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Battlefield 4 [aaaarrrghhh bitching and moaning]
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@10m, their torso won't occupy the entire aiming circle of the shotgun from hipfire; and the way the game works, you could cover all their torso at that range with the circle, but they might only get one or two pellet hits (the other pellets could group in the part of the circle their torso isn't covering...)
But @3m, I've seen people take 2-3 870 rounds to kill when they're HPBs alright
You wind up having to change server a lot or stick to ones with low maximum ping limits. 0 -
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edit: disregard that unhappy face, didn't purposely add it and can't remove it
Playing a lot of this lately, which is a compliment as I play alone.
I must have played about 5/6 hours straight yesterday, usually it was just in a rotation with FIFA/NBA.
Now NBA has moved on and FIFA won't be played again and will probably join NBA in CEX.
A few things are bugging me though.
I play HC, and if you take the Artillery truck on Zazod somebody will switch team/get a friend/just be a dick and C4 me in the base.
The map just isn't safe enough to keep it outside the spawn and having it on your team means ye can cover over 50% of the caps easily, helping to win the round.
I'm not reckless with it either, I generally just fire it at areas where I have no team mates and would say my TK's are low if any while using it.
Nearly any time I have it though, and especially on that map, somebody TK's and it's frustrating there's such a lack of punishment for doing so.
Snipers as well are a massive pain, I know if I played Normal it would take two shots to die and I can accept a long range sniper rifle kill but I've died countless times at short/medium to short range by sniper rifles when they shouldn't be able to scope you.
They should maybe look into making the sniper less run and gun, I'll struggle with my LMG in CQC against other classes so Snipers should be no exception.
HC could be so much better if they just added some of the features from Normal.
The mini map need not be taken away, surely it can just show me my team mates.
Same for checking your ammo, also in relation to seeking ammo/repairs, the fact there's no map means you can't see if somebodies going to repair you or looking for ammo.
I think it takes away from the team aspect a bit more and just over complicates things.
HC would be great if it was Normal mode minus the 3d spotting, 2d map spotting and increased damage.
Love the game, would be even better with some slight changes to HC. Same issues have been present since BC so chances of change are slim I guess.
I guess my TK'ing issue could be moot as well on PC with server bans in place.PhlegmyMoses wrote: »Just got a PS4 at the weekend and would have bought BF4 immediately but I'm hesitant due to all the issues it has. Is it really as grim as it sounds on PS4? Played around 600 hours of BF3 so was looking forward to it but don't want to spend 50 quid plus premium on disconnecting games and ****ty servers.
Figured this would be the best place to ask rather than start a new thread.
It works grand for me on Xbox1.
If I join a server with less than full bars(I suppose the 4/5 or whatever 1 down of full is works fine as well) then I'll have lag issues.
But on a good connection server I can't say I've picked up on anything that wasn't there in previous Battlefields.
I'm not sure I'd even pick up on hit detection issues, I generally just put down my deaths in CQC to bad aiming though maybe viewing a recording would show different.
At any rate, I'm not noticing any issues, maybe by and large they're on PS and PC
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gilberto_eire wrote: »edit: disregard that unhappy face, didn't purposely add it and can't remove it
Playing a lot of this lately, which is a compliment as I play alone.
I must have played about 5/6 hours straight yesterday, usually it was just in a rotation with FIFA/NBA.
Now NBA has moved on and FIFA won't be played again and will probably join NBA in CEX.
A few things are bugging me though.
I play HC, and if you take the Artillery truck on Zazod somebody will switch team/get a friend/just be a dick and C4 me in the base.
The map just isn't safe enough to keep it outside the spawn and having it on your team means ye can cover over 50% of the caps easily, helping to win the round.
I'm not reckless with it either, I generally just fire it at areas where I have no team mates and would say my TK's are low if any while using it.
Nearly any time I have it though, and especially on that map, somebody TK's and it's frustrating there's such a lack of punishment for doing so.
Snipers as well are a massive pain, I know if I played Normal it would take two shots to die and I can accept a long range sniper rifle kill but I've died countless times at short/medium to short range by sniper rifles when they shouldn't be able to scope you.
They should maybe look into making the sniper less run and gun, I'll struggle with my LMG in CQC against other classes so Snipers should be no exception.
HC could be so much better if they just added some of the features from Normal.
The mini map need not be taken away, surely it can just show me my team mates.
Same for checking your ammo, also in relation to seeking ammo/repairs, the fact there's no map means you can't see if somebodies going to repair you or looking for ammo.
I think it takes away from the team aspect a bit more and just over complicates things.
HC would be great if it was Normal mode minus the 3d spotting, 2d map spotting and increased damage.
Love the game, would be even better with some slight changes to HC. Same issues have been present since BC so chances of change are slim I guess.
I guess my TK'ing issue could be moot as well on PC with server bans in place.
It works grand for me on Xbox1.
If I join a server with less than full bars(I suppose the 4/5 or whatever 1 down of full is works fine as well) then I'll have lag issues.
But on a good connection server I can't say I've picked up on anything that wasn't there in previous Battlefields.
I'm not sure I'd even pick up on hit detection issues, I generally just put down my deaths in CQC to bad aiming though maybe viewing a recording would show different.
At any rate, I'm not noticing any issues, maybe by and large they're on PS and PC
So you're spamming the arty from spawn and are surprised people get pissed off?0 -
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gilberto_eire wrote: »I play HC, and if you take the Artillery truck on Zazod somebody will switch team/get a friend/just be a dick and C4 me in the base.
The map just isn't safe enough to keep it outside the spawn and having it on your team means ye can cover over 50% of the caps easily, helping to win the round.
I'm not reckless with it either, I generally just fire it at areas where I have no team mates and would say my TK's are low if any while using it.
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MajesticDonkey wrote: »In real combat, two "teams" don't start fighting each other from bases about a mile apart.
Battlefield is an FPS game, which essentially means it's a run and gun shooter. If you want realism, go play Arma or another simulator. Hardcore mode is really only there for people that have difficulty aiming. What you're suggesting is promoting camping, which is ideal for a simulation game, but only enrages team mates in an FPS, and is essentially the bones of HC mode.
You're getting far too technical there.
Also you're not really disagreeing with me either.
I'd prefer a few more visual aids in HC to make playing with strangers more user friendly.
I hate the 2d/3d spotting and kill cam position give away(I don't play as a sniper but if you're at a cap and they can respawn in time they know where you are) which is why I won't play Normal mode, but at least in normal if someone requests a ride etc you can see them on the minimap to wait.
What's promoting camping?, sorry I don't get that comment as what you replied to spoke specifically about the mini map and team work.
You're saying if ye could communicate team wide easier it would promote camping?.
P.S I know what Arma is, and I'd love to play it but I have a RSI in my right arm which means I can't play with a mouse anymore hence why Im back playing FPS on consoles again.
And anyway, that's a bit silly.... ''Don't like it?, spend E500+ on a gaming PC to play Arma''.... you shouldn't have to play another game because you don't like one or two aspects of a particular game, one that could be improved with some changes to the set up.0 -
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gilberto_eire wrote: »It's on the other team to get it by fair means(aircraft, C4 run).
It is a cheap ass tactic thought and alot of people dont find it easy to get it in the spawn to kill it. even though it's ridiculously simple.
Personally favorite chopper / c4 or slams followed by a quick flame message to my victim:D:D:D:D:D
or the occasional even more fun method
Run up to the art truck while firing your gun, the driver gets out and you sit in the truck then while the counter goes 3,2,1 booooom killed in action
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