Manchester United vs Arsenal Match Thread 10/11/13 K/O 16.00 Sky.

greendom

Poor judgement - should know better

klose

Id say united will win, any result will suit me though

Maximus Alexander

United will put 8 past Arsenal today, easily.



8 crosses that go clear over the box and out for a throw on the other side.

Dave0301

FFS

It was Alex Ferguson's last game!

Find me another picture last that of the same ref from just a normal standard weekly game, and your argument might have some credence.

Red Crow

Agueroooo wrote: »

No conspiracy needed.Its a photo that clearly shows match referees having a beer with a manager.
Former, retiring it doesn't matter as refs should always be seen as 100% independent.

And a photo compromises that independence? Jesus Christ some people will look to the depths to find rubbish.

This is a non story and anyone who thinks Michael Oliver is wrong for taking a photo with the greatest manager of all time in his last game needs to check themselves in somewhere.

Mr.Crinklewood

Blessed be the obsessives, may their obsession distract from their own teams inadequacies.

EuropeanSon

Red Crow wrote: »

And a photo compromises that independence? Jesus Christ some people will look to the depths to find rubbish.

This is a non story and anyone who thinks Michael Oliver is wrong for taking a photo with the greatest manager of all time in his last game needs to check themselves in somewhere.

Agree totally with this.

I would, however, be slightly more concerned about this, but I don't really know how reliable that report is. From just looking at the methodology, it seems pretty solid, but the author of the article IS an Arsenal fan.

niallo27

EuropeanSon wrote: »

Agree totally with this.

I would, however, be slightly more concerned about this, but I don't really know how reliable that report is. From just looking at the methodology, it seems pretty solid, but the author of the article IS an Arsenal fan.

Did he get all 7 sending off desicions wrong or am i reading that wrong.

Pepe LeFrits

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

"Which club would you like to play for most lads?"

hahah played RW.

Will I Amnt

EuropeanSon wrote: »

Agree totally with this.

I would, however, be slightly more concerned about this, but I don't really know how reliable that report is. From just looking at the methodology, it seems pretty solid, but the author of the article IS an Arsenal fan.

It's absolute, pointless bollox. Chris Foy is there too, sure he's not the ref today, no need to mention him.

bad2dabone

Didn't get much sleep last night with anxiety.

Luckily spurs match is on now so I'll be guaranteed 90mins of sleep anyway

Rayne Wooney

I think United will only get 3 penos today because Fergie's death stare won't be as effective up in the stand.

CatInABox

niallo27 wrote: »

Did he get all 7 sending off desicions wrong or am i reading that wrong.

You're reading it right, but it includes those he wrongly sent off, and those he wrongly didn't send off.

According to their analysis of last season, he was the second worst referee, and did not favour any of the "top" teams except Man United.

It's an interesting read from a website I didn't know existed, but how much you can read into it I'm not sure.

EuropeanSon

niallo27 wrote: »

Did he get all 7 sending off desicions wrong or am i reading that wrong.

You're getting that right. It includes failing to send people off, and sending people off incorrectly.

Will I Amnt

As a United fan, I hate the f**king sight of Michael Oliver. He's a card-happy, attention seeker. He's shìte for everyone IMO.

EuropeanSon

Will I Amnt wrote: »

It's absolute, pointless bollox. Chris Foy is there too, sure he's not the ref today, no need to mention him.

The picture, or the ref review website?

If it's the latter, I understand maybe doubting it's reliability, but I couldn't see why you'd call it pointless bollix, it's important that someone reviews referee performances IMO.

Will I Amnt

EuropeanSon wrote: »

The picture, or the ref review website?

If it's the latter, I understand maybe doubting it's reliability, but I couldn't see why you'd call it pointless bollix, it's important that someone reviews referee performances IMO.

The picture. Didn't notice your link until after I posted and I was too lazy to correct it.

The_Kew_Tour

Well done lads.

Anothr match thread gone down swanny.

I almost forgot why I avoid these mostly.

