Manchester United vs Arsenal Match Thread 10/11/13 K/O 16.00 Sky.

Timmyctc

RasTa wrote: »

So, what part of the match were you discussing

mike65

Ah this is going to be fun for the rest of us at least.

Kerrigooney

mike65 wrote: »

Ah this is going to be fun for the rest of us at least.

Good fun already.

mike65

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Good fun already.

True if you enjoy school yard level taunts :pac: Happily I'll be able to see this round me sisters on Sunday - a proper, well UPC picture

kryogen

Gonna enjoy this one (not the thread, the match obv)

Liam O

Raf32 wrote: »

No Arsenal fans think this is a formality, away to the champions, best two strikers in the league, would be delighted with a point

Jaysis, you'll have the Liverpool fans here with talk like that

Alfred Borden

Liam O wrote: »

Jaysis, you'll have the Liverpool fans here with talk like that

Anything but that please :pac:

PhlegmyMoses

bad2dabone wrote: »

You're Ozil.
Wenger rings you up and says he wants to build the future of his team around you. 2 of your international mates are already loving the club.
Or.
Moyes rings you and you say "who??"

Ozil jumped at the Arsenal move in a heartbeat.

Then Wenger drank his concoction of unicorn dust and leprechaun sperm and fought a minotaur!

5 months ago, one of these teams gave the other a guard of honor. You'll not guess by identifying which fan posted what.

Oranage2

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

If he hasn't learned after getting 1 point from City, Chelsea and Liverpool, I give up.

It's suicide setting up like he did in those games against the inform confident team.

What else can he do though, he hasn't got the midfield to actually try play the ball, also keeping it tight is a tactic that does work against arsenal.

I reckon:


Raf…vi…rio…evra
…felaini…jones…
Valencia …roo…nani
…………rvp


Arsenal

…Arteta…flamini
Ozil…ramsey…Santi
………GIRoud

Timmyctc

Oranage2 wrote: »

What else can he do though, he hasn't got the midfield to actually try play the ball, also keeping it tight is a tactic that does work against arsenal.

I reckon:


Raf…vi…rio…evra
…felaini…jones…
Valencia …roo…nani
…………rvp


Arsenal

…Arteta…flamini
Ozil…ramsey…Santi
………GIRoud

A midfield with Valencia Fel and Jones... and not a forward pass was attempted that day.

gosplan

n32 wrote: »

Heres 2 blasts from the past to bring them back to reality

Past ... Reality

shano_88

If Carrick is out I will fancy Arsenal. United have no one else who can do what he does at the moment. A Carrick-Fellaini axis would probably work well against our midfield.

I can see this match being fairly cagey. Im gonna go for a 1-1

prettyboy81

Fancy a 2-2 thriller or maybe Utd to edge it 2-1. Looking forward to it 2mo.

Kerrigooney

Liam O wrote: »

Jaysis, you'll have the Liverpool fans here with talk like that

*waves*

L'prof

May as well chip in with this since everyone else is doing it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pXknz6XBjY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOGE6ZUfLN4

And my personal favourite!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44TrRB4PkXI

ScummyMan

I'm hoping for

DDG
Rafael Smalling Vidic Evra
Fellani Jones
Nani. Rooney Januzaj
RVP

I'm fearing :

DDG
Rafael Evans Vidic Evra
Valencia Jones Cleverly Giggs
Rooney RVP


How we line out tomorrow is so so important.

Gringo180

I would be chuffed if Giggs and Cleverly start tomorrow for Utd. Although I dont think Moyes is that tactically naive. I would take a draw in a heart beat and go into the international break sitting cosily on top of the table.

shano_88

I can see Rooney being deployed to stick to Arteta when Arsenal are in possession. Worked well for United last year although Arsenal obviously have more options this year.

Pepe LeFrits

zerks wrote: »

Man he looks young there.

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Haven't seen it said in as many words but it's just the general feeling I'm getting from some.

That's probably more to do with you than the posters in the thread though.

