG slot on Saorview, Sky and UPC to UTV Ireland
I'm pretty sure UTV Ireland would love to have 3e's EPG number

mackersdublin

mike65 wrote: »

HD can be watched in SD, SD cannot be watched in HD (they would have both)

HD channels don't appear on Sky and UPC's SD boxes

mike65

I was joking, as you say they are discrete channels so HD doesn't appear on an SD box. UTV like nearly everyone will continue SD for a good few years yet.