Mickeroo

Ugh, I don't know how to call it today. First time in a long time we've gone to OT and I feel like we can win but at the same time I don't want to get my hopes up because it's them. United have been so poor this season but they'll want to prove the doubters wrong today. Hopefully it's a good match and not a cagey affair.

Unearthly

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Well done lads.

Anothr match thread gone down swanny.

I almost forgot why I avoid these mostly.

All it needs now is a Chelsea fan to state he can see united getting a soft peno

Will I Amnt

Best buds.

gandalf

Unearthly wrote: »

All it needs now is a Chelsea fan to state he can see united getting a soft peno

LOL The iconic Alanis Morissette moment

Alfred Borden

Dont like twitter rumours but rumblings that Per and Rosicky out today, would be a massive lose, gutted if true.

niallo27

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Best buds.

He looks ****en terrified of him. What does that tell you.

Panthro

Unearthly wrote: »

All it needs now is a Chelsea fan to state he can see united getting a soft peno

I can see United getting a soft pen.....ohhhh.....sorryyyy.....:o
:pac::pac:

Richard Hillman

Oranage2 wrote: »

I think it's crazy to see, I know one or two referees train at arsenal. I don't think it should be allowed full stop.

They are not allowed to ref Arsenal games. One of the refs trains at Everton and another at Bolton that I know of, they are not allowed to do their games.

Will I Amnt

niallo27 wrote: »

He looks ****en terrified of him. What does that tell you.

Funny the spin you can put on something to suit an agenda.

Take Fergie out and tell me that's the face of a terrified man. He's doing his best to ignore him. Not easy when there's someone screaming in your face.

niallo27

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Funny the spin you can put on something to suit an agenda.

Take Fergie out and tell me that's the face of a terrified man. He's doing his best to ignore him. Not easy when there's someone screaming in your face.

I wasnt trying to put any spin on it, i was just saying he does look quiet frightened in the picture. I dont blame him ferguson was a powerful man.

gosplan

niallo27 wrote: »

I wasnt trying to put any spin on it, i was just saying he does look quiet frightened in the picture. I dont blame him ferguson was a powerful man.

Nah surely any ref is pretty much immune to being shouted at.

I mean it would happen every single game.

YouTookMyName

I don't think there's another club quite like Arsenal. They get to the top of the league and they're suddenly the greatest ever again, you'd think, if anyone had some cop on, that they might just look at the lack of trophies in the last 8 and calm the fúck down.

That said i hope they beat the mancs today and open you a gap between the top 7 and the rest.

shano_88

Haven't seen it anywhere else but here but If Per is out, he will be a massive loss.

Alfred Borden

YouTookMyName wrote: »

I don't think there's another club quite like Arsenal. They get to the top of the league and they're suddenly the greatest ever again, you'd think, if anyone had some cop on, that they might just look at the lack of trophies in the last 8 and calm the fúck down.

That said i hope they beat the mancs today and open you a gap between the top 7 and the rest.

No Arsenal fan thinks that

cathalio11

YouTookMyName wrote: »

I don't think there's another club quite like Arsenal. They get to the top of the league and they're suddenly the greatest ever again, you'd think, if anyone had some cop on, that they might just look at the lack of trophies in the last 8 and calm the fúck down.
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Have Arsenal fans not a right to feel confident and thrilled about their start to the season?

Also, I haven't seen any Arsenal fan who is not a bit hesitant about the next few weeks. Most have some sense of worry.

.jacksparrow.

YouTookMyName wrote: »

I don't think there's another club quite like Arsenal. They get to the top of the league and they're suddenly the greatest ever again, you'd think, if anyone had some cop on, that they might just look at the lack of trophies in the last 8 and calm the fúck down.

That said i hope they beat the mancs today and open you a gap between the top 7 and the rest.

The greatest ever again....

cathalio11

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Best buds.

Looks like David Platt having a go at Gail Platt.

Red Crow

niallo27 wrote: »

He looks ****en terrified of him. What does that tell you.