I can't really see Arsenal winning here. I didn't see us winning in Dortmund either mind you but that was a different sort of challenge; United will be more like Liverpool in the threat they pose, but they'll be more dangerous. More talent and with the home crowd, not to mention we likely won't get favourable calls at OT like the ones we got against Liverpool.

A draw would be a great result but I wouldn't be surprised by a United win.

Drexel

Think this thread is the biggest indicator that Arsenal are back

greendom

So are we really supposed to believe that Moyes reckons he couldn't have found room for Ozil in his team. That's either shocking mis-judgement or an outright lie

gosplan

I'm fearing a Utd win too.

We've enough quality to do well but if the Utd defence and keeper play to their potential, it could all be a bit too narrow for us. Then they've obviously got good wingers and two excellent strikers to hit us on the counter with.

But hey, we'd still be 2 points clear at the top and I'm not so worried about this Arsenal team in terms of confidence. The quality we have in midfield will see us bounce back quickly enough.

If we do win I think it'll be a case of someone in the Utd defence slipping up and us getting the opening goal.

Drexel

shano_88 wrote: »

If Carrick is out I will fancy Arsenal. United have no one else who can do what he does at the moment. A Carrick-Fellaini axis would probably work well against our midfield.

I can see this match being fairly cagey. Im gonna go for a 1-1

Is Carrick out? Thats a massive loss to UTD if he is. He's prob the only player they cant replace

gosplan

jonny666 wrote: »

Is Carrick out? Thats a massive loss to UTD if he is. He's prob the only player they cant replace

I think Welbeck is out too. The less insanely fast players they have the better tbh

Gringo180

jonny666 wrote: »

Is Carrick out? Thats a massive loss to UTD if he is. He's prob the only player they cant replace

True. I can see Moyes starting with a midfield trio of Anderson, Cleverly and Kagawa with Rooney deployed on the wing and Valencia on the right. I really don't want to see Nani start, I think he is one of Utds best players and always seems to play well against us. I think we should start with both Arteta and Flamini to nullify any threat posed by Rooney or Kagawa, keep it tight in the first half and then really go for it in the second half. Delighted this is at Old Trafford as well.

kryogen

Gringo180 wrote: »

True. I can see Moyes starting with a midfield trio of Anderson, Cleverly and Kagawa with Rooney deployed on the wing and Valencia on the right. I really don't want to see Nani start, I think he is one of Utds best players and always seems to play well against us. I think we should start with both Arteta and Flamini to nullify any threat posed by Rooney or Kagawa, keep it tight in the first half and then really go for it in the second half. Delighted this is at Old Trafford as well.

So you haven't watched any of Moyes United teams then...............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................cool...........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

Gringo180

kryogen wrote: »

So you haven't watched any of Moyes United teams then...............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................cool...........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

Well he is going to have to try something different isn't he as performances haven't been anywhere near Man Utd standard lately.

Will I Amnt

Gringo180 wrote: »

Well he is going to have to try something different isn't he as performances haven't been anywhere near Man Utd standard lately.

Well he's not going to start a midfield you would prefer to come up against :pac:

Gringo180

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Well he's not going to start a midfield you would prefer to come up against :pac:

Thats not a midfield I would like to come up against, put Giggs and Fellaini in there instead of Anderson and Kagawa and ill be delighted.

cathalio11

Gringo180 wrote: »

Thats not a midfield I would like to come up against, put Giggs and Fellaini in there instead of Anderson and Kagawa and ill be delighted.

I'd be delighted with Anderson and Kagawa instead of Giggs and Fellaini.

Fellaini brings some sort of defensive stability. Always been a rock against Arsenal.

But with Anderson and Kagawa, we could get at least 2 goals.

Will I Amnt

Gringo180 wrote: »

Thats not a midfield I would like to come up against, put Giggs and Fellaini in there instead of Anderson and Kagawa and ill be delighted.

There isn't even the slightest chance of what you posted happening.

gosplan

In many ways this a reversal of the same fixture over the last few years.