It tells you that Fergie is going to put him in his place after the game and let Michael Oliver know that every decision has to go United's way. We all know that Fergie controlled the referees. Wasn't he just great to have such a huge influence that grown men would sh1t themselves to make a decision against him. I'm sure Michael Oliver went home that night, locked his bedroom door and checked to make sure Fergie wasn't hiding under his bed to get him.

You've uncovered it all now Niallo. Didn't that Fergie fella have something to do with 9/11 as well? What a scourge!

Aidric

cathalio11 wrote: »

Have Arsenal fans not a right to feel confident and thrilled about their start to the season?

The same Arsenal fans who were having a meltdown after the first game of the season?

Rayne Wooney

Look at Fergie shouting at the official, I'm outraged, Brendan Rodgers or Wenger wouldn't do that, no sir they wouldn't, it's just Fergie that evil villain with control over the FA, shameful stuff.

:rolleyes:


Maybe now would be a good time to consider a separate "Soccer Conspiracy Forum". Some of the posts on here would fit in there.


Edit: and ironically most post are coming from certain supporters who's team isn't even playing in this game

Mickeroo

Aidric wrote: »

The same Arsenal fans who were having a meltdown after the first game of the season?

yeah probably, your point?

Barr

Excited to watch this game later -I fancy Arsenal to win today

cathalio11

cathalio11 wrote: »

Have Arsenal fans not a right to feel confident and thrilled about their start to the season?

Aidric wrote: »

The same Arsenal fans who were having a meltdown after the first game of the season?

Yes, I guess but I don't understand why you'd want to post a provocative response like that.

When clubs do great, the fans will be delighted. When they do poor, they will be sad or angry.

The fact Arsenal fans were disappointed in the past doesn't mean that they should pipe down and shut up when they're doing good. It's how things go and I'm pretty sure you understand that.

.jacksparrow.

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Look at Fergie shouting at the official, I'm outraged, Brendan Rodgers or Wenger wouldn't do that, no sir they wouldn't, it's just Fergie that evil villain with control over the FA, shameful stuff.

:rolleyes:


Maybe now would be a good time to consider a separate "Soccer Conspiracy Forum". Some of the posts on here would fit in there.

Ah mate calm down, the game hasn't even started!

Let's try enjoy it..

The_Kew_Tour

In fairness its not the arsenal fans ruining thread yet again.

Most of them can have good debate and banter.

It was going ok till this morning.

Anyway hopefully its good game like the great games of before.

bad2dabone

Thinking arsenal are the greatest is probably a common trait among arsenal fans. In fact I believe the arsenal fans even sing a song to that effect.

.jacksparrow.

bad2dabone wrote: »

Thinking arsenal are the greatest is probably a common trait among arsenal fans. In fact I believe the arsenal fans even sing a song to that effect.

Imagine that.


Fans thinking their team is the best...

The shock!

Mickeroo

What's this I'm hearing about RVP being injured? Anyone on the united end of things hear anything?

Rayne Wooney

Boyle Sports and other sources saying RVP could be out with a groin strain.

Wouldn't read anything into it yet, it seems to be a recurring thing to say he's out just before every game.


Maybe we'll see Rooney up top with Kagawa behind if he is though.

Awesomeness

RVP would be a massive . So would teh BFG. If one is out and not the other it swings the odds big time in that teams favour

Red Crow

Mickeroo wrote: »

What's this I'm hearing about RVP being injured? Anyone on the united end of things hear anything?

Sounds like a load of bollocks at the minute. It's from a WUM tweet. Although you never know. There was a rumour that he was struggling with his groin but that was before the game midweek and he came on and played half an hour and looked fine.

Pepe LeFrits

Dunno, Rooney is a pretty top class option to play at point anyway.

Vermaelen coming in for the BFG is more unsettling. He's played well when he's been involved so far this season, but his partnership with Koscielny has rarely looked assured and this isn't exactly the ideal game to start working on it again.