One team flying high at the top of the league looking to keep the momentum going and deliver a huge blow to their opponent's title hopes.

The other recovering from losing a lot over the summer and under pressure to get a result that would really accelerate their season.

Gringo180

Will I Amnt wrote: »

There isn't even the slightest chance of what you posted happening.

Okay Nostradamus.

kryogen

Gringo180 wrote: »

Okay Nostradamus.

Hes right though, there is not a chance in hell what you posted will happen. None, zero, zilch.

As I said, it is pretty clear you have not watched United at all this season........

I would expect Jones and Fellaini in midfield with Valencia and Kagawa on either side, Rooney up top with RVP, hopefully dropping back to help out. Could see Clev instead of Jones perhaps, depends on Carrick really how the team will line out.

bad2dabone

I'd agree kryo, it'll be an interesting clash anyway. Obviously hoping for an arsenal win but United are capable of anything with Rooney and van persie. I won't be able to watch the game as I've family stuff on. :-(

The_Kew_Tour

My new Hero.;)

Awesomeness

Stolen from Arsenal thread

Bleating Lamb

So Utd fans....ya Arsenal fans feck off back to yere own thread:),what Team would ye like to see start game????.
.......Personally for some reason I think Utd will raise their game from the dross they produced midweek.
Heres my team to try and get back into league race in some way...ie actually go out and play attacking football.
De Gea
Smalling Vidic Evans Evra
Jones
Nani Cleverly Rooney
Kags
RVP
Rafael meant to be touch and go......I think we need to be able to pass it ala Arsenal so pointless been negative and starting Feillaini.

Rayne Wooney

"Which club would you like to play for most lads?"

Liam O

Moyes is too afraid to move Rooney in case he goes off in a huff again. Rooney still gets chances from out wide and his general play has been suspect at times this season. Still produces the moments of magic but I'd like to see a 4-3-3 tried sometime based on the Barca model with Carrick or Fellaini deep, Clev just ahead and kags at the head and then have RvP false 9 flanked by Rooney and Kags/Nani as wing forwards rather than traditional wingers with huge defensive responsibility which allows them to be pushed back too far.

Gringo180

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

"Which club would you like to play for most lads?"

Thats a fake by the way

Kylo Ren

All the Arsenal fans are coming out now after Ji Sung Park is sold. Typical.

"I'll see you there".

Oat23

It's nice to see the Arsenal fans so confident and happy. They've been frustrated and downbeat for too long

I think the last EPL game I got excited about watching was the Manchester derby two seasons ago that City won, Kompany scored a header IIRC. I think (hope) Arsenal will win tomorrow, but what do I know..

Hopefully it will be an entertaining game anyway.

Agueroooo

Today's ref Micheal Oliver.



is it normal for refs to have a couple of beers with the manager after a game?

Edit:this photo was taken at Fergusons last game

Oranage2

I think it's crazy to see, I know one or two referees train at arsenal. I don't think it should be allowed full stop.

Red Crow

Agueroooo wrote: »

Today's ref Micheal Oliver.



is it normal for refs to have a couple of beers with the manager after a game?

Edit:this photo was taken at Fergusons last game

Conspiracy theory forum is that way

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EuropeanSon

Agueroooo wrote: »

Today's ref Micheal Oliver.



is it normal for refs to have a couple of beers with the manager after a game?

Edit:this photo was taken at Fergusons last game

To be fair, if I was reffing Fergie's last game I'd want a photo too.

Agueroooo

Red Crow wrote: »

Conspiracy theory forum is that way

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No conspiracy needed.Its a photo that clearly shows match referees having a beer with a manager.
Former, retiring it doesn't matter as refs should always be seen as 100% independent.

Will I Amnt

:rolleyes:
He's not even managing anymore and they're still at it...

Agueroooo

Will I Amnt wrote: »

:rolleyes:
He's not even managing anymore and they're still at it...

Nope.

The point is not about Ferguson but the refs and particularly Micheal Oliver who refs todays game.

he is being scrutinised for socialising/posing in that photo and rightly